Defense.. we have a problem

31smackdown

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There has been a re-occuring situation in a lot of these games which has continuously extended drives and resulted in big plays for the opposing teams. The situation is that it is being almost systematic that Dallas tries to play tight man coverage because they feel they have a strength there, only to have pick/rub play after pick/rub run against them as soon as the offense sees it. There has to be an adjustment made because it is absolutely killing this team in tight situations. They play good defense only to be out schemed and put in bad positions as players. Either switching or zone or just different spacing, something needs to be adjusted to avoid this from continually giving away first downs when it matters most.
 

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13 points in back to back games. Yeah we have a real problem defensively. I thought they've defended the pick plays better the last couple of games. The bigger issue for me is safety play. Barry Church and Jeff Heath are not NFL caliber safeties. McClain looks done too. Put on way too much weight.

Still with all these issues the defense overall has been very, very good.
 

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In my opinion, this team has always had issues getting all three phases to play well at the same time. One week the defense looks dominant and the offense looks feeble. The next game, the offenses laces a team with 42 pts but gives up 43.

It is a rare day indeed where we somehow manage to hold a team down AND stomp them offensively.

Defense looks great now, but I would not be surprised if the script ended up flipping after Romo returns.
 

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13 points in back to back games. Yeah we have a real problem defensively. I thought they've defended the pick plays better the last couple of games. The bigger issue for me is safety play. Barry Church and Jeff Heath are not NFL caliber safeties. McClain looks done too. Put on way too much weight.

Still with all these issues the defense overall has been very, very good.

McClain hasn't looked his aggressive self. Neither has Lee for that matter.
 

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13 points in back to back games. Yeah we have a real problem defensively. I thought they've defended the pick plays better the last couple of games. The bigger issue for me is safety play. Barry Church and Jeff Heath are not NFL caliber safeties. McClain looks done too. Put on way too much weight.

Still with all these issues the defense overall has been very, very good.

The OPI penalty on D.Street vs NYG and the illegal formation penalty on L.Whitehead vs SEA. Two plays where Dallas' WRs really hurt the offense.

The first took 7pts off the board & they settled for a FG try. The 2nd would have had the ball 1st and goal at the 4. Maybe they still settle for a FG, maybe they score. The penalty didn't allow for the opportunity tfind out.

You can definitely look at these small penalties ultimately having a HUGE impact on the offense.

These mistakes aren't made, maybe Dallas has 2 more wins, they're 4-3 and leading the division...what a difference that would make

But the Defense has given up 2 offensive TDs in the last 2 games. That should be good enough to win a game.

They're not flashy, they're not picking up a ton of turnovers like up in Denver, but they have been effective enough the last few weeks (and improving)
 

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There has been a re-occuring situation in a lot of these games which has continuously extended drives and resulted in big plays for the opposing teams. The situation is that it is being almost systematic that Dallas tries to play tight man coverage because they feel they have a strength there, only to have pick/rub play after pick/rub run against them as soon as the offense sees it. There has to be an adjustment made because it is absolutely killing this team in tight situations. They play good defense only to be out schemed and put in bad positions as players. Either switching or zone or just different spacing, something needs to be adjusted to avoid this from continually giving away first downs when it matters most.

It's hard to complain much about the defense in a 13-12 game; however, they did give up a least two 3rd down conversions in a late critical drive due to pick plays.

The primary issue appears to be that Claiborne has limitations. They tried in years past to have him and Scandrick switch off on WRs that crossed each other for the purpose of a pick play; however, Claiborne almost always did it incorrectly and they both ended up covering 1 WR while the other one was not covered at all. Claiborne has also struggled with get general zone coverage because it required more mental ability.

They tried having Claiborne stick tightly to his WR to make it difficult to pick him but then they just picked Jones who was playing the slot for the 1st time this year (I think White had a knee injury).

A couple of weeks ago they tried having White and the LBs play Zone with Claiborne appearing to still be in man coverage. That ended up with a big play because White dropped off the WR to cover the RB and the LBs did not do a good job in coverage.

I don't know if they can ever resolve the problem with Claiborne as one of the CBs.
 

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When they have so little margin for error it just becomes frustrating for them to play so well and then have these things beat them. Here is an excerpt from a Seattle article talking about their final drive, they finally switch to zone and can't make the tackle..:

• Third-and-six slant route to Graham for 8 yards: When teams play man-to-man with a single deep safety, they usually rush five defenders — or four, when using a shallow “lurk” safety near the line. Dallas rushed just three, which is very rare for man-to-man coverage. That left the Cowboys with essentially two lurk defenders, as linebacker Rolando McClain was “spying” Wilson to deter a quarterback scramble. Credit Seattle’s scheme, with Graham aligned to Wilson’s far left and Lockett inside of Graham. That created a legal pick and forced Church, the man covering Graham, to fight over the top of Lockett.

