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VirusX said:
Lol your clueless. Crown there is a BIG difference between a QB and a LB coming into the NFL number one, 99% of the GM's and Headcoaches could give a **** less that he doesnt wrap up because they are looking for "Football Players" bottom line the guy can play and thats why there are defensive specialists to teach them how to tackle.

DJ has GREAT football awareness and Superb instincts tackling will come with coaching and its one of the easiest things to work on..

Clueless eh? We'll see. Again, I have not labelled him a future bust. But the poster I was responding to demanded that I look only at his accomplishments and not his techniques. If accomplishments were a tell-all, Ron Dayne would be the league's leading rusher.

The point is, the player who has terrific instincts and is a "football player" also has major technical deficiencies that should have been addressed much sooner than now. "Football players" know the fundamental techniques of their positions.....
 
Crown Royal said:
Because Kingsbury isn't lighting it up for a team.....pretty simple.
Well that's kinda hard to do when your sitting behind Aaron Brooks. Ya think!
 
bsheeern said:
Well that's kinda hard to do when your sitting behind Aaron Brooks. Ya think!

So why hasn't 2003's most prolific passer beaten out a non-pro bowl QB?

Let's use another example - Ty Detmer, one of the best college QBs ever. He sure did do well in the NFL....college performance or not.
 
Crown Royal said:
Clueless eh? We'll see. Again, I have not labelled him a future bust. But the poster I was responding to demanded that I look only at his accomplishments and not his techniques. If accomplishments were a tell-all, Ron Dayne would be the league's leading rusher.

The point is, the player who has terrific instincts and is a "football player" also has major technical deficiencies that should have been addressed much sooner than now. "Football players" know the fundamental techniques of their positions.....
Wrong again buddy, I never said his accomplishments were tell all, I said your knocking his accomplishments because you don't like his technigue. Huge difference in that and Ron Dayne or Kliff K, your missing the point. DJ is a LB who makes plays, not a rb who runs through a hole or a QB who hits a wide open WR. He tackles and covers. You can't compare a RB and a QB to a LB. What your saying is what people were saying about Peyton Manning. He won't be that good because he doesn't release the ball in a typical NFL style motion.
 
bsheeern said:
Wrong again buddy, I never said his accomplishments were tell all, I said your knocking his accomplishments because you don't like his technigue. Huge difference in that and Ron Dayne or Kliff K, your missing the point. DJ is a LB who makes plays, not a rb who runs through a hole or a QB who hits a wide open WR. He tackles and covers. You can't compare a RB and a QB to a LB. What your saying is what people were saying about Peyton Manning. He won't be that good because he doesn't release the ball in a typical NFL style motion.

I never knocked his accomplishments. And I'm not your buddy. And it is a valid comparison - their skills didn't translate into the pros, and I think that DJ's skills might not either.

He does make plays, IN COLLEGE. But you simply cannot afford to dive at feet, something that resembles a CB's tackling style, especially the CBs who avoid tackling. I feel that his lack of technique at this stage brings serious question to his ability to be a good NFL LBer.
 
Crown Royal said:
I never knocked his accomplishments. And I'm not your buddy. And it is a valid comparison - their skills didn't translate into the pros, and I think that DJ's skills might not either.

He does make plays, IN COLLEGE. But you simply cannot afford to dive at feet, something that resembles a CB's tackling style, especially the CBs who avoid tackling. I feel that his lack of technique at this stage brings serious question to his ability to be a good NFL LBer.
Yeah just like all the guys who said that you can't release the ball from the spot that Peyton Manning does because It will get knocked down by all the D-lineman. Give me a break man! Your far from a tackling expert or a scout and for you to say that his "tactics" won't work in the NFL is an ignorant statement based simply on the fact that you have no earthly idea! I guess next you'll tell me that Adrian Peterson isn't an NFL back. Looked like it worked against him!!!!
 
Crown Royal said:
Wow. he sure is good at diving at players feet. Reminds me of Deion Sanders - what a great tackler he was.

>cough< safety >cough<
This sounds like a clear knock on his accomplishments!
 
bsheeern said:
This sounds like a clear knock on his accomplishments!

Newp - that's a knock on his tackling technique. His accomplishments are terrific.
 
bsheeern said:
Yeah just like all the guys who said that you can't release the ball from the spot that Peyton Manning does because It will get knocked down by all the D-lineman. Give me a break man! Your far from a tackling expert or a scout and for you to say that his "tactics" won't work in the NFL is an ignorant statement based simply on the fact that you have no earthly idea! I guess next you'll tell me that Adrian Peterson isn't an NFL back. Looked like it worked against him!!!!

I don't have to be a tackling expert to see that he doesn't have good technique. He dives at players feet. That doesn't work. Sorry if you disagree.

Why is it an ignorant statement? I said what I saw - and it brings him into question. Now you are saying that I am ignorant and have no earthly idea. Terrific logic there.

