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Defensive Front, Not Back Up Passer, Is The Biggest Need In Dallas

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016...-back-up-passer-is-the-biggest-need-in-dallas




The Denver Broncos did something this season that the Dallas Cowboys could not accomplish; they won with a backup quarterback at the helm. Once Peyton Manning, whose own performance this year was more of a journeyman effort than that of a first-round Hall of Fame quarterback, went down with health issues the Broncos continued to win behind Brock Osweiler. Dallas took the opposite direction once Tony Romo was lost to injury. The Cowboys behind Brandon Weeden, Matt Cassel, and Kellen Moore won one game as starters. Denver won the Super Bowl while the Cowboys are picking inside the top five. You could give credit to Brock Osweiler for that success, but does the real secret lie elsewhere?

Have you seen the Denver defense? They, and not the reserve quarterback, were the key to Denver's success.

Several times during the course of the season I referred to the Broncos defense as being the return of the famed Denver "Orange Crush" defense of the mid to late 1970's. The current defense held their opponents to somewhere between 10-18 points in every post season game this season. They did the same, with a few notable exceptions, during the regular season as well. That is a recipe for sustained success in the National Football League.

NFL teams won 82.5 percent of their games over the past decade when keeping opponents in that 10-18 scoring window. Tarvaris Jackson has a 10-1 starting record when his teams give up that many points. The record over the past decade is 17-2 for Vince Young, 16-2 for Matt Schaub and 14-1 for Ryan Tannehill. Tim Tebow, John Skelton and Gus Frerotte are a combined 16-0 in these games over the 10-year period in question. (Peyton Manning, for what it's worth, is 44-1.)...
 
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Right now as I am typing this, the Dallas Cowboys better be having some major talk with free agents through the league.

Getting to much starch in their collars could possibly cause this team to completely miss Tony Romo's window.

Seriously, woulda' coulda' shoulda' about cap right now...better get quality on the defensive line, up front. I would add both two defensive ends and a very solid defensive tackle. That is before the draft and in the front of the wild circus that kicks off Wednesday afternoon. (after 4:00 pm Eastern)

If not, this might be the very first time that saving his wallet - over road his mouth...for Jerry Jones.
 

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Right now as I am typing this, the Dallas Cowboys better be having some major talk with free agents through the league.

Getting to much starch in their collars could possibly cause this team to completely miss Tony Romo's window.

Seriously, woulda' coulda' shoulda' about cap right now...better get quality on the defensive line, up front. I would add both two defensive ends and a very solid defensive tackle. That is before the draft and in the front of the wild circus that kicks off Wednesday afternoon. (after 4:00 pm Eastern)

If not, this might be the very first time that saving his wallet - over road his mouth...for Jerry Jones.

I think the Boys need to grab some quality defensive talent as well. Which three players (2 DEs and 1 DT) would you bring in if you were Jerry?
 

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I think the Boys need to grab some quality defensive talent as well. Which three players (2 DEs and 1 DT) would you bring in if you were Jerry?

Seriously committed?


Denver's
3 DT/DE Malik Jackson


Miami's *(transitioned status)
DE Olivier Vernon $13-15 Million offer



This would give the Dallas defense, both a young stud defensive end, and the top DT in free agency...and that would open things considerably.
 
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Good thread. However some fans feel that signing Weddle and drafting Ramsey will solve the defensive issues.

I'm going on record that if Jerry and Jason avoid addressing the dline with talent the defense will be terrible next season.
 

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Good thread. However some fans feel that signing Weddle and drafting Ramsey will solve the defensive issues.

I'm going on record that if Jerry and Jason avoid addressing the dline with talent the defense will be terrible next season.

Give a second rate receiver/quarterback group too much time, and they can manhandle a quality defensive secondary. As the OP states.
 

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Let's look at the Broncos....
They didn't generate so much pressure on the QB because they have the most talented DE's in the league..or the best DT's...

They get waves of pressure coming from hard to predict angles because they have a very very good defensive coordinator that understands that you are not going to line up 11 v 11 man on man and expect to dominate the offenses in the NFL. The Seahawks, Panthers, and Broncos know how to take over a game with confusion and pressure...

There isn't a player we can draft and sign as a free agent who will turn us into the Broncos defense.
 

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I believe they should do everything they can do improve the defense through the draft and free agency, with the exception of the first pick, which I would like to see them trade down a couple spots and still get Elliott, who would be this defenses' best friend.
 

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The issue is not back up passer ... but the future QB of this franchise.
 

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Seriously committed?


Denver's
3 DT/DE Malik Jackson


Miami's *(transitioned status)
DE Olivier Vernon $13-15 Million offer


This would give the Dallas defense, both a young stud defensive end, and the top DT in free agency...and that would open things considerably.

But the Cowboys need a defensive tackle and MAY BE one end since Gregory isn't coming back. They need more depth than they need tow waste money on these guys.
 

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If the NFL is going to cease to operate after 2016, absolutely, DL is by far the biggest need.

But since the NFL will likely continue beyond 2016, and the odds are that Dallas won't be drafting this high again in the near future, a wise organization would look beyond Romo's years and want that next QB in place for a seamless transition.

Instead, I guess Jerry and some of the fans are OK with repeating what happened after Aikman finally hung it up.
 

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ive felt that we have neglected our interior D for many years. i shook my head every year nick hayden made the team and started. i hope they fix it this year. time to stop ignoring the 1 tech.
 

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If the NFL is going to cease to operate after 2016, absolutely, DL is by far the biggest need.

But since the NFL will likely continue beyond 2016, and the odds are that Dallas won't be drafting this high again in the near future, a wise organization would look beyond Romo's years and want that next QB in place for a seamless transition.

Instead, I guess Jerry and some of the fans are OK with repeating what happened after Aikman finally hung it up.

Cowboys failed after AIkman not because they didn't have someone waiting but because they didn't even ATTEMPT to draft anyone aside from Quincy. I'm not convinced the they would make that same mistake again.
 

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ive felt that we have neglected our interior D for many years. i shook my head every year nick hayden made the team and started. i hope they fix it this year. time to stop ignoring the 1 tech.

They neglected it because they had other pressing needs. In Maranelli's scheme.......you had far bigger concerns. Like your secondary, your pass rushers, your linebackers. That one tech is probably the least of their worries but they have to do something tat some point.
 

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Cowboys failed after AIkman not because they didn't have someone waiting but because they didn't even ATTEMPT to draft anyone aside from Quincy. I'm not convinced the they would make that same mistake again.

They also signed Hutchinson as a free agent after his brief run in baseball. Hutchinson was thought to be a high round draft pick if he had stuck with football. They also traded a 3rd I believe to the Texans for the rights to Drew Henson, who also was giving up baseball. So they went with three, younger guys who weren't exactly blue chip QBs (well Henson was thought to be an elite QB if he went in the NFL) but more 2nd-3rd round guys.

And they failed only to be bailed out by the luck of the football gods who allowed an UDFA to turn into arguably one of the greatest non-drafted players in the last 10-15 years.
 

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Denver is about to lose DT/DE Jackson...with a draft full of defensive linemen to replace with.
 
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The issue is not back up passer ... but the future QB of this franchise.

Correct.

The organization must think short term, medium term AND long term. Free agency, mid round draft picks is for the short term. Mid round draft picks generally don't have long careers.

Early draft picks should be for long term thinking. Beyond 2016. Beyond 2017. Beyond 2018.

I see zero long term thinking on this team. Zero. There hasn't been since Jimmy Johnson left.
 
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