Dez and Ro

[Sportsbabe]

Thank Erod, I enjoyed the read.

I'll disagree with you, though, that there is a huge dissimilarity between the two players. What I see is two athletes who go about the business of professional football differently. Nothing more. One has the desirable personality from a fan/ownership/management perspective and the other does not. I neither hate the players nor like them.

Where I definitely agree is that I'd love to see McClain get smacked in the nads and sent packing while Dez is welcomed back (with open arms) into the fold like the biblical Prodigal Son.

I disagree with almost everything he said because there is no point of fact just speculation and assumption ... which he has the right, but my problem is that people will see this on the internet and take it as the Absolute Truth.

I believe it's irresponsible to make character and personal conclusions about people we haven't spent 2 hours in a room with nonetheless 24 hours. All we can go on (as far as their character and personal relationships) is what the people who have personal interactions with them say about them. OScan said today he was talking to Ro constantly and knew all along he was going to show up. And Dez is getting better and better the more he matures as reiterated on several occasions by Tony.

I sometimes don't get social media. "Get smacked in the nads." I guess it's a figure of speech huh? I wonder what DefRo would think about that?

 

[Sportsbabe]

Stopped reading after the initial diagnosis of who Dez is as a person and his intelligence.

The rest of your post is a skyscraper built on a shaky foundation.

I though it was just me. I try not to be "self righteous" but whether behind the keyboard or in person ... I try to be the same person you see/hear at all times. I would NEVER say some of the things I'm reading about these 2 guys that I have never met and admire what they do and bring to the Dallas Cowboys ... my Dallas Cowboys.

 

[Sportsbabe]

So you guys are saying we let go a few stud LBs knowing Ro would not last for mental reason?

I got a psychologist/psychiatrist smart-A remark in me somewhere but it won't come out because of my lack of mental fortitude. What a headcase I can be sometimes.

 

[jday]

Rolando McClain is the polar opposite of Dez Bryant.

Ro is a bright guy and a freakishly good athlete by utter default. He can make an impact on Sunday almost by sheer accident. He has an intuitive grasp of the game, and he can flip a switch by choice and play well on Sunday almost on queue. He's the kid in school with the photographic memory and good looks.

Not Dez. He struggles with the nuances of football. He needs constant direction and guidance regarding the X's and O's and much of life in general. He's simply not as self-aware and self-confident in things most folks take for granted as basic, common knowledge. He's the kid that brings teachers to their last nerve trying to push through the system.

So how is it that Dez became the soul of this football team?

Ro doesn't love football. It's merely a temporary and necessary evil. He doesn't cherish the locker room, or bother with building relationships with teammates and coaches. He doesn't take pride in being an NFL player, and he doesn't consider it any great privilege. He feels no responsibility or obligation to be any more than a Sunday player for a paycheck.

Dez would willingly practice or play a game 365 days a year. He is the constant you never question come game time, and ironically, his infectious passion brings consistency and calmness to this team that his cerebral side can't. How special is that?

Dez is showboat to the world, yet a humble servant to his team. He truly listens and relies on Romo, he appreciates Garrett's fatherly guidance, and Jerry's genuine tough love. (That's why these negotiations confuse and hurt him so much. This is his closest family.)

I often wish the Ro's were like Dez, and the Dez's were like Ro. Both are puzzles wrapped in enigmas hidden in riddles. Frustratingly mesmerizing players.

But give me the Dez's all day. Not because he's great, but because he cares. About winning, about the game, about his team, and even about us. I've been truly won over by the guy after not being so much on his side early on.

Likewise, I think it's time to send Ro packing. Or, I guess just tell him to not bother packing, as it were.

Don't need his fuss, his bad moods, or his condescending arrogance toward the opportunities afforded him and the people that want to embrace him. He doesn't care, and I don't care about people who don't care.

Mike Fisher said something that is gnawing at me, and I trust his inside knowledge even if I don't share many of his views. He said that the coaches didn't really want McClain back, but the front office went ahead and signed him anyway to the veteran minimum. The coaches didn't want him back? If you just go by his performances, why would a coach possibly not want that guy back? Coaches are pros at dealing with all sorts of personalities. You'd think a talent like that would earn extra consideration and patience. But it didn't.

From Tuesday to Saturday, Fish added, McClain is completely checked out. Not interested in the work week leading up to Sunday. Offseasons are much the same. That tells me that once that youthful body starts to leave him, he'll be done in a flash. He won't do anything about it. He won't care.

