Demarcus Ware: Denver Training Methods Much Different

[Miller]

Not sure if it will help him or if their way works. Just an article. Will be interesting to see how it plays out for a season

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...t-deal-than-what-i-did-with-the-cowboys.html/

DeMarcus Ware was one of 10 Dallas Cowboys starters to miss a game last season due to injury. The Cowboys rank third over the last two seasons in terms of games missed by starting players.

The Cowboys have been searching for ways to reduce that number in 2014. If they need any more outside advice, giving Ware a call might be a good idea. That’s because Ware’s new team, the Denver Broncos, are trying some non traditional ways of getting their team ready for another possible Super Bowl run.

Following Denver’s first day of off-season conditioning on Monday, Ware was asked about how the Broncos train.

“It’s an unconventional type of way of working out, but it’s the best way to keep guys on the field and keep them flexible, but also being able to maintain a guy through their whole career,” Ware said. “We did sleds, we did leg slides, Keiser machines. You name it, it was in there. Really state-of-the-art.

“I’m really looking forward to just working out this type of way. It’s a whole different deal.”

 

[erod]

Didn't seem to help Von Miller, Elvis Dumervil, Knowshon Moreno, etc.

Didn't they lose 3-4 starting offensive linemen last year before the season?

 

[CowboyStar88]

Don't like hearing this. But evidence shows the Boys haven't been good at keeping guys healthy the last few years. I don't think it's going to change much

 

[CowboyStar88]

Didn't seem to help Von Miller, Elvis Dumervil, Knowshon Moreno, etc.

Didn't they lose 3-4 starting offensive linemen last year before the season?

Were any of those Hamstring or muscle issues? Or were they more Knee issue stuff? I don't remember so I'm asking. I think we have a lot of muscle tissue injuries on this team

 

[erod]

Were any of those Hamstring or muscle issues? Or were they more Knee issue stuff? I don't remember so I'm asking. I think we have a lot of muscle tissue injuries on this team

The NFL, all teams, still use static stretching before games, which has been proven to weaken muscles before a game and increase the chances of pulls and strains. Soccer players NEVER stretch like that. Even most high schools have gotten rid of it. Dynamic stretching is considered far better for preparing a muscle for high intensity.

But a far bigger component to muscle pulls is PEDs. Almost all football players use them, and they make muscles susceptible to injury, especially for players with natural frames that aren't built to carry that much weight and muscle. Ware and Austin, I believe, are prime examples.

Young men aren't supposed to pull hamstrings. Yet pro athletes do it all the time. Rarely do you see the average 25-year-old pull a hamstring doing anything. Steroids.

 

[Miller]

Were any of those Hamstring or muscle issues? Or were they more Knee issue stuff? I don't remember so I'm asking. I think we have a lot of muscle tissue injuries on this team

This might also be something new to Denver. The article didn't state whether they've always used these methods or if they are trying to do things to improve and make another run.

 

[CowboyStar88]

This might also be something new to Denver. The article didn't state whether they've always used these methods or if they are trying to do things to improve and make another run.

Good observation thanks for pointing that out

 

[texbumthelife]

The NFL, all teams, still use static stretching before games, which has been proven to weaken muscles before a game and increase the chances of pulls and strains. Soccer players NEVER stretch like that. Even most high schools have gotten rid of it. Dynamic stretching is considered far better for preparing a muscle for high intensity.

But a far bigger component to muscle pulls is PEDs. Almost all football players use them, and they make muscles susceptible to injury, especially for players with natural frames that aren't built to carry that much weight and muscle. Ware and Austin, I believe, are prime examples.

Young men aren't supposed to pull hamstrings. Yet pro athletes do it all the time. Rarely do you see the average 25-year-old pull a hamstring doing anything. Steroids.

I was with you until that last sentence. The average 25-year-old isn't trying to run while pushing a 350lb man out of his way. The average man doesn't sprint, rest, sprint, rest repeat for 45 minutes. I agree that PED's are a large part of the problem but to compare professional athletes and what they put their bodies through to an average man is crazy.

That said, I absolutely agree with you about the stretching. I have wondered about it for years. Half the players don't even take it seriously anyway. If you aren't interested in actually stretching out, it's very easy to just go through the motions. You shouldn't be able to have a 20 minute conversation with the guy next to you while stretching for something as vigorous as professional football game. Time and time again I have seen warm-upsstretching and its guys simply going through the motions jawing with buddies on the team.

 

[erod]

I was with you until that last sentence. The average 25-year-old isn't trying to run while pushing a 350lb man out of his way. The average man doesn't sprint, rest, sprint, rest repeat for 45 minutes. I agree that PED's are a large part of the problem but to compare professional athletes and what they put their bodies through to an average man is crazy.

That said, I absolutely agree with you about the stretching. I have wondered about it for years. Half the players don't even take it seriously anyway. If you aren't interested in actually stretching out, it's very easy to just go through the motions. You shouldn't be able to have a 20 minute conversation with the guy next to you while stretching for something as vigorous as professional football game. Time and time again I have seen warm-upsstretching and its guys simply going through the motions jawing with buddies on the team.

