Deone Walker or Mason Graham at DT

Which DT do you prefer


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beware_d-ware

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Graham and it's not close. Two years of production, and he's got unbelievable strength to go along with quickness. I just don't see how he fails in the NFL.

Walker deserves to be a first-round pick based on the Planet Theory alone, but he's still a raw player. He's 340 lbs and still has a poor anchor because he plays with poor pad level. His game is actually more like jumbo-sized 3 tech - it's all first step and hand fighting. And again, 340 lb men with the burst to do that are rare, but NFL guards can move a 340 lb man out of a gap no problem if they can get under him. We see it every weekend with Mazi.

Bleacher Report's scouting report comps Graham to Christian Wilkins, and I love that. He's maybe one step below Derrick Brown in terms of raw power, but they both chew up double teams like Chips Ahoy. And he's got a slasher element to his game that Brown never had. I think that's Wilkins to a tee.

Walker could be Dexter Lawrence, as a 340 lb DT impossible pass-rush skills for his size, or he could be Mazi. Some team will take that gamble early, but you don't do it with Graham still on the board.

The guy who intrigues me is Graham's running made, Kenneth Grant. He's another 330 lb Michigan "project" NT, which will make Cowboys fans wince, but he's already a better prospect than Mazi was. Dude has already put up 2 productive seasons, and Mazi put up literally zero. I'd guess that Grant goes in the 20-40 range when it's all said and done, and I'd rather take a chance on him there than on Walker at say #10.
 
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According to Brugler there is a very sharp decline of talent in this draft and the # may be lower than 8 elite prospects.


It also is how you define elite as well. I also agree there are not that many.
 

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Graham and it's not close. Two years of production, and he's got unbelievable strength to go along with quickness. I just don't see how he fails in the NFL.

Walker deserves to be a first-round pick based on the Planet Theory alone, but he's still a raw player. He's 340 lbs and still has a poor anchor because he plays with poor pad level. His game is actually more like jumbo-sized 3 tech - it's all first step and hand fighting. And again, 340 lb men with the burst to do that are rare, but NFL guards can move a 340 lb man out of a gap no problem if they can get under him. We see it every weekend with Mazi.

Bleacher Report's scouting report comps Graham to Christian Wilkins, and I love that. He's maybe one step below Derrick Brown in terms of raw power, but they both chew up double teams like Chips Ahoy. And he's got a slasher element to his game that Brown never had. I think that's Wilkins to a tee.

Walker could be Dexter Lawrence, as a 340 lb DT impossible pass-rush skills for his size, or he could be Mazi. Some team will take that gamble, but you don't do it with Graham still on the board.

The guy who intrigues me is Graham's running made, Kenneth Grant. He's another 330 lb Michigan "project" NT, which will make Cowboys fans wince, but he's already a better prospect than Mazi was. Dude has put up 2 productive seasons, and Mazi put up literally zero.
Walker loves to play football and Mazi does not
you missed that clear difference
 

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Graham and it's not close. Two years of production, and he's got unbelievable strength to go along with quickness. I just don't see how he fails in the NFL.

Walker deserves to be a first-round pick based on the Planet Theory alone, but he's still a raw player. He's 340 lbs and still has a poor anchor because he plays with poor pad level. His game is actually more like jumbo-sized 3 tech - it's all first step and hand fighting. And again, 340 lb men with the burst to do that are rare, but NFL guards can move a 340 lb man out of a gap no problem if they can get under him. We see it every weekend with Mazi.

Bleacher Report's scouting report comps Graham to Christian Wilkins, and I love that. He's maybe one step below Derrick Brown in terms of raw power, but they both chew up double teams like Chips Ahoy. And he's got a slasher element to his game that Brown never had. I think that's Wilkins to a tee.

Walker could be Dexter Lawrence, as a 340 lb DT impossible pass-rush skills for his size, or he could be Mazi. Some team will take that gamble early, but you don't do it with Graham still on the board.

The guy who intrigues me is Graham's running made, Kenneth Grant. He's another 330 lb Michigan "project" NT, which will make Cowboys fans wince, but he's already a better prospect than Mazi was. Dude has already put up 2 productive seasons, and Mazi put up literally zero. I'd guess that Grant goes in the 20-40 range when it's all said and done, and I'd rather take a chance on him there than on Walker at say #10.
If Graham’s scouting report remains strong and he’s still a consensus top 6/7 ish player he’s going to be a top target for me.

Jalen Carter is an incredibly lofty comp - but you see a bit of that in him.

I think Grants more of a run clogger that has a longer ways to go as a pass rusher but still a darn good prospect.
 

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I think he should have been a late 1st rounder. Walker does have some rush abilities, he isn't a zero like Davis in that area, he also isn't surrounded by elite talent like Davis had as well.
Davis was highly coveted by elite defensive line drafting teams. If the Eagles didn’t draft him Baltimore would have. If these linemen are better than Davis, the Cowboys need to grab one of them. Do they have Dexter Lawrence potential?
 
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