Deone Walker or Mason Graham at DT

[darthseinfeld]

These both look they could be possibly go top 10.

Graham has been steady his whole career and can be a catalytic DT in the 3 gap, while also being able to anchor in the 1 gap. Big DT at about 320

Deone is a physical beast who had great splash production as a sophmore ( 7.5 sacks, 13 TFL). It hasn't been nearly as good this year, but teams are really keying on him. Like Graham, you can play him in both a 3 gap and a 1 gap and he could penetrate or anchor.

With the way the season is going, if they go DT they could very well have the DT of their choosing. Which of these two players do you prefer

 

[Parcells4Life]

Walker. Physical behemoth that’s shown production and no more Michigan DL.

 

[Cowboyny]

This team has had bad success taking Michigan Defensive Lineman, but you never scout the helmet. Personally, I like Walker a little better, but it is really splitting hairs between the two.

Don't rule out taking another offensive, skilled positional player as this franchise also values them higher.

 

[cnuball21]

I like Walker but he is not a top 20 player…let alone top 10.

 

[Cowboyny]

I like Walker but he is not a top 20 player…let alone top 10.

We have an entire offseason, players always rise.

 

[cnuball21]

We have an entire offseason, players always rise.

Or fall…


He’s currently at 23 on the consensus big board. I think cracking the top 10 is highly unlikely.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I like Walker but he is not a top 20 player…let alone top 10.

To me it comes down to how you see him as a penetrator on the next level. I think he can more of the player he was in 2023 when he hits the pro's. He is basically being forced to one gap this year with amount of attention he is getting.

With Graham, people compare him to Brown. I can see it, but I think Graham might wind up the better player

 

[darthseinfeld]

This team has had bad success taking Michigan Defensive Lineman, but you never scout the helmet. Personally, I like Walker a little better, but it is really splitting hairs between the two.

Don't rule out taking another offensive, skilled positional player as this franchise also values them higher.

Id take either UM DT on our roster next years. Maybe DT depth pushes Grant to the early 2nd. He is a better prospect than Mazi was

 

[gtb1943]

To me it comes down to how you see him as a penetrator on the next level. I think he can more of the player he was in 2023 when he hits the pro's. He is basically being forced to one gap this year with amount of attention he is getting.

With Graham, people compare him to Brown. I can see it, but I think Graham might wind up the better player

Graham has the most proven ability but Walkers potential is what intrigues me as well as his nasty streak

 

[cnuball21]

To me it comes down to how you see him as a penetrator on the next level. I think he can more of the player he was in 2023 when he hits the pro's. He is basically being forced to one gap this year with amount of attention he is getting.

With Graham, people compare him to Brown. I can see it, but I think Graham might wind up the better player

We’ll see…guys that big usually aren’t athletic enough to be good pass rushers. I don’t see it but I’ll change my tune down the stretch if the draft guys I trust say otherwise.

 

[Cowboyny]

Id take either UM DT on our roster next years. Maybe DT depth pushes Grant to the early 2nd. He is a better prospect than Mazi was

I agree.

 

[Cowboyny]

Or fall…


He’s currently at 23 on the consensus big board. I think cracking the top 10 is highly unlikely.

He is suppose to test real well for a player that size. He is a better prospect then Jordan Davis in my opinion.

 

[cnuball21]

He is suppose to test real well for a player that size. He is a better prospect then Jordan Davis in my opinion.

Probably…but Davis never should’ve been taken that early. Not even in the 1st.

 

[Cowboyny]

Probably…but Davis never should’ve been taken that early. Not even in the 1st.

I think he should of been a late 1st rounder. Walker does have some rush abilities, he isn't a zero like Davis in that area, he also isn't surrounded by elite talent like Davis had as well.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Don't rule out taking another offensive, skilled positional player as this franchise also values them higher.

DT in the top 5? That's not a Jerry-type move. In fact, who was the last DT draft with the top 5 pick? But the value of the position has changed over the past few years, so it's def possible.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Probably…but Davis never should’ve been taken that early. Not even in the 1st.

Davis was all projection outside of anchoring. He showed no penetrative ability at UG, but his insane athleticism tantalized scouts and made them think it was something that could be unlocked. They have been wrong. Walker has already shown the ability to be disruptive. To me he is a significantly better prospect than Davis was

 

[darthseinfeld]

In fact, who was the last DT draft with the top 5 pick?

Quinnen Williams

 

[Cowboyny]

DT in the top 5? That's not a Jerry-type move. In fact, who was the last DT draft with the top 5 pick? But the value of the position has changed over the past few years, so it's def possible.

That what I am saying, they might chose the flashy offensive player over the boring trench player. This is the year, they almost "have to" draft a DT. The good ones come off the board in the hurry, the others take long, developmental time. Sickening when you see a player like McNeil finally developed and we took Golston, Osa in that same range.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

That what I am saying, they might chose the flashy offensive player over the boring trench player. This is the year, they almost "have to" draft a DT. The good ones come off the board in the hurry, the others take long, developmental time. Sickening when you see a player like McNeil finally developed and we took Golston, Osa in that same range.

So many issues.....this is why I want Belichick. He can streamline this team, especially the D. Get rid of a lot of dead weight and fat....

 

[darthseinfeld]

That what I am saying, they might chose the flashy offensive player over the boring trench player. This is the year, they almost "have to" draft a DT. The good ones come off the board in the hurry, the others take long, developmental time. Sickening when you see a player like McNeil finally developed and we took Golston, Osa in that same range.

I think Hunter is the only flash as high as they will likely pick. And honestly he would be a home run pick.

Jeanty if they are outside the top 5.

Both are legit candidates. Outside those two possibilities, I think it would most likely be edge, DT or OT.