• Third-and-three arrow route to Lockett for 9 yards:When Byron Jones followed Doug Baldwin in motion, Wilson was assured that Dallas was in man-to-man coverage. The Cowboys gambled with this type of man coverage: press coverage, with both cornerbacks to Wilson’s left jamming Jermaine Kearse (the widest receiver) and Lockett (the slot receiver inside) at the line of scrimmage. Such a technique disrupts the timing and minimizes the separation of the quick passing game, but, when both defenders are at the line, the coverage is susceptible to picks and rubs. Again, credit the play call. Anticipating man coverage, Kearse now picked for Lockett on Lockett’s arrow route to the flat.

• Switch comeback to Baldwin for 15 yards: From the Cowboys’ 46 with Seattle anticipating man coverage, the Seahawks employed a pick play of a different sort: a “switch” release, which resembled a switch on a train track. Baldwin, from his slot alignment, crisscrosses with Lockett. The effect against man coverage is similar to the picks employed at the line of scrimmage, except the switch release — made popular by the old run-and-shoot offense — creates the pick about 15 yards downfield. The ample separation by Baldwin was the result.

• Zone-read keep for 8 yards: At the Dallas 28, the Cowboys’ adjustment to motion again indicated man coverage (the zone in zone-read refers to the offensive-line blocking scheme, not the coverage of the defense). Though this was a designed run all the way, the Cowboys’ man coverage was key. When Demarcus Lawrence, the defensive end to Wilson’s right, collapsed inside, that gave Wilson a read to keep the ball in the alley, just outside right tackle. With Baldwin aligned in the adjacent slot, Jones was aligned over Baldwin in a position to deter a Wilson keep. Against zone coverage, Baldwin might not have had the leverage to block Jones if Jones was aligned slightly inside of him. Against this man coverage, however, Jones followed Baldwin out of Wilson’s running lane on an out-breaking bubble route.

• Third-and-seven scramble for 10 yards: With 3:01 remaining from the Dallas 17, the clock now was the principle factor and a field-goal attempt was nearly a foregone conclusion. If Dallas stopped Seattle on this play, the Cowboys’ offense would have at least 2:45 after the ensuing kickoff to drive for a potential game-winning field goal. The Cowboys now abandoned the man coverage they had played predominantly on the drive and played a three-deep zone. The Seahawks’ primary receiver was Graham on an outbreaking corner route, but from this formation it was difficult for Graham to gain outside leverage against a cover-three defense. Dallas again rushed just three, with McClain spying Wilson, but the quarterback’s elusiveness rendered that tactic useless and McClain was left in Wilson’s roostertail. Evading a slow linebacker was expected, but defensive backs Church and Jones took bad angles, underestimating Wilson’s speed as Wilson again showed why he’s the NFL’s most dangerous quarterback while on the move.

Full link: http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/...ttles-final-drive-against-the-dallas-cowboys/
 

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When it's crunch time this defense doesn't make a play, that's what's so annoying.
You watch the games knowing that even if we have the lead the defense won't stop the other team from a game winning drive.
 

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I thought Leewas very aggressive vs Seattle. He shot through gaps, threw his body around, and made some hits behind the line of scrimmage, but a couple times he couldn't bring the Beast down.
 

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Why are ppl going out of their way to find new problems? Defense is fine... held the defending nfc Champs (should be SB champs) to 13 points
 

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In my opinion, this team has always had issues getting all three phases to play well at the same time. One week the defense looks dominant and the offense looks feeble. The next game, the offenses laces a team with 42 pts but gives up 43.

It is a rare day indeed where we somehow manage to hold a team down AND stomp them offensively.

Defense looks great now, but I would not be surprised if the script ended up flipping after Romo returns.

Looked pretty good last season. I think it's much more likely that the defense looks better when Romo returns because they can go back to last year's strategy with a more talented bunch on that side of the ball.
 

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When it's crunch time this defense doesn't make a play, that's what's so annoying.
You watch the games knowing that even if we have the lead the defense won't stop the other team from a game winning drive.

Agree, and I mentioned this in another thread but told I was ignorant for pointing that out.
This has been a problem for years. They can never hold a lead, or not nearly as often as they should. Nor create a turnover when needed to get the ball back for our offense to score.

But what the heck do I know, as I was told in another thread.....
 

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Agree, and I mentioned this in another thread but told I was ignorant for pointing that out.
This has been a problem for years. They can never hold a lead, or not nearly as often as they should. Nor create a turnover when needed to get the ball back for our offense to score.

But what the heck do I know, as I was told in another thread.....

Well, the '85 Bears and '00 Ravens we're not.
 

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Defense has not been the problem:
Give up 10 points to the defending champions in the first half, but the offense has 6 3 and outs.
Give up 13 points to the defending NFC champion. The offense can't score a TD.
Give up 13 points to the Giants. Offense and special teams both give up TDs. Maybe against the Saints in OT and the Cardinals (28 should be enough to win). They're just PART of it. All 3 units have broken down at times.
 

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Defense has not been the problem:
Give up 10 points to the defending champions in the first half, but the offense has 6 3 and outs.
Give up 13 points to the defending NFC champion. The offense can't score a TD.
Give up 13 points to the Giants. Offense and special teams both give up TDs. Maybe against the Saints in OT and the Cardinals (28 should be enough to win). They're just PART of it. All 3 units have broken down at times.

I wonder what's wrong with the offense?
 
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