Somewhere in Alabama, Ro is rehabbing a knee. I suspect his offseason football thought could be condensed within the time frame of a Sponge Bob episode. He's not doing a damn football thing. We all know he's dreading training camp and wants no part of it, and his sour attitude will be hanging over camp like soggy cereal.

Meanwhile, Dez is in sheer panic that a deal won't get done and he'll have to miss camp to make a statement. I don't think he can do it, and neither does he. Miss football practice? On purpose? Are you $%^#$%^ kidding me? Dez is flat freaking out right now over that nightmare scenario.

I really hope Dez eases off his demands enough and gets his deal by July 15th. We all want to celebrate with him. We all want to be happy for him. We all know that he wants to play his ever-loving tail off for all of us. We hurt with him, as do the Joneses, I imagine. Please make the business stuff hurry and go away. Make him understand, so we can get this done and ease his suffering.

It's like watching your kid get a booster shot while they're looking at you with tears in their eyes. You want to punch the nurse in the face even though she's doing the right thing.

As for Ro? I really don't care anymore. Just go away and leave us alone.

It was a good read, but I think you may be taking some leap's in terms of knowing who Ro is and his motivations.

 

[Jstopper]

Rolando McClain is the polar opposite of Dez Bryant.

Ro is a bright guy and a freakishly good athlete by utter default. He can make an impact on Sunday almost by sheer accident. He has an intuitive grasp of the game, and he can flip a switch by choice and play well on Sunday almost on queue. He's the kid in school with the photographic memory and good looks.

Not Dez. He struggles with the nuances of football. He needs constant direction and guidance regarding the X's and O's and much of life in general. He's simply not as self-aware and self-confident in things most folks take for granted as basic, common knowledge. He's the kid that brings teachers to their last nerve trying to push through the system.

So how is it that Dez became the soul of this football team?

Ro doesn't love football. It's merely a temporary and necessary evil. He doesn't cherish the locker room, or bother with building relationships with teammates and coaches. He doesn't take pride in being an NFL player, and he doesn't consider it any great privilege. He feels no responsibility or obligation to be any more than a Sunday player for a paycheck.

Dez would willingly practice or play a game 365 days a year. He is the constant you never question come game time, and ironically, his infectious passion brings consistency and calmness to this team that his cerebral side can't. How special is that?

Dez is showboat to the world, yet a humble servant to his team. He truly listens and relies on Romo, he appreciates Garrett's fatherly guidance, and Jerry's genuine tough love. (That's why these negotiations confuse and hurt him so much. This is his closest family.)

I often wish the Ro's were like Dez, and the Dez's were like Ro. Both are puzzles wrapped in enigmas hidden in riddles. Frustratingly mesmerizing players.

But give me the Dez's all day. Not because he's great, but because he cares. About winning, about the game, about his team, and even about us. I've been truly won over by the guy after not being so much on his side early on.

Likewise, I think it's time to send Ro packing. Or, I guess just tell him to not bother packing, as it were.

Don't need his fuss, his bad moods, or his condescending arrogance toward the opportunities afforded him and the people that want to embrace him. He doesn't care, and I don't care about people who don't care.

Mike Fisher said something that is gnawing at me, and I trust his inside knowledge even if I don't share many of his views. He said that the coaches didn't really want McClain back, but the front office went ahead and signed him anyway to the veteran minimum. The coaches didn't want him back? If you just go by his performances, why would a coach possibly not want that guy back? Coaches are pros at dealing with all sorts of personalities. You'd think a talent like that would earn extra consideration and patience. But it didn't.

From Tuesday to Saturday, Fish added, McClain is completely checked out. Not interested in the work week leading up to Sunday. Offseasons are much the same. That tells me that once that youthful body starts to leave him, he'll be done in a flash. He won't do anything about it. He won't care.

Somewhere in Alabama, Ro is rehabbing a knee. I suspect his offseason football thought could be condensed within the time frame of a Sponge Bob episode. He's not doing a damn football thing. We all know he's dreading training camp and wants no part of it, and his sour attitude will be hanging over camp like soggy cereal.

Meanwhile, Dez is in sheer panic that a deal won't get done and he'll have to miss camp to make a statement. I don't think he can do it, and neither does he. Miss football practice? On purpose? Are you $%^#$%^ kidding me? Dez is flat freaking out right now over that nightmare scenario.

