Deep free agent RB class

[conner01]

To stay on the roster I would think he would need to take an absolutely massive pay cut. He looked completely done at the end of last season. I'm sure by camp he'll be "in the best shape of his life" and "got his burst back" and then look the same on the field so I'd prefer he just go somewhere else.

I don’t think there is a pay cut I’d keep him at that he would accept. If you cut his base to the vet min and he’d go for that then maybe. But honestly I see pollard gone next year so I’d just draft a guy to go with pollard this year and get him started developing

 

[Hawkeye0202]

But honestly I see pollard gone next year so I’d just draft a guy to go with pollard this year and get him started developing

I agree but don't be surprised if they agree on a short-term deal 3-year with 2 years of G-money. Hell, maybe just add another $10M. It's my understanding that most coaches and GMs think you need TWO starting Rbs now to get through a season. But yea I'd def draft a running mate

 

[GoldenR]

Do you want him to stay?

Every single ounce of evidence points to the Cowboys having a golden opportunity to rid themselves of the hapless and overpriced Zeke.

The fact that they are paying Pollard 10 million to stay only underlines that.

Can you imagine having Pollard and someone like Zach Charbonnet or Tank Bigsby as a RB stable? And then on top of that not having the waste a play handing the ball off to Zeke?

One of your better posts! Now, if we could only get rid of another hapless, overpriced player. You know who.

 

[vlad]

Do you want him to stay?

Every single ounce of evidence points to the Cowboys having a golden opportunity to rid themselves of the hapless and overpriced Zeke.

The fact that they are paying Pollard 10 million to stay only underlines that.

Can you imagine having Pollard and someone like Zach Charbonnet or Tank Bigsby as a RB stable? And then on top of that not having the waste a play handing the ball off to Zeke?

You sir clearly don’t understand the concept of softening them up. All you have to do is have the line block the same for zeke as they do for pollard. I grow tired of having to educate silly fans like yourself that care more about team success than an individual player.

Maybe go to football 101

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

This and a deep draft class could mean Zeke's best bet is to take whatever pay cut Stephen offers and stay.

Which one of these guys will agree to play the lone offensive lineman on the last play of the game/season?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

You sir clearly don’t understand the concept of softening them up. All you have to do is have the line block the same for zeke as they do for pollard. I grow tired of having to educate silly fans like yourself that care more about team success than an individual player.

Maybe go to football 101

You haven't given up yet? Very admirable sir!

 

[NFCBeasts]

Not a one of those RB's are better than Pollard or Zeke. At least how to help Dallas. Sanders possibly, but was he just used correctly?
He was in a mix of a few other RB's including Hurts.

Montgomery may be interesting though. Hunt for speed, but how much can he really help?

Sanders had one of the best lines with a duel threat qb… I am curious to see what he does next year on a new team

 

[ThatJerryKid]

This and a deep draft class could mean Zeke's best bet is to take whatever pay cut Stephen offers and stay.

I’m interested in everybody’s opinion. If Zeke and all the backs on that list cost the exact same amount of money, which RBs would you take Zeke over?

 

[offlimits]

This and a deep draft class could mean Zeke's best bet is to take whatever pay cut Stephen offers and stay.

Why keep Zeke? Free up a roster spot! Also, this draft is deep with QB's that have potential. I want them to draft one no later than the 3rd round. As we get closer to April, I will mention my 3 favorites that are not in the 1st round.

 

[Jake]

This and a deep draft class could mean Zeke's best bet is to take whatever pay cut Stephen offers and stay.

I'm really out of the FA running back market, and that includes the one the Cowboys tagged.

It's a passing league where running is just something done for balance. Running backs come in every draft, and if you have a good offensive line - that's where you invest - they can be effective. I'm not giving any RB a second contract. Get 4-5 years out of them and move on.

But, of course, Uncle Jerry is stuck in the Emmitt era. He tagged Pollard, and wants to keep Zeke. Another example of why we can't have nice things in the 2000s.

 

[J12B]

Tbh, id rather look towards the draft.

I want us to draft 2 running backs this draft.

 

[CowboysRule]

I don’t think there is a pay cut I’d keep him at that he would accept. If you cut his base to the vet min and he’d go for that then maybe. But honestly I see pollard gone next year so I’d just draft a guy to go with pollard this year and get him started developing

I agree with you, I'd rather just see him gone. Even if he stays we definitely need to draft a RB, maybe two.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Draft a running back!

If it's a good class take 2.
We need to be looking toward 24.

