Deion Sanders favorite to land Cowboys HC job with even odds

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Problem is by signing Dak, they opened that up to save that horrid investment. Moore at least (in their minds) makes Dak salvageable. SAD!!
Good point, but Moore is just not a leader of men,

It’s like putting the dude who keeps getting pantsed in gym class in charge, everybody would just laugh their arses off at the idea.
 

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Right now Belichick and Sanders are trying to convince teenagers to please come play for them. Moore is working with an NFL coaching staff and NFL players on how to win a game against the Los Angeles Rams and get to the NFC Championship Game. Except for Cowboys fans no one is more ignorant than Jerry Jones.
Moore working with an NFL coaching staff and NFL players instead of convincing teenagers to play for him doesn't equate to him being a better head coach than Belichick and Sanders. A lot of coordinators crap the bed when they are given the chance. Wade Phillips was a fantastic coordinator, but milquetoast as a head coach.

I'm not opposed to Moore over coaches who have already been given a chance to be a head coach and failed, but I'll keep him behind a coach who has multiple Super Bowl rings and another who has at least shown that he can get a team to do what he says with success on some level. There's a lot that goes into being a head coach and it's not for everyone, even those who succeed as coordinators.
 

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Jerry and Jimmy have two of the biggest egos in the world and made it work for a few years to the tune of two Super Bowl titles (and another built on what they had accomplished together).
Jimmy and Jerry were actually friends when they played football together in college. Deion was a hired mercenary to Jerry. Totally different situation.
 

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As far as your odds are concerned, please consider a career as a bookie. I will be your first and most loyal customer.

You are saying that Zimmer has a 60% chance of getting the job while Moore has a 50% chance.

This means that there is a 110% chance that the new coach will be Zimmer or Moore.
I think you're forgetting one thing, and maybe you get lost in the fact that we're in the Internet we're on a forum discussing opinions, these are opinions, this list may not even be Jerry's list ,but we're talking about comfort that if Mike Zimmer truly was interested and doesn't retire he might have the best chance to get the job here because Jerry likes the veteran coach he doesn't like big changes and moving Mike Zimmer into the head coaching position would be less change and that's why MOORE also gets the nod because he used to be here and Jerry sees him like Jason Garrett but this is my list my initial list of what I think Jerry's thinking..

that doesn't make it true doesn't make it a reality ,

so I don't care about your insinuation I could be a good bookie and that the odds look like those two have the best shot because at this point there are other people on the list Jerry's actual list, you realize this is in flux daily ,when we start hearing what Jerry is interested in and he is the one that has the last vote..

So with Robert Saleigh and Leslie Frazier coming in for interviews with the fact that Deion Sanders is still somewhat in play and there's a little talk Bill Belichick could at the last minute get out of his deal and come and fight for the job he might try to promote himself for the job we don't know that could be going on right now so that's a completely different list now isn't it this was just one let's call it a mock list you know all these mock drafts people have been doing since like the middle of the season which was nonsense that you really mocked drafts but people seem to like rankings and mock drafts and things that are really opinionated based so I thought I'd throw my first list up and now it's changing....

By the way there's a good chance my dark horse that's gonna be at the bottom of my new list that I might put up tomorrow would be that a combination of Pete Carroll as the head coach and this interview with Robert Saleigh could be two parts could be hey I know you're here for the head coaching position but how would you feel about being the defensive coordinator slash assistant head coach just in case we go a different direction I can see those two I don't know what the pairing would be but there are rumors that Pete Carroll could be in play...