But the point on stretching is, it's been proven that NO stretching is better than what these guys are doing. Dynamic stretching uses actual motion as a warm up, whereas static stretching just weakens the muscle.

Look at pro track athletes. Pulling muscles all the time. That's because they're so roided-out that their tendons and muscles can't take the slightest misstep. ACLs didn't used to snap constantly by simply planting a foot the wrong way. The problem with PEDs is that they build tremendous muscle strength and size, but they do nothing to prevent injury, and they don't strengthen tendons at all. More injuries occur around the tendon attachments as a result.

Look at the Texas Rangers. Guys are yanking hamstrings from just legging out doubles. That shouldn't happen in young men. It didn't happen back in the 60s and 70s.

 

[BigStar]

“It’s an unconventional type of way of working out, but it’s the best way to keep guys on the field and keep them flexible, but also being able to maintain a guy through their whole career,” Ware said. “We did sleds, we did leg slides, Keiser machines. You name it, it was in there. Really state-of-the-art.

This is the aspect that caught my eye specifically. Do we cheap out on the equipment (options/type of equipment) or the type of training other teams have @ their disposal? I've heard VR was out of date, but didn't know that related to the equipment and strategies as well. Concerning.

 

[ajk23az]

Lol at the amount you guys try to read into normal statements. Concerning.

 

[daveferr33]

Didn't seem to help Von Miller, Elvis Dumervil, Knowshon Moreno, etc.

Didn't they lose 3-4 starting offensive linemen last year before the season?

That can't be right. Teams with that many injuries can't make the playoffs, let alone go to the Super Bowl.

I mean the cowboys....

 

[jnday]

This might also be something new to Denver. The article didn't state whether they've always used these methods or if they are trying to do things to improve and make another run.

Considering their injury history, it could be a new training system. I would like to think that the Cowboys' staff is going to undergo some major changes.

 

[Silver N Blue]

I am shocked to read a former player likes a change of scenery.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I am shocked to read a former player likes a change of scenery.

And he said it without dogging out his former team, too. Go figure.

 

[Zordon]

And he said it without dogging out his former team, too. Go figure.

The offseason is young. Those comments are coming, just wait.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Blah.

The offseason is young. Those comments are coming, just wait.

Blah... Demarcus is one guy I don't worry about. Now ppl will nitpick his words and a controversy could from that, but I think he's a class guy who will watch his words. He doesn't want to hurt his Cowboys legacy.

 

[BigStar]

This might also be something new to Denver. The article didn't state whether they've always used these methods or if they are trying to do things to improve and make another run.

I agree that this does sound like something they are just utilizing this year.

Lol at the amount you guys try to read into normal statements. Concerning.

Yeah we should never dig deeper, we know the DFW media will update us on the smaller details they gave up on digging for years ago. We should never try to dig a little deeper as fans seeing as how great the sports media is about challenging JJ about how things are run at the ranch. Cyst Removal = No Deep Ball in 2013. 2 week injury turns into 2 months, etc.

This skepticism or trying to gather the information on our own wouldn't be as critical if the DFW media did their job of holding the team accountable to these types of variables in the structure compared to other "respectable" franchises. Specific questions in press conferences, interviews, etc. Not the safe "JJ needs to hire a GM" simpleness that is printed from the safety of their newsroom.

Ask him specifically, "why this team fails when others have found ways to adapt and still manage while faced with the same difficulties and actually find ways to succeed in the process". "How often can injuries be used as an excuse without changing the training regime?" Are you interested in winning, because many football man claim that you are not, and are simply content with a competitive team (not a winner) for the sake of profit. "There is a general theory that you would rather burn the whole thing down then allow critical advice to the structure, (GM role) etc." "Has the team failed as a result of nepotism, which has increasingly been mentioned as a reason for the lack of accountability and complacency within this organization?"

Test Him Already! His ego is fragile as hell. Have you ever seen JJ get defensive? It is actually quite easy to fluster him when he has to deal with a tough question. Been awhile, but there are times few and between that display this behavior on his part as a result of even moderately tough questions.

NE Media Stuff

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

The offseason is young. Those comments are coming, just wait.

Well, there will be plenty of comments that will be posted about as if they meant something more than what was actually said - Im sure we can count on that!

 

[Future]

The NFL, all teams, still use static stretching before games, which has been proven to weaken muscles before a game and increase the chances of pulls and strains. Soccer players NEVER stretch like that. Even most high schools have gotten rid of it. Dynamic stretching is considered far better for preparing a muscle for high intensity.

But a far bigger component to muscle pulls is PEDs. Almost all football players use them, and they make muscles susceptible to injury, especially for players with natural frames that aren't built to carry that much weight and muscle. Ware and Austin, I believe, are prime examples.

Young men aren't supposed to pull hamstrings. Yet pro athletes do it all the time. Rarely do you see the average 25-year-old pull a hamstring doing anything. Steroids.

That whole weakens muscle thing is only if it is done when the muscles are cold. They use dynamic stretching AND static. Dynamic is better for injury prevention, but static is vital for flexibility.