DeMarcus Ware's Inclusion on 2000s' Decade Team Marks Another AP Gaffe

[Hostile]

This is such a ridiculous article. Not because he point may or may not be valid (it's not) but because he literally has no argument other than "Demarcus Ware hasnt played football in the NFL for 10 years".

EDIT: I see Hos kind of beat me to it.

Three years into Jerry Rice's career people were already calling him the best WR in NFL History. It takes a certain kind of stupidity to close your eyes to talent and focus on age. Just blows my mind. No one with a working head can deny Ware's talent. It is about age over talent? At some point it just makes sense to remove heads from dark, smelly places.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Someone please tell this guy (he's just a fan, by the way) that the All-Decade Team is NOT picked by the AP.

It's chosen by the Pro Football Hall of Fame committee.

 

[Hoofbite]

Three years into Jerry Rice's career people were already calling him the best WR in NFL History. It takes a certain kind of stupidity to close your eyes to talent and focus on age. Just blows my mind. No one with a working head can deny Ware's talent. It is about age over talent? At some point it just makes sense to remove heads from dark, smelly places.

No, its not about age. Its about tenure, which is not synonymous with age and makes your initial response about birth year being a priority completely off base.

Like I said, I think longevity is a variable that needs to be counted for.

*Oops, misread that quote. Thought you were replying to me but see you were replying to count. Gonna leave this up anyhow*

 

[Hostile]

No, its not about age. Its about tenure, which is not synonymous with age and makes your initial response about birth year being a priority completely off base.

Like I said, I think longevity is a variable that needs to be counted for.

*Oops, misread that quote. Thought you were replying to me but see you were replying to count. Gonna leave this up anyhow*

You agree with the author? Holy cow dude. I find agreement with morons to be unpalatable, and he is a moron.

By the way, I guarantee you that I can find people on previous all decade teams who have the same level of experience as Ware. Like I said, talent matters more.

 

[YosemiteSam]

If you have a guy who has produced for 8+ years but maybe not as much as a guy who has played for 5, I think the 8+ guy should get the nod.

Why?

I mean, say you get a guy drafted in 2005 that plays for 10 years. He is the most dominate player in NFL history over those 10 years, but a great player drafted in 2000 that plays 10 years and a great player drafted in 2010 that plays for 10 years would always get the nod over the player drafted in 2005 in those decades because he only has 5 years in each decade.

I take the player who has proven he is the most dominating player on the field for four straight years. (1 or 2 can be a fluke, but you don't have four straight fluke years)

With respect to all the others, Ware is the most dominating OLB in the NFL.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Someone please tell this guy (he's just a fan, by the way) that the All-Decade Team is NOT picked by the AP.

It's chosen by the Pro Football Hall of Fame committee.

Exactly... What a dumb ***!

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I just posted a comment regarding that article. I'm sure he'll dispute it but whatever, LOL!

 

[JBond]

Someone please tell this guy (he's just a fan, by the way) that the All-Decade Team is NOT picked by the AP.

It's chosen by the Pro Football Hall of Fame committee.

I can not pretend I knew that but the author clearly should have. His rant looks pretty silly now. If you are going to bash a group of people make damn sure your are correct.

 

[Jarv]

Ha Ha, a Pittsburgh dude gets shunned for once and he's all up in arms. Why didn't he ask why Drew Pearson was not in the HOF like Lynn Swan ?

 

[YosemiteSam]

Someone please tell this guy (he's just a fan, by the way) that the All-Decade Team is NOT picked by the AP.

It's chosen by the Pro Football Hall of Fame committee.

Hmm.. Yes, but the Pro Football Hall of Fame committee *IS* in fact still the media. So, while he got the group's name wrong, he was still clearly referring to the media. While his argument is utterly moronic, the point he was making that the idiotic media shouldn't be picking this group still holds water.

Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection Committee
Arizona	        Kent Somers, Arizona Republic
Atlanta	        Len Pasquarelli, ESPN.com
Baltimore	Scott Garceau, WMAR-TV
Buffalo    	Mark Gaughan, Buffalo News
Carolina	Charles Chandler, Charlotte Observer
Chicago  	Dan Pompei, Chicago Tribune*
Cincinnati	Joe Reedy, Cincinnati Enquirer
Cleveland	Tony Grossi, Cleveland Plain Dealer
Dallas		Rick Gosselin, Dallas Morning News*
Denver		Jeff Legwold, Denver Post
Detroit		Tom Kowalski, Booth Newspapers
Green Bay	Cliff Christl, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Houston		John McClain, Houston Chronicle*
Indianapolis	Mike Chappell, Indianapolis Star
Jacksonville	Sam Kouvaris, WJXT-TV
Kansas City	Bob Gretz, KCFootballReport.com
Miami		Edwin Pope, Miami Herald*
Minnesota	Sid Hartman, The Minneapolis Star-Tribune
New England	Ron Borges, Boston Herald*
New Orleans	Pete Finney, Times-Picayune
New York 	Vinny DiTrani, Bergen Record
New York	Gary Myers, New York Daily News
Oakland		Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange
Philadelphia	Paul Domowitch, Philadelphia Daily News
Pittsburgh	Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
St. Louis	Bernie Miklasz, St. Louis Post-Dispatch
San Diego	Nick Canepa, San Diego Union Tribune
San Francisco	Nancy Gay, AOL Sports/Fanhouse
Seattle		Mike Sando, ESPN.com
Tampa Bay	Ira Kaufman, Tampa Tribune
Tennessee	David Climer, The Tennessean
Washington	David Elfin, Washington Times
PFWA		Alex Marvez, FOXSports.com
At Large	Howard Balzer, The Sports Xchange
At Large	Jarrett Bell, USA Today
At Large	John Clayton, ESPN/ESPN Magazine
At Large	John Czarnecki, FOXSports.com*
At Large	Dave Goldberg, AOL Sports/Fanhouse*
At Large	Peter King, Sports Illustrated
At Large	Ira Miller, The Sports Xchange*	 
At Large	Len Shapiro, Miami Herald*	 
At Large	Vito Stellino, Florida Times Union	 
At Large	Jim Trotter, Sports Illustrated	 
At Large	Charean Williams, Ft. Worth Star Telegram