Everything on here is an opinion and I just like to see my lists and opinions are basically my coaching candidate mock list... You can have yours and I'll have mine and everybody on here will keep doing this until Jerry makes a decision and then we're gonna have these long winded conversations like we had after the Mike McCarthy hire how about how big a mistake that was in which it turned out it wasn't he was the actual best coach that was hired in 2020 it's in black and white the results are in he literally and by far with a huge gap had the most success of all the coaching hires in 2020 see the irony in here no matter what the fan base is not gonna be happy there's always gonna be debate everyone's gonna be arguing all day every day about feelings..lol
 

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well it looks to me that's the worst list because that's the most unrealistic list I mean they picked the ones with the worst odds probably none of those guys are going to end up with it there's a whole different list out there gotta love how the Internet just throw scat at a wall and it hardly even has any reality to it
 

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Not sure what's causing all the angst and hand wringing about Deion coaching here.

We all know that top candidates like Vrabel and Johnson were never going to come here so after the top guys, who's left?

Do we really want retreads or inexperienced guys like Moore, Zimmer or Witten here?

I'm not pro nor anti Deion.....but i am against the alternatives
 

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I think you're forgetting one thing, and maybe you get lost in the fact that we're in the Internet we're on a forum discussing opinions, these are opinions, this list may not even be Jerry's list ,but we're talking about comfort that if Mike Zimmer truly was interested and doesn't retire he might have the best chance to get the job here because Jerry likes the veteran coach he doesn't like big changes and moving Mike Zimmer into the head coaching position would be less change and that's why MOORE also gets the nod because he used to be here and Jerry sees him like Jason Garrett but this is my list my initial list of what I think Jerry's thinking..

that doesn't make it true doesn't make it a reality ,

so I don't care about your insinuation I could be a good bookie and that the odds look like those two have the best shot because at this point there are other people on the list Jerry's actual list, you realize this is in flux daily ,when we start hearing what Jerry is interested in and he is the one that has the last vote..

So with Robert Saleigh and Leslie Frazier coming in for interviews with the fact that Deion Sanders is still somewhat in play and there's a little talk Bill Belichick could at the last minute get out of his deal and come and fight for the job he might try to promote himself for the job we don't know that could be going on right now so that's a completely different list now isn't it this was just one let's call it a mock list you know all these mock drafts people have been doing since like the middle of the season which was nonsense that you really mocked drafts but people seem to like rankings and mock drafts and things that are really opinionated based so I thought I'd throw my first list up and now it's changing....

By the way there's a good chance my dark horse that's gonna be at the bottom of my new list that I might put up tomorrow would be that a combination of Pete Carroll as the head coach and this interview with Robert Saleigh could be two parts could be hey I know you're here for the head coaching position but how would you feel about being the defensive coordinator slash assistant head coach just in case we go a different direction I can see those two I don't know what the pairing would be but there are rumors that Pete Carroll could be in play...

Everything on here is an opinion and I just like to see my lists and opinions are basically my coaching candidate mock list... You can have yours and I'll have mine and everybody on here will keep doing this until Jerry makes a decision and then we're gonna have these long winded conversations like we had after the Mike McCarthy hire how about how big a mistake that was in which it turned out it wasn't he was the actual best coach that was hired in 2020 it's in black and white the results are in he literally and by far with a huge gap had the most success of all the coaching hires in 2020 see the irony in here no matter what the fan base is not gonna be happy there's always gonna be debate everyone's gonna be arguing all day every day about feelings..lol
I can't understand a word of this. Could you post this in Spanish instead?
 

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don't be believing the hype I don't believe that's on the table but Tony Romo I mean that list is so short there's a lot more candidates but when you add Tony Romo and primetime in there it's not really realistic the whole list is then flawed..

MY list and odds in order of most likely to least,

Zimmer 60-40
Kellen Moore- 50-50
Kliff kingberry-49-51
Slowic-40-60
Aaron Glenn-30-70
Ben Johnson- less than 1% lol
Blue? Zimmer #1? That is ludicrous at best... Zimmer was a failure at Minnesota toward the end, he is old and was close to terrible taking over for Quinn as defensive coordinator.. So, do you think Jerry sees zim as a guy to get butts back in the seats and cause excitement in big D? That is insane..
 