I really hope Dez eases off his demands enough and gets his deal by July 15th. We all want to celebrate with him. We all want to be happy for him. We all know that he wants to play his ever-loving tail off for all of us. We hurt with him, as do the Joneses, I imagine. Please make the business stuff hurry and go away. Make him understand, so we can get this done and ease his suffering.

It's like watching your kid get a booster shot while they're looking at you with tears in their eyes. You want to punch the nurse in the face even though she's doing the right thing.

As for Ro? I really don't care anymore. Just go away and leave us alone.

You're making huge assumptions about Ro and his character and I can't take them as facts especially when some of them go against reports about him.

 

[erod]

You're making huge assumptions about Ro and his character and I can't take them as facts especially when some of them go against reports about him.

How much more evidence do you need?

And I didn't attack his character as much as I simply said he doesn't really care about football.

 

[erod]

I'd like you to show where it's been documented recently that Dez is this immature hoodlum who lacks common sense and doesn't understand the nuance of the wide receiver position.

If this were 2011? I'd have to agree. But unfortunately for your premise it's not.

Never called Dez a hoodlum. Certainly didn't mean to insinuate him to be a bad guy at all. In fact, if you read it all, I think I'm basically holding him in about as much esteem as anyone on the Cowboys roster.

You look at his background and how he's taken his maturation process head on since he was drafted by Dallas. He is the exception to almost every rule in that essence; almost nobody turns their life around like he has.

Romo and Garrett have worked with him, and he's soaked it up like a sponge. He still struggles with the nuance to a degree, but dang it if he doesn't just out-work whatever obstacle or aspect of the game that lies in front of him. Tireless in that regard.

I was highly skeptical about him three years ago, but he's won me over. I am a fan, a big fan. He's a good kid with a huge heart and a genuine desire to be not just a great player, but a great teammate. I don't know if I can give higher praise than that.

In terms of Ro, he just doesn't like football that much, and I don't think he likes being around people or taking directions from any type of authority figure. No crime in that, but it sours the stew in the locker room. He's good on Sundays most often, but according to Fisher and his sources, Tuesday through Friday he couldn't be less interested in football.

 

[visionary]

Glad to hear he's here. But will he stay and engage?

This team has HUGE aspirations this year. If he's not fully on board, then get him out of the way of the guys that are.

FYI

"Here" = more engaged than "not here"

Getting tired of hearing how much Dez "loves" the team from posters who have no idea

 

[BigD_95]

Rolando McClain is the polar opposite of Dez Bryant.

Ro is a bright guy and a freakishly good athlete by utter default. He can make an impact on Sunday almost by sheer accident. He has an intuitive grasp of the game, and he can flip a switch by choice and play well on Sunday almost on queue. He's the kid in school with the photographic memory and good looks.

Not Dez. He struggles with the nuances of football. He needs constant direction and guidance regarding the X's and O's and much of life in general. He's simply not as self-aware and self-confident in things most folks take for granted as basic, common knowledge. He's the kid that brings teachers to their last nerve trying to push through the system.

So how is it that Dez became the soul of this football team?

Ro doesn't love football. It's merely a temporary and necessary evil. He doesn't cherish the locker room, or bother with building relationships with teammates and coaches. He doesn't take pride in being an NFL player, and he doesn't consider it any great privilege. He feels no responsibility or obligation to be any more than a Sunday player for a paycheck.

Dez would willingly practice or play a game 365 days a year. He is the constant you never question come game time, and ironically, his infectious passion brings consistency and calmness to this team that his cerebral side can't. How special is that?

Dez is showboat to the world, yet a humble servant to his team. He truly listens and relies on Romo, he appreciates Garrett's fatherly guidance, and Jerry's genuine tough love. (That's why these negotiations confuse and hurt him so much. This is his closest family.)

I often wish the Ro's were like Dez, and the Dez's were like Ro. Both are puzzles wrapped in enigmas hidden in riddles. Frustratingly mesmerizing players.

But give me the Dez's all day. Not because he's great, but because he cares. About winning, about the game, about his team, and even about us. I've been truly won over by the guy after not being so much on his side early on.

Likewise, I think it's time to send Ro packing. Or, I guess just tell him to not bother packing, as it were.

