Demarcus Ware??

[bbgun]

He won't get a sack every week (no player does). But he can't go three or more games in a row without a sack, like last year.

 

[J-DOG]

hey people did anyone notice that demarcus ware was held in check basically the whole game im glad we didn't trade greg ellis who continues to be one of the consistent bright spots and playmakers on this defense because without him pressuring off his end we would really have a so-so pass rush. its scary because this houston o-line isnt close to the g-men o-line with rosenthal and mckenzie so i hope he'll have one of those great games against eli because we'll need it to force turnovers and win. anyone else feel the same?

Doesn't someone put a thread like this after every Cowboy game???

Ware is not a worry.

We gave up 6 pts for crying out loud.

Carr was taking quick short drops and rarely threw over 20 yards, if at all.

So any whining about Ware not getting to the qb is fruitless.

One thing I did see though, was a line stunt with Ware and the DE. Where has that been all season???

Ware did come free on a couple of those but like I said before...Carr was taking short throws all day long.

 

[tomson75]

Doesn't someone put a thread like this after every Cowboy game???

Ware is not a worry.

We gave up 6 pts for crying out loud.

Carr was taking quick short drops and rarely threw over 20 yards, if at all.

So any whining about Ware not getting to the qb is fruitless.

One thing I did see though, was a line stunt with Ware and the DE. Where has that been all season???

Ware did come free on a couple of those but like I said before...Carr was taking short throws all day long.

Stop underreacting!!!!














Good post.

 

[CarlAllDay]

first of all i threw the drumroll in good faith because of all the T.O naysayers. but if you watch the game again you will see that canty played a huge role in the run game more than ware if you ask me, and you people kill me with the biased crap im a huge cowboys fan, i travel out there to dallas to see our cowboys and visit this board every 15 mins even at work on my blackberry so to try to play me like im not paying attention is rediculous!!

but im a realist and to keep it real demarcus ware has not outplayed shawn merriman at all and he should be showing alot more against weaker opponents like the texans yeah he drops back into coverage more but he also sure as hell rushes the passer more than enough. he needs to have that mean streak that puts him over the top just like parcells said because there's no doubt he has the ability but potential means nothing in a bottom line business.

So lets stop getting defensive and lets be realistic he's supposed to be in mcginnist,john abraham, and LT's position and they are playmakers so the bottom line is cut the excuses lets see some plays being made and lets stop making excuses why the cowboys drafted him instead of merriman.

because last time i checked this board had a hell of a shorter leash for roy williams and both of them are high first round picks only difference is that roy played like a pro bowler from day one! julius peppers did too, john abraham was good his first year also jevon kearse, so was hugh dougalas, also shawn merriman, im just saying guys he has to make more plays if not he'll be just considered a solid player like greg ellis was before his switch to lb.

 

[CarlAllDay]

im sorry but since when does how many points you give up means that everyone played well? im just stating the facts, because if ware doesn't register a sack next week and we lose then you'll be the same folks saying where was everyone at last week when he didnt have a sack last week and we only gave up 6 points.

like i said if it aint one excuse its another we cant keep trying to protect everybody because if thats the case then why is people riding bledsoe and we scored 34 POINTS!!!!! come on people im just being consistent. i dont care who you are if we win big or lose and your not producing it bothers me period. winning big does not give anybody an excuse for not playing well or standing out especially when your supposed to be this breakout player come on guys keep it real

 

[tomson75]

first of all i threw the drumroll in good faith because of all the T.O naysayers. but if you watch the game again you will see that canty played a huge role in the run game more than ware if you ask me, and you people kill me with the biased crap im a huge cowboys fan, i travel out there to dallas to see our cowboys and visit this board every 15 mins even at work on my blackberry so to try to play me like im not paying attention is rediculous!! but im a realist and to keep it real demarcus ware has not outplayed shawn merriman at all and he should be showing alot more against weaker opponents like the texans yeah he drops back into coverage more but he also sure as hell rushes the passer more than enough. he needs to have that mean streak that puts him over the top just like parcells said because there's no doubt he has the ability but potential means nothing in a bottom line business. So lets stop getting defensive and lets be realistic he's supposed to be in mcginnist,john abraham, and LT's position and they are playmakers so the bottom line is cut the excuses lets see some plays being made and lets stop making excuses why the cowboys drafted him instead of merriman. because last time i checked this board had a hell of a shorter leash for roy williams and both of them are high first round picks only difference is that roy played like a pro bowler from day one! julius peppers did too, john abraham was good his first year also jevon kearse, so was hugh dougalas, also shawn merriman, im just saying guys he has to make more plays if not he'll be just considered a solid player like greg ellis was before his switch to lb.

Notice anything about those players? How about the fact that they all played the same position in college as they do now? Hmmm....

So I take it that 60 some odd yard fumble recovery for a touchdown last week wasn't a big play? Your argument here is excruciatingly painful to read, as its been repeated over and over by people with the same inabilty to grasp the bigger picture. You even threw in a Merriman comparison to boot....

 

[AbeBeta]

Ware is doing his job and learning as he goes.

Ware is learning.

People on the board aren't.