Adrian Peterson looks good. I have 2 more years to evaluate. I will reserve any judgment there until he is ELIGIBLE to be drafted.
 
Anyone we pick in the 1st round, I have faith in. Parcells has a proven track record of picking up LB's and D linemen, so I'm pretty sure we'll get that done. All the pats important players on that defense, Bruschi, Vrabel, Slade, McGinnest, Ted Johnson..He's just a good talent evaluator, so if we do end up picking DJ, theres probably a good reason. He's perfect in the 4-3, and im sure with that athletisicm he can be tought to wreak havoc off the blitz.

Think of this front 7
Ellis, Glover, Fergi, Pollack, Nguyen, James, and DJ/Merriman

I think James has his breakout this year.
 
Billy Bullocks said:
Anyone we pick in the 1st round, I have faith in. Parcells has a proven track record of picking up LB's and D linemen, so I'm pretty sure we'll get that done. All the pats important players on that defense, Bruschi, Vrabel, Slade, McGinnest, Ted Johnson..He's just a good talent evaluator, so if we do end up picking DJ, theres probably a good reason. He's perfect in the 4-3, and im sure with that athletisicm he can be tought to wreak havoc off the blitz.

Think of this front 7
Ellis, Glover, Fergi, Pollack, Nguyen, James, and DJ/Merriman

I think James has his breakout this year.

I love Pollack. I t would love to see him. If we committed to staying in the 4-3, I would love both him and DJ. I think DJ has skills to be a good WLB. But if we eventually moved to 3-4, I think he would have trouble finding a place....
 
Crown Royal said:
I don't have to be a tackling expert to see that he doesn't have good technique. He dives at players feet. That doesn't work. Sorry if you disagree.

Why is it an ignorant statement? I said what I saw - and it brings him into question. Now you are saying that I am ignorant and have no earthly idea. Terrific logic there.

Adrian Peterson looks good. I have 2 more years to evaluate. I will reserve any judgment there until he is ELIGIBLE to be drafted.
It sounds to me your judging him only on the video and not the whole picture. He is a very good tackler with good techinque. Head first at point of contact. We have a guy on our team that is very good at tackling guys from the legs down. He play MLB.
 
bsheeern said:
It sounds to me your judging him only on the video and not the whole picture. He is a very good tackler with good techinque. Head first at point of contact. We have a guy on our team that is very good at tackling guys from the legs down. He play MLB.

Actually I am the son of a die-hard UT fan. I have been watching him for some time. That is my assessment of him....

As for Dat Nguyen, his tackling ability has always been solid. He gets good pad level and wraps up. he doesn't dive at the ankles of a runner and hope to take out his legs.
 
Crown Royal said:
Actually I am the son of a die-hard UT fan. I have been watching him for some time. That is my assessment of him....

As for Dat Nguyen, his tackling ability has always been solid. He gets good pad level and wraps up. he doesn't dive at the ankles of a runner and hope to take out his legs.

Its pointless. Unless you proclaim DJ the best thing since sliced bread, all the UT fans will hate you, question your intelligence and call you a Horn Hater.

The fact that every major scouting agency lists DJ's tackling and ability to shed blocks as negatives, I would say that it probably is an issue. That highlight video didn't help matters any. I saw a player with great range and speed, but one who showed terrible form in almost every tackle.
 
Crown Royal said:
IAnd I'm not your buddy. A
Testy are we?

Dj can be taught how to tackle, but you can't teach his size, speed, isnticts, and swiftness.
 
Tio said:
Testy are we?

Dj can be taught how to tackle, but you can't teach his size, speed, isnticts, and swiftness.

In this thread I have been called, directly or indirectly, clueless, an "*** idiot," and ignorant. Yes, I am getting testy.

Maybe he can be taught to tackle. I don't know. I am rather concerned that he doesn't already know how to - I like LBers to be physical when necessary, and his tackling style seems soft. I think he has ability, but he will need to improve big time in this area.
 
Crown Royal said:
In this thread I have been called, directly or indirectly, clueless, an "*** idiot," and ignorant. Yes, I am getting testy.

Maybe he can be taught to tackle. I don't know. I am rather concerned that he doesn't already know how to - I like LBers to be physical when necessary, and his tackling style seems soft. I think he has ability, but he will need to improve big time in this area.

After reading this thread, I applaude your restraint.
 
Crown Royal said:
In this thread I have been called, directly or indirectly, clueless, an "*** idiot," and ignorant. Yes, I am getting testy.

Maybe he can be taught to tackle. I don't know. I am rather concerned that he doesn't already know how to - I like LBers to be physical when necessary, and his tackling style seems soft. I think he has ability, but he will need to improve big time in this area.
Read the thread, you were right. Anyway, mack brown hasn't exactly been known to get all the talent out of his recruits.
 
DJ projects to be a very good weak side outside linebacker. good coverage linebacker.

we need a pass rusher. Spears, Ware/Merriman Pool
 

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