Derrick Henry

[mattjames2010]

The limited touches thing is a poor excuse. Before last season DeMarco Murray received limited touches and he didn't average less than 4 ypc like Ingram did. Felix Jones used to get limited touches and he didn't struggle to get 4 ypc as Ingram does. There really is nothing to keep up with here. The standards have to be greatly lowered for Mark Ingram to be considered doing "pretty well" at the NFL level.

You know what "pretty well" means, right? Let's just start there.

As for Felix Jones, his numbers were always inflated when he was in the change of pace role, a lot like Randles. Long runs here and there throughout the season propped up his YPC while he was nothing special on other runs, this was especially true in 2009.

Demarco Murray never had "limited touches" - every time he was healthy, we fed him the ball. He was the absolute #1 for us, he was never part of a RBBC. Your "limited touches" is coming from his seasons being cut short with injuries. When Murray truly had "limited touches" at the beginning of 2011, guess what he averaged? Yep, below 4 YPC.

Mark Ingram is a player that needs to be fed the ball, a player that gets stronger as the game goes on. He has played "pretty well" under the circumstances New Orleans puts him in. Ingram simply doesn't fit that offense, he earned a new contract with them when they utilized him correctly.

 

[BAT]

He's pretty much a Steven Jackson clone, which is the exact player he compares himself to.

This guy is a monster RB and would be perfect behind our line.

He may want to be like Jackson, doesn't make it so. Jackson was more explosive, had more wiggle and finished runs with a flourish. Steven Jackson was beast mode before Marshawn Lynch. Henry is a big back with good speed at college level, but likes to break it outside too much IMO. Not fast enough to do that in NFL so must adjust game.

 

[mattjames2010]

He may want to be like Jackson, doesn't make it so. Jackson was more explosive, had more wiggle and finished runs with a flourish. Steven Jackson was beast mode before Marshawn Lynch. Henry is a big back with good speed at college level, but likes to break it outside too much IMO. Not fast enough to do that in NFL so must adjust game.

It's not only him comparing himself to Jackson. Jackson wasn't "explosive", he didn't have open field burst, he played more as a bruiser in the open field than anything else. Not saying Jackson was slow, but he wasn't "explosive".

And Henry runs between the tackles just as much as he goes to the outside.

 

[BAT]

It's not only him comparing himself to Jackson. Jackson wasn't "explosive", he didn't have open field burst, he played more as a bruiser in the open field than anything else. Not saying Jackson was slow, but he wasn't "explosive".

And Henry runs between the tackles just as much as he goes to the outside.

I think you don't remember Jackson's early career with the Rams or even his time at Oregon State. Jackson set record at Oregon State for all purpose yards, rushing, receiving and returning. Jackson also broke Rams franchise rushing record held by Dickerson. Jackson was explosive, just because he was huge for a RB, 6'2 240, he could run like a deer when he needed to with a 4.45 40 at the combine and a vert of just under 38". Steven Jackson was an explosive runner as well as finisher.

Ask Linehan.

 

[mattjames2010]

I think you don't remember Jackson's early career with the Rams or even his time at Oregon State. Jackson set record at Oregon State for all purpose yards, rushing, receiving and returning. Jackson also broke Rams franchise rushing record held by Dickerson. Jackson was explosive, just because he was huge for a RB, 6'2 240, he could run like a deer when he needed to with a 4.45 40 at the combine and a vert of just under 38". Steven Jackson was an explosive runner as well as finisher.

Ask Linehan.

Jackson has been one of my favorite players in the league since he was drafted. I remember him well, "explosive" is not a term I use for Jackson in the open field. You're saying a guy who had a high of 10 20+ yard runs his entire career was "explosive"? He was never explosive, unless you are using some different definition than me.

 

[BAT]

Jackson has been one of my favorite players in the league since he was drafted. I remember him well, "explosive" is not a term I use for Jackson in the open field. You're saying a guy who had a high of 10 20+ yard runs his entire career was "explosive"? He was never explosive, unless you are using some different definition than me.

Like I said talk to Linehan. In Jackson's early years he was a playmaker who cold outrun or run thru defenders, either as a rusher or a receiver. Henry could only wish he had a career as good as Jackson, and Jackson was not just the better playmaker he was more explosive player. By the way, vert is a good measure of explosiveness.

 

[KDM256]

Derrick Henry has the most rushing yards in high school history with: 12,124 yards and 153TDs.. The knock on this kid was he's doing it against weak competition in his hometown of Yulee, Florida and would probably switch to linebacker at the next level.

Well Derrick Henry enrolls at Alabama and he's still putting up great numbers. This year alone, Henry has 1,044 yards on just 180 carries with 14 scores. He has 2,416 yards rushing and 28 touchdowns in his career (splitting carries between Yeldon last 2 years & Drake this year)

Kid runs a legit 4.5 40 and I've never seen him caught from behind during his time at Bama. People might not like his running style or the simple fact that he's 6'3 but you can't deny his body of work at the playing level he's experience thus far. The kid has been lights out at every level and silencing critics in the process.

This kid is an absolute freak and his workout routine is ridiculous and if Dallas is in a position to take Henry in the 1st round, you best to believe you pull a trigger and snatch him up.

 

[StylisticS]

I prefer Devontae Booker to Henry.

 

[Hardline]

Alabama's Derrick Henry is a physical freak, squats 500 pounds with ease


http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...-pounds-lifting-alabama-running-back-rb-video

 

[IAmLegend]

^Impressive, but 500 lb squats should be expected from NFL RB's tbh. A lot of guys in college can do that. Some in high school too.

 

[Vinnie2u]

I know Gurley has had early success.. but I still wouldn't take any RB in the first..

 

[TheCoolFan]

He's starting to dominate now!

 

[IAmLegend]

He's starting to dominate now!

Great performance by him tonight. No doubt about it. 38 carries for 210 yards and 3 TD's is impressive.

Give Bama's O-Line a ton of credit though. They were opening up HUGE holes all night for him. He followed their lead.

 

[tyke1doe]

I think I'd still take Elliott over Henry. I think Henry won't be as elusive and will get stopped in the backfield or at the line of scrimmage more often at the next level.
Still, he may be the perfect fit for the Dallas offensive line.

 

[mattjames2010]

47 rushes, 271 yards and 1 TD tonight.

This guy is a workhorse. We may be picking too high to have a chance to grab him though.

 

[ghst187]

I tend to generally believe in college programs' ability to make a successful pro at a certain position....which is why I wouldn't draft a RB from Wisc or Alabama.

 

[IAmLegend]

As I stated before, I think Henry is a talented back, but I think his numbers are definitely inflated by Bama's dominant O-Line. Every time I watch them, they're controlling the LOS and creating huge holes for Henry. He often doesn't get touched until he's 5+ yards down the field.

Plus, 6'4 RB's tend to not last long in the league. They're prone to big hits and due to his size, Henry's not very agile or particularly fast. Pretty much a power North/South runner only.

Would much rather have Zeke or Alex Collins if we're going RB in the first 2 rounds. They have much better speed than Henry and their style of running is built to last in the NFL.

 

[texbumthelife]

If this guy doesn't sit/split with Yeldon, he probably goes down as one of, if not the most dominant running back in college history. His production has been that good.

That said, I still take Elliot over Henry if given a shot at both. I think his athleticism and change of direction ability not only give him a higher margin for error, but also a shorter learning curve and a better chance at a long career. I can see Henry being Ron Dayne at the next level and I don't mean that as a slight. I respect what he's done.

 

[mattjames2010]

 

[BlueNSilver88]

no thanks