 

[CarlAllDay]

first of all abraham, merriman, played both in college but were primarily linebackers, and jevon kearse came to florida as a safety fool so he never was used to playing as an end so before you try to tell me about my inability check yours and do your research, but if thats the case i dont want to hear the hype about a player breaking out if your going to make excuses about how he never played a position before when rushing the passer is what he does im not comparing his coverage ability im talking rushing the passer!!! his position has nothing to do with him not getting sacks or constant pressure on the qb bottom line. i bet you never even played football i you think that it does.

 

[tomson75]

first of all abraham, merriman, played both in college but were primarily linebackers, and jevon kearse came to florida as a safety fool so he never was used to playing as an end so before you try to tell me about my inability check yours and do your research, but if thats the case i dont want to hear the hype about a player breaking out if your going to make excuses about how he never played a position before when rushing the passer is what he does im not comparing his coverage ability im talking rushing the passer!!! his position has nothing to do with him not getting sacks or constant pressure on the qb bottom line. i bet you never even played football i you think that it does.

You'll notice I didn't highlight Merriman...or maybe not. Abraham and Kearse were primary pass rush specialists with their hands down by their senior years at South Carolina and Florida respectively. I could care less what Kearse was in high school, that wasn't my point. I'm not making any excuses for anyone. I did play football. Your assumptions are as weak as your grammar. You don't get it...won't get it.

 

[CarlAllDay]

well i see this is going nowhere but my of veiw stays the same, and like i said the same people that are making it ok now will be flipping out if he doesn't get a sack or pressure eli manning heavily next week. like i said before im just being consistent.

last week he made plays but as playmaker in this league you cant play good one week and dissapear the next and i've seen it last year and this year too, so your entitled to your own opinon

so you can feel how you want and i can too but to tell me what i cant grasp is just ******** everyone doesn't have to agree with you or me so to get ignorant is just plain old stupid,

but like i said im a diehard cowboys fan that stood proud in my roy williams jersey at the philadelphia game with those drunks and like i said i like demarcus ware i just want him to be more consistent before we keep overrating him and his pass rushing ability. i think he's gonna be good and he's a fine athlete but he has to be more consistent.

 

[CarlAllDay]

and one more thing im typing on a blackberry at work so lets not try to critique my grammar because thats pretty lame. this is a forum not a spelling bee

 

[tomson75]

well i see this is going nowhere but my of veiw stays the same, and like i said the same people that are making it ok now will be flipping out if he doesn't get a sack or pressure eli manning heavily next week. like i said before im just being consistent. last week he made plays but as playmaker in this league you cant play good one week and dissapear the next and i've seen it last year and this year too, so your entitled to your own opinon so you can feel how you want and i can too but to tell me what i cant grasp is just ******** everyone doesn't have to agree with you or me so to get ignorant is just plain old stupid, but like i said im a diehard cowboys fan that stood proud in my roy williams jersey at the philadelphia game with those drunks and like i said i like demarcus ware i just want him to be more consistent before we keep overrating him and his pass rushing ability. i think he's gonna be good and he's a fine athlete but he has to be more consistent.

Fair enough.

 

[tomson75]

and one more thing im typing on a blackberry at work so lets not try to critique my grammar because thats pretty lame. this is a forum not a spelling bee

Point taken.

 

[CarlAllDay]

tomosn one more thing (sorry) if we attack each other we're no better than those damn classless eagles fan you know. at the end of the day we're here for all the same reasons- we're cowboys fans and we want our team to win. we all just have different veiws thats what helps us evaluate our team better.

 

[tomson75]

tomosn one more thing (sorry) if we attack each other we're no better than those damn classless eagles fan you know. at the end of the day we're here for all the same reasons- we're cowboys fans and we want our team to win. we all just have different veiws thats what helps us evaluate our team better.

Agreed. That's why we're all here.

 

[dallasfan31]

ware could had a least 2 sacks they were holding him all day.

 

[Cowboysguy]

I watched the game from the 13th row in Texas Stadium and focused on Ware a lot. He had a rough game...but I'm willing to give the Tex-Annes' Ephraim Salaam a lot of credit there too, he did a very nice job of keeping Ware from the QB.

But, as someone correctly posted earlier in this thread, a large reason for that was the fact that Carr was doing 3 step drops and quickly releasing the ball for 5-10 yard outs all day. How many times did Carr actually thrown more than 10 yards downfield?

Also, DeMarcus did have a nice game in the running game.

All in all, it wasn't his best game...hopefully he can learn from it and be better next week.

 

[Sarge]

Actually, I thought Ware had consistent pressure today but didn't get a sack. Best pressure on the Dline.
But overall, Ware's pass rushing skills are overrated by Cowboys fans.
I do believe Ellis is the best pass rusher on the team. He has two moves that work well. Both rely upon a 'bull rush like' motion where he engages the olineman hard and then, using his hands to gain clearance makes a quick move either inside or outside to go around his man.

Ware does not have this move.

Ware is a better all-around player though.

But Ellis is not far behind.

Have to agree. I think Ware's pass rushing skills are indeed overrated by Cowboy fans. He's a very good player but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't somewhat disapointed by him. He's no Shante Carver but he's no Charles Haley either.