Don't need his fuss, his bad moods, or his condescending arrogance toward the opportunities afforded him and the people that want to embrace him. He doesn't care, and I don't care about people who don't care.

Mike Fisher said something that is gnawing at me, and I trust his inside knowledge even if I don't share many of his views. He said that the coaches didn't really want McClain back, but the front office went ahead and signed him anyway to the veteran minimum. The coaches didn't want him back? If you just go by his performances, why would a coach possibly not want that guy back? Coaches are pros at dealing with all sorts of personalities. You'd think a talent like that would earn extra consideration and patience. But it didn't.

From Tuesday to Saturday, Fish added, McClain is completely checked out. Not interested in the work week leading up to Sunday. Offseasons are much the same. That tells me that once that youthful body starts to leave him, he'll be done in a flash. He won't do anything about it. He won't care.

Somewhere in Alabama, Ro is rehabbing a knee. I suspect his offseason football thought could be condensed within the time frame of a Sponge Bob episode. He's not doing a damn football thing. We all know he's dreading training camp and wants no part of it, and his sour attitude will be hanging over camp like soggy cereal.

Meanwhile, Dez is in sheer panic that a deal won't get done and he'll have to miss camp to make a statement. I don't think he can do it, and neither does he. Miss football practice? On purpose? Are you $%^#$%^ kidding me? Dez is flat freaking out right now over that nightmare scenario.

I really hope Dez eases off his demands enough and gets his deal by July 15th. We all want to celebrate with him. We all want to be happy for him. We all know that he wants to play his ever-loving tail off for all of us. We hurt with him, as do the Joneses, I imagine. Please make the business stuff hurry and go away. Make him understand, so we can get this done and ease his suffering.

It's like watching your kid get a booster shot while they're looking at you with tears in their eyes. You want to punch the nurse in the face even though she's doing the right thing.

As for Ro? I really don't care anymore. Just go away and leave us alone.

Do you know these guys on a personal level? A lot of matter of facts in there. Sounds like you are inside the mind of these guys.

 

[tyke1doe]

I though it was just me. I try not to be "self righteous" but whether behind the keyboard or in person ... I try to be the same person you see/hear at all times. I would NEVER say some of the things I'm reading about these 2 guys that I have never met and admire what they do and bring to the Dallas Cowboys ... my Dallas Cowboys.

Having been in the newspaper business, I see it from both sides. I've run into celebrities who have glowing public reputations, but based on my interaction with them, they're shallow and selfish individuals. And I've run into those who the media have tortured because they don't like them for whatever reason.
On the other hand, sometimes people's reputation is what people say it is.

But I think your policy is sound. If you don't know a person, sometimes it's good to see the best in them instead of the worst. That may be more the type person you are Sportsbabe. I'm more of a cynic so I tend to believe certain reports, especially if you get the same reports over and over again.

But I like that about you. We need people like you in our world to balance people like me. We need people who look for the best in others instead of immediately believing the worst.

Thanks for being who you are.

 

[erod]

FYI

"Here" = more engaged than "not here"

Getting tired of hearing how much Dez "loves" the team from posters who have no idea

Isn't it obvious how much Dez loves playing here with this team?

 

[erod]

Having been in the newspaper business, I see it from both sides. I've run into celebrities who have glowing public reputations, but based on my interaction with them, they're shallow and selfish individuals. And I've run into those who the media have tortured because they don't like them for whatever reason.
On the other hand, sometimes people's reputation is what people say it is.

But I think your policy is sound. If you don't know a person, sometimes it's good to see the best in them instead of the worst. That may be more the type person you are Sportsbabe. I'm more of a cynic so I tend to believe certain reports, especially if you get the same reports over and over again.

But I like that about you. We need people like you in our world to balance people like me. We need people who look for the best in others instead of immediately believing the worst.

Thanks for being who you are.

I agree with all that. I guess I'm trying to figure out where I impugned anyone here beyond a football basis.

One guy loves everything about football. The other guy doesn't care about it much at all. Both are incredible talents.

That's why one is going to make at least $12 million, and the other is on the veteran minimum.

 

[tyke1doe]

I agree with all that. I guess I'm trying to figure out where I impugned anyone here beyond a football basis.

One guy loves everything about football. The other guy doesn't care about it much at all. Both are incredible talents.

That's why one is going to make at least $12 million, and the other is on the veteran minimum.