 

[Hoofbite]

You agree with the author? Holy cow dude. I find agreement with morons to be unpalatable, and he is a moron.

By the way, I guarantee you that I can find people on previous all decade teams who have the same level of experience as Ware. Like I said, talent matters more.

I don't agree with him. His argument seems to be primarily numbers based. Is that a result of having a longer career? Sure, but not the same as attributing credit for longevity.

And I don't care that you can find people on previous decades teams. I'm not railing against Ware so that is irrelevant. Absolutely 100% a fan of the dude. I guess if I had a problem it would be with the selection standard.

I think longevity is a variable worth consideration.

 

[burmafrd]

Break down the stats per year if you are going to compare guys who played 8 vs one who played 5. Using overall stats is a lawyer tactic (only tell part of the story, the part that supports your arguement)

 

[TheHustler]

Anyone who has already registered on that site, can you ask the author, who is so found of the defensive player of the year award, who selects the ASSOCIATED PRESS Defensive Player of the Year Award?

So the AP is full of idiots when it comes to selecting pro-bowls/all-pros/all-decades, but the defensive player of the year award, chosen by the AP, is what marks a great player?

 

[HoosierCowboy]

Ware should be on it and Sanders should have won the defensive player of the year.

 

[28 Joker]

You know you've hit it big when they attack you and try to discredit you.

I wonder if Ware being a Cowboys player influenced this guy's opinion.

Hmmm...

 

[AdamJT13]

Hmm.. Yes, but the Pro Football Hall of Fame committee *IS* in fact still the media. So, while he got the group's name wrong, he was still clearly referring to the media.

Lots of people are part of the media. That doesn't make the AP responsible for what they all do.

 

[RCowboyFan]

I don't agree with him. His argument seems to be primarily numbers based. Is that a result of having a longer career? Sure, but not the same as attributing credit for longevity.

And I don't care that you can find people on previous decades teams. I'm not railing against Ware so that is irrelevant. Absolutely 100% a fan of the dude. I guess if I had a problem it would be with the selection standard.

I think longevity is a variable worth consideration.

Ok, talk to Gale Sayers voters, who voted him to Pro-bowl about lengetivity. its not just about Logetivity. Its impact on the game. YOu want to vote Vinny Testerverde into HOF because of Longetivity and and lots of stats?

You are making a really weak or foolish argument on that. Logetivity only matters when onfield performance also matches it. Ala, like a Farve, who at least dominated few years he was in league.

Now in 2000s there were other Dominating OLB in the league than Ware, then,there would be a case. I bet you cannot name a OLB, who offenses game planned every week, and every year, like Ware was since about mid 2005 or so. IF Shawn Merriman produced at the rate he did his first two years, maybe he would have been the guy. But he didn't.

 

[cowboys#1]

:bang2: how do these people get passed mental exams. **** Philly and pittsburg.

the irony

 

[Cover 2]

Ok, talk to Gale Sayers voters, who voted him to Pro-bowl about lengetivity. its not just about Logetivity. Its impact on the game. YOu want to vote Vinny Testerverde into HOF because of Longetivity and and lots of stats?

You are making a really weak or foolish argument on that. Logetivity only matters when onfield performance also matches it. Ala, like a Farve, who at least dominated few years he was in league.

Now in 2000s there were other Dominating OLB in the league than Ware, then,there would be a case. I bet you cannot name a OLB, who offenses game planned every week, and every year, like Ware was since about mid 2005 or so. IF Shawn Merriman produced at the rate he did his first two years, maybe he would have been the guy. But he didn't.

The only outside linebacker he named that could even be considered to be close to Ware is Derrick Brooks, but I still think Ware is better.

 

[Hostile]

I don't agree with him. His argument seems to be primarily numbers based. Is that a result of having a longer career? Sure, but not the same as attributing credit for longevity.

And I don't care that you can find people on previous decades teams. I'm not railing against Ware so that is irrelevant. Absolutely 100% a fan of the dude. I guess if I had a problem it would be with the selection standard.

I think longevity is a variable worth consideration.

Oh brother.

I will leave it at that even though I would love to say more.