DE's Dallas prefers

as long as he can get after the qb I dont care who it is.

this may rile some posters but I also am fed up if our rush scheme. too often 4 guys are rushing jnto 3 lanes, all within 4 yards if each other, all it does is clog up space
 
stilltheguru88 said:
Nope. He's slow as molasses
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Solomon Thomas can play on the Dline anywhere. Did not know he was that slow. His film hides his lack of speed. He is getting lots of media hype now that the main season is down.
 
I can think of three pass rushers from Bama that they should draft and about 10 from the SEC.
 
RS12 said:
Cowboys have scouted two UCLA games that we know of. Hint hint.
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I dont think McKinley will be there when we are on the board. Luckily in a deep class he probably wont get out of tradr up range. Wouldnt cry one bit if we traded up for McKinley
 
Edge rusher: Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic; Chris Odom, Arkansas State

There was a lot of talk before and during the season about the dominant pass-rushers on the college football powerhouses, but the Group of Five also featured some terrific edge rushers. Not only did Hendrickson lead all 4-3 defensive ends with 78 total pressures, he was also the most efficient as he recorded these on 299 pass rushing snaps, leading to a pass rushing productivity score of 20.3, the best figure in college football. While Odom only had the second-most sacks on his own team, he made up for it with additional quarterback hits and hurries, as well as some stout run defense
 
I would love nothing more than if Myles Garrett fell to the Cowboys. No ****** way it happens, but Darshan Hall should be available late 1st round (pro day and combine depending of coutse)
 
The Realist said:
He's slightly more athletic than Jack Crawford. Pass.
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I see something more than Crawford, still raw I admit. Picking in the thirties we will have some warts with whomever we choose. Appreciate your opinion.
 
Macnalty said:
I see something more than Crawford, still raw I admit. Picking in the thirties we will have some warts with whomever we choose. Appreciate your opinion.
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We need a DE with speed and athleticism off the edge who can consistently beat OT's and pressure the QB. That's not Thomas. He looks like what we already have. Try hard, strength, push the the pocket guys with some quickness but not twitchy off the edge. Actually looks like he might grow into a 3 technique. I think we'll be shopping for WDE's, not guys who project most likely to SDE's in a 4-3. Guys like McKinley, Harris, Landry, Barnett. Although they might be decent on the strong side I'd disappointed in guys like Taco and Solomon. Walker would be an exception for me at SDE because I think he has a chance to be very good.
 
The Realist said:
We need a DE with speed and athleticism off the edge who can consistently beat OT's and pressure the QB. That's not Thomas. He looks like what we already have. Try hard, strength, push the the pocket guys with some quickness but not twitchy off the edge. Actually looks like he might grow into a 3 technique. I think we'll be shopping for WDE's, not guys who project most likely to SDE's in a 4-3. Guys like McKinley, Harris, Landry, Barnett. Although they might be decent on the strong side I'd disappointed in guys like Taco and Solomon. Walker would be an exception for me at SDE because I think he has a chance to be very good.
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I agree. I'm starting to see Solomon Thomas labeled as a DL not a DE on sites now. A strong side DE can be had in later rounds. I'm hoping we can draft a WDE like Landry or Harris in the 1st and take Hunter Dimick in the 3rd to develop at SDE. Hes very good at defending the run and he has enough quickness and pass rush moves to be a problem for large and lumbering RT's. Most likely a 6 sack a season type player but will have tons of TFL's and QB pressures.
 
The Realist said:
We need a DE with speed and athleticism off the edge who can consistently beat OT's and pressure the QB. That's not Thomas. He looks like what we already have. Try hard, strength, push the the pocket guys with some quickness but not twitchy off the edge. Actually looks like he might grow into a 3 technique. I think we'll be shopping for WDE's, not guys who project most likely to SDE's in a 4-3. Guys like McKinley, Harris, Landry, Barnett. Although they might be decent on the strong side I'd disappointed in guys like Taco and Solomon. Walker would be an exception for me at SDE because I think he has a chance to be very good.
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I think that's Marinelli's type. He wants bull rushers who hold their lanes. He doesn't seem to want bend around the corner speed guys. I miss Ware, but I think Marinelli picks Spears over Ware.
 
Iago33 said:
I think that's Marinelli's type. He wants bull rushers who hold their lanes. He doesn't seem to want bend around the corner speed guys. I miss Ware, but I think Marinelli picks Spears over Ware.
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Marinelli likes players who are versatile enough to play multiple positions but at WDE he wants a 6'3" 265lb blazer off the edge and athletic DT with an explosive 1st step at the 3 tech.
 
Iago33 said:
I think that's Marinelli's type. He wants bull rushers who hold their lanes. He doesn't seem to want bend around the corner speed guys. I miss Ware, but I think Marinelli picks Spears over Ware.
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That's not the case at all. That's just what we have cuz none of the guys we wanted fell to us, or we chose to select someone at another position who we felt graded higher (Jaylon Smith vs Noah Spence).

For all the coaches that came out of that Tampa scheme it has always been about speed, burst, get up the field, turn the corner on the DL. Which is why we don't place a premium on one technique DT's unless you can find that rare guy who can rush the passer and stay on the field on third down vs just being a two down run stuffer. Simeon Rice, Warren Sapp in Tampa (among others), Peppers, Allen and others in Chicago (I can't remember all their speed rushers in the Lovie Smith era), Dwight Freeney and the little dude on the other side in Indy, etc, etc.

Slow, plodding DE/DL have no role in Matinelli's scheme unless he is left with no choice. Guys like the Molasses Brothers, Jack and Tyrone are a have to, not a want to.
 
I am not in disagreement with what Coach M wants, that talent does not lie in the late twenties or early thirties. Thomas can play a variety of different positions along the defensive line and is a devastating run-stopper who can also rush the passer, Thomas is not a classic bender. The comparison to Jack Crawford is truthful but not accurate.


IMO these guys will be off the menu by the time the Boys get a selection and Thomas starts looking like a viable candidate.

Myles Garrett, EDGE, Texas A&M
Charles Harris, EDGE, Mizzou
Derek Barnett, EDGE, Tennessee
Takkarist McKinley, EDGE, UCLA
Carl Lawson, EDGE, Auburn
Tim Williams, EDGE, Alabama

Leaving us this available talent to choose from:

  1. Harold Landry Not as big as he plays, an arsenal of moves and speed to burn.
  2. Jordan Willis Can play either the left or right side in a 4-3.
  3. Dawuane Smoot His size probably limits him to a 3-4 OLB. Very fast, dangerous.
  4. Ejuan Price small for a DE, he knows how to get after the QB
  5. Demarcus Walker
  6. Ryan Anderson Junk yard dog out there, disrupting everything in his path.
  7. Hassan Reddick
  8. Solomon Thomas Stanford
  9. Taco Charlton moving up the boards
  10. Josh Carraway speed rusher and sack artist at TCU
  11. Sam Hubbard Ohio State
  12. Daeshon Hall out of Texas A&M
  13. Tyquan Lewis Ohio State
  14. Chris Wormley Michigan
  15. Carroll Phillips Illinois
  16. Hunter Dimick Utah
  17. Deatrich Wise Jr Arkansas played at Carrollton HS
 
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