I wasn't directly my comments towards you. I was more complimenting @Sportsbabe.
I don't have any problems with your opinion. I offer my opinions also and often they're based on not personally knowing people but judging their actions based on second-hand reports.

But I've noticed Sportsbabe's "personality" here in this forum, and she's been pretty consistent in her opinions and attitudes about people. And I like that about her.

I didn't mean my post to be a commentary on your post at all. I'm glad you're at least trying to stimulate conversation. That's what this board is all about.

 

[erod]

I wasn't directly my comments towards you. I was more complimenting @Sportsbabe.
I don't have any problems with your opinion. I offer my opinions also and often they're based on not personally knowing people but judging their actions based on second-hand reports.

But I've noticed Sportsbabe's "personality" here in this forum, and she's been pretty consistent in her opinions and attitudes about people. And I like that about her.

I didn't mean my post to be a commentary on your post at all. I'm glad you're at least trying to stimulate conversation. That's what this board is all about.

Yes, I certainly respect her approach. These cats are so highly visible and publicized, I don't worry too much about going off my impressions. I'm not going to make any real difference anyway in that regard.

These two players are pretty open book, in my opinion, in terms of reading who they basically are as committed football players or not.

 

[Sportsbabe]

Having been in the newspaper business, I see it from both sides. I've run into celebrities who have glowing public reputations, but based on my interaction with them, they're shallow and selfish individuals. And I've run into those who the media have tortured because they don't like them for whatever reason.
On the other hand, sometimes people's reputation is what people say it is.

But I think your policy is sound. If you don't know a person, sometimes it's good to see the best in them instead of the worst. That may be more the type person you are Sportsbabe. I'm more of a cynic so I tend to believe certain reports, especially if you get the same reports over and over again.

But I like that about you. We need people like you in our world to balance people like me. We need people who look for the best in others instead of immediately believing the worst.

Thanks for being who you are.

Thanks...I'll respond later to your thoughtful post. At work right now.

 

[Sportsbabe]

I wasn't directly my comments towards you. I was more complimenting @Sportsbabe.
I don't have any problems with your opinion. I offer my opinions also and often they're based on not personally knowing people but judging their actions based on second-hand reports.

But I've noticed Sportsbabe's "personality" here in this forum, and she's been pretty consistent in her opinions and attitudes about people. And I like that about her.

I didn't mean my post to be a commentary on your post at all. I'm glad you're at least trying to stimulate conversation. That's what this board is all about.

I like how you can engage, differ, without being contentious. Plus... you have more data on me than most. We go waaaay back to the uncivilized message boards. Thank God for The Zone ;-)

 

[Sportsbabe]

Yes, I certainly respect her approach. These cats are so highly visible and publicized, I don't worry too much about going off my impressions. I'm not going to make any real difference anyway in that regard.

These two players are pretty open book, in my opinion, in terms of reading who they basically are as committed football players or not.

I appreciate the kind words.... But 2 principles I TRY to live by is 1) consider if I was in that man/woman's shoes; 2) think on those things that are true, lovely, honest and of good report.

Everybody can agree that they want to be given a fair shake. Those are just the kind of things I like. That's why I love The way Garrett is developing his guys. Giving them every opportunity to succeed.

 

[Sportsbabe]

“He’s an inspirational player,’’ Jones said of McClain. “He’s probably as good of natural football player as we’ve had and that’s saying a lot.

“When you’re watching that tape after Sunday (games) and you see that whole thing cave back the other way, about four or five bodies going back the way they came, then you get a lot of Ro in there and that’s a good thing. He’s excellent.”

I guess Jerry Jones plans on keeping him around. And what Jerry wants Jerry gets.

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[erod]

“He’s an inspirational player,’’ Jones said of McClain. “He’s probably as good of natural football player as we’ve had and that’s saying a lot.

“When you’re watching that tape after Sunday (games) and you see that whole thing cave back the other way, about four or five bodies going back the way they came, then you get a lot of Ro in there and that’s a good thing. He’s excellent.”

I guess Jerry Jones plans on keeping him around. And what Jerry wants Jerry gets.

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***.../?hootPostID=a3602bb2074bb540d7141b55885254cf

Jerry sees what we see. The coaches see the rest.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

None of us personally know these people anyways. Who are we to judge the intelligence or personality of a person who is in reality a complete stranger.

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