 

[buybuydandavis]

I want us to draft 2 running backs this draft.

Now we are two.

 

[DandyDon52]

And yet we used the franchise tag on Pollard.

yeah it isnt smart, I guess he turned down the low ball offer. Good to see him get some decent $ after being wasted for 4 years.
As usual there is no telling what jones boys will do lol. I know they want elliot back if he takes the paycut THEY want.
If they do that, they might not draft a RB at all.

 

[Mr_437]

Miles Sanders (4.9)
David Montgomery (4.0)
Jeff Wilson (4.9)
Devin Singletary (4.6)
Damien Harris (4.4)
Kareem Hunt (3.8)
Jamaal Williams (4.1)
Raheem Mosert (4.9)
Rashaad Penny (6.1)
Jerick McKinnon (4.2)
Alexander Mattison (3.8)
D'Onta Foreman (4.5)
Samaje Perine (4.1)
Marlon Mack (5.2)

This is yards per carry for UFA RBs.
Zeke's ypc was (3.8).

 

[Beast_from_East]

Do you want him to stay?

Every single ounce of evidence points to the Cowboys having a golden opportunity to rid themselves of the hapless and overpriced Zeke.

The fact that they are paying Pollard 10 million to stay only underlines that.

Can you imagine having Pollard and someone like Zach Charbonnet or Tank Bigsby as a RB stable? And then on top of that not having the waste a play handing the ball off to Zeke?

Cowboys dont have a "golden opportunity" to rid themselves of Zeke, there is still $11 million owed to the cap on his contract.

You cut Zeke before June 1, you eat all $11 mill on this year's cap. You do post June 1 release, you eat $5.5 this year and $5.5 next year.

That is why they are talking about Zeke taking a pay cut down to a 2 yr, $11 million deal. That is the exact same amount in dead money if you do a post June 1 release for Zeke. See, you are paying that $11 million regardless of if Zeke is on the team or not, so its not a golden opportunity to get rid of Zeke, it just depends if you want to pay that and have Zeke basically for "free" or would you rather pay that and have Zeke sit home on his couch?

Personally, I am not a fan of paying a guy $11 million to sit home, I would at least like to get something for my money and Zeke can at least be a good short yardage back.

 

[T-RO]

If it's a good class take 2.
We need to be looking toward 24.

With 3 picks in round 5 I might be fine w/that.

 

[T-RO]

Cowboys dont have a "golden opportunity" to rid themselves of Zeke, there is still $11 million owed to the cap on his contract.

You cut Zeke before June 1, you eat all $11 mill on this year's cap. You do post June 1 release, you eat $5.5 this year and $5.5 next year.

That is why they are talking about Zeke taking a pay cut down to a 2 yr, $11 million deal. That is the exact same amount in dead money if you do a post June 1 release for Zeke. See, you are paying that $11 million regardless of if Zeke is on the team or not, so its not a golden opportunity to get rid of Zeke, it just depends if you want to pay that and have Zeke basically for "free" or would you rather pay that and have Zeke sit home on his couch?

Personally, I am not a fan of paying a guy $11 million to sit home, I would at least like to get something for my money and Zeke can at least be a good short yardage back.

Not how it works.

The $11 million is a sunk cost...and what you are saying sounds very much like textbook "Sunk cost fallacy" thinking. Zeke gets that money no matter what, sooner or later. Nothing changes that.

In addition to that amt....stacked on top of that...Zeke is currently scheduled to make $10.9 mil to play games in 2023, if Cowboys don't release or renegotiate.

Some people say, negotiate it down to $5 mil or $3 mil, which they probably can do as no one else would pay that much at this point for his services. I say, a number of us say: we're out on him entirely.

Whether its business, sports, whatever...Logicians advise: Avoid sunk-cost fallacy. Take sunk cost out it. That should have nothing to do with your decision-making. It's water under the bridge. What is Zeke's current worth is *only* question.

 

[Beast_from_East]

What is Zeke's current worth is *only* question.

His "worth" in 2023 is absolutely what is in question my friend.

Which is the better value to the Cowboys in 2023, having Zeke take a pay cut down to dead money neutral level or releasing him entirely?

The fact that Zeke has not been released already shows that the Cowboys do not believe Zeke is worth nothing as most in this thread think. The team obviously believes there is a certain level of pay at which having Zeke on the team is more valuable than out right releasing him or else he would already be gone.

So this is not a "sunk cost" discussion, this is a discussion about at what level of pay is having Zeke on the team more valuable than not having Zeke on the team.