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I think you're forgetting one thing, and maybe you get lost in the fact that we're in the Internet we're on a forum discussing opinions, these are opinions, this list may not even be Jerry's list ,but we're talking about comfort that if Mike Zimmer truly was interested and doesn't retire he might have the best chance to get the job here because Jerry likes the veteran coach he doesn't like big changes and moving Mike Zimmer into the head coaching position would be less change and that's why MOORE also gets the nod because he used to be here and Jerry sees him like Jason Garrett but this is my list my initial list of what I think Jerry's thinking..

that doesn't make it true doesn't make it a reality ,

so I don't care about your insinuation I could be a good bookie and that the odds look like those two have the best shot because at this point there are other people on the list Jerry's actual list, you realize this is in flux daily ,when we start hearing what Jerry is interested in and he is the one that has the last vote..

So with Robert Saleigh and Leslie Frazier coming in for interviews with the fact that Deion Sanders is still somewhat in play and there's a little talk Bill Belichick could at the last minute get out of his deal and come and fight for the job he might try to promote himself for the job we don't know that could be going on right now so that's a completely different list now isn't it this was just one let's call it a mock list you know all these mock drafts people have been doing since like the middle of the season which was nonsense that you really mocked drafts but people seem to like rankings and mock drafts and things that are really opinionated based so I thought I'd throw my first list up and now it's changing....

By the way there's a good chance my dark horse that's gonna be at the bottom of my new list that I might put up tomorrow would be that a combination of Pete Carroll as the head coach and this interview with Robert Saleigh could be two parts could be hey I know you're here for the head coaching position but how would you feel about being the defensive coordinator slash assistant head coach just in case we go a different direction I can see those two I don't know what the pairing would be but there are rumors that Pete Carroll could be in play...

Everything on here is an opinion and I just like to see my lists and opinions are basically my coaching candidate mock list... You can have yours and I'll have mine and everybody on here will keep doing this until Jerry makes a decision and then we're gonna have these long winded conversations like we had after the Mike McCarthy hire how about how big a mistake that was in which it turned out it wasn't he was the actual best coach that was hired in 2020 it's in black and white the results are in he literally and by far with a huge gap had the most success of all the coaching hires in 2020 see the irony in here no matter what the fan base is not gonna be happy there's always gonna be debate everyone's gonna be arguing all day every day about feelings..lol
I was nitpicking, and I shouldn't have been.

I may disagree with an opinion of yours, but I respect your right to have that opinion. I might have been a little cranky because you made me read so much. I'm joking.

Anyone that has the passion and takes the time to discuss the issue in such depth deserves my respect. I noticed from previous posts that there is much we agree on and some that we don't and that's fair.
 

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Deion would be a very unlike Jerry outcome. But where there is smoke...
 

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Blue? Zimmer #1? That is ludicrous at best... Zimmer was a failure at Minnesota toward the end, he is old and was close to terrible taking over for Quinn as defensive coordinator.. So, do you think Jerry sees zim as a guy to get butts back in the seats and cause excitement in big D? That is insane..
Some of you have no comprehension at all if you read my posts clearly slowly it says this is my gut feeling by what Jerry Jones might be thinking so why don't you grab something maybe your ankles and let me know when you figure out how you have egg on your face because I didn't say that would be the most likely candidate in my eyes but the way Jerry thinks many people think that he'll go back on what's comfortable....

And some of you just like skim over things and then post and it's completely wrong
 

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Some of you have no comprehension at all if you read my posts clearly slowly it says this is my gut feeling by what Jerry Jones might be thinking so why don't you grab something maybe your ankles and let me know when you figure out how you have egg on your face because I didn't say that would be the most likely candidate in my eyes but the way Jerry thinks many people think that he'll go back on what's comfortable....

And some of you just like skim over things and then post and it's completely wrong
Your posts! You mean your novels? You don't post, you write books!!
 
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