News: Dez Back at Practice Today; Dez practice tweets added

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Heres a counter for you. 73 targets 43 receptions for 561 yards and 6 touchdowns. Those are his stats with Jon Kitna. Give or take a few yards in that season when Romo went down. So....you were saying?

Fine, get Kitna back on the team and I'll get excited.
 

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Sorry, wrong stats. 27 completions on 44 attempts for 350 yards and 5 touchdowns. Those are pretty good stats without Romo in my opinion. So there is your counter. Your move sir

Are you still on the Kitna wagon? It's 2015, sir.
 

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Are you still on the Kitna wagon? It's 2015, sir.

Yes, 2015 and our run game clicked. Why dont you check out matt cassels stats when he had an elite number 1. 66 receptions for 122 attempts 958 yards and 11 TDs. Those are his numbers to Moss. Again, id say your move. But your agenda is showing.
 

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Yes, 2015 and our run game clicked. Why dont you check out matt cassels stats when he had an elite number 1. 66 receptions for 122 attempts 958 yards and 11 TDs. Those are his numbers to Moss. Again, id say your move. But your agenda is showing.

Agenda? Please explain to me my agenda because I'm just expressing my opinion based on the facts as they exist now, not in the past. Cassel has had some success in previous seasons. His record is undeniable but so is his INT tendencies nowadays.
 

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Agenda? Please explain to me my agenda because I'm just expressing my opinion based on the facts as they exist now, not in the past. Cassel has had some success in previous seasons. His record is undeniable but so is his INT tendencies nowadays.

You are basically saying we have no hope until Romo comes back. Meaning lack of trust in the coaches, our team, our defense, and our offense without him. I agree losing Romo was the biggest loss of the season. What im saying is, Dez coming back gives Cassel a legitmate target in the red zone. Something this team hasnt had since Dez went down. Id much rather a Cassel type player who takes risks over a Weeden player who checks down on every single play because hes scared to get picked off. If dez played against the Giants, Cassel would have only had the 1 pick in the endzone because that was a horrible throw, other than that, the first one on the comeback dez would have at least fought for and most likely have broken up. His wingspan alone would have gotten in the way of the ball and stopped DRC. Just be happy one of our leaders is back, and dont be surprised if just his demeanor alone wins us this game.
 

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News flash... Kitna and Orton aren't on this team. You got the INT machine named Matt Cassel as your QB. What do you not get about that? That's not blaming Dez, either. Romo's return is the only cure for this team.

So what Dez isn't going to catch a single pass?
 

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You are basically saying we have no hope until Romo comes back. Meaning lack of trust in the coaches, our team, our defense, and our offense without him.

You should have stopped with your first sentence and I'd agree. We are talking about the difference Dez's return will make to our team. I've said he will make no difference until Romo returns because of my lack of trust in Cassel. That's where my lack of trust begins and ends. Saying that is a lack of trust in anything else is simply false.


I agree losing Romo was the biggest loss of the season. What im saying is, Dez coming back gives Cassel a legitmate target in the red zone. Something this team hasnt had since Dez went down. Id much rather a Cassel type player who takes risks over a Weeden player who checks down on every single play because hes scared to get picked off.

Yes, Dez coming back gives Cassel a legit target in the red zone. I challenge him to capitalize on this advantage. I doubt he can translate that to a win. Cassel > Weeden we are not in disagreement about.


If dez played against the Giants, Cassel would have only had the 1 pick in the endzone because that was a horrible throw, other than that, the first one on the comeback dez would have at least fought for and most likely have broken up. His wingspan alone would have gotten in the way of the ball and stopped DRC. Just be happy one of our leaders is back, and dont be surprised if just his demeanor alone wins us this game.

That is pure speculation on your behalf that can neither me proven or disproven. We'll never know what the result may have been had Dez played against Dez. My speculation is, he would have hurt himself again and missed even more games.
 

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Where did I make that point? I'm saying he won't make difference that gives the Cowboys a win.

If he catches a pass he makes a difference and gives the Cowboys a chance to win. The pass could be a first down a TD or a 3rd down conversion on a TD drive to win the game. Yes Dez being out there makes a difference in helping the team win.
 

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If he catches a pass he makes a difference and gives the Cowboys a chance to win. The pass could be a first down a TD or a 3rd down conversion on a TD drive to win the game. Yes Dez being out there makes a difference in helping the team win.

I never argued the point he will not get a few completions. Are you just being disagreeable for the sake of being disagreeable? Listen to my argument and counter it directly without inferring I've said anything else. Without Romo, Dez being on the field will not get the Cowboys a win.
 

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I never argued the point he will not get a few completions. Are you just being disagreeable for the sake of being disagreeable? Listen to my argument and counter it directly without inferring I've said anything else. Without Romo, Dez being on the field will not get the Cowboys a win.

No your argument isn't even legitimate. Are you making this odd argument to get attention? Because that's how it's coming off. To say that Dez being on the field will not get the Cowboys a win is just asinine and a very simplistic way to view things. Anyone can make a straw man argument like that, your point is because Cassell is throwing the ball it makes no difference, and that's just ridiculous. Dez will help this team win even with Cassell as Cassell has proven he can win in this league. To say otherwise is just being unrealistic, and proves you're just out to get attention. You've been losing this argument throughout this whole thread and you keep going with it.

People have countered and offered up responses and you being stubborn or you're just seeking attention. But you keep saying the same thing over and over, and no matter how many times you say it won't make it fact.
 

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No your argument isn't even legitimate. Are you making this odd argument to get attention? Because that's how it's coming off. To say that Dez being on the field will not get the Cowboys a win is just asinine and a very simplistic way to view things. Anyone can make a straw man argument like that, your point is because Cassell is throwing the ball it makes no difference, and that's just ridiculous. Dez will help this team win even with Cassell as Cassell has proven he can win in this league. To say otherwise is just being unrealistic, and proves you're just out to get attention. You've been losing this argument throughout this whole thread and you keep going with it.

People have countered and offered up responses and you being stubborn or you're just seeking attention. But you keep saying the same thing over and over, and no matter how many times you say it won't make it fact.

You are scoring no points on this debate by countering with pejoratives and no content to counter the argument. I will be happy to be wrong about Cassel's ability to take advantage of having Dez on the field. It remains to be seen.
 

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You are scoring no points on this debate by countering with pejoratives and no content to counter the argument. I will be happy to be wrong about Cassel's ability to take advantage of having Dez on the field. It remains to be seen.

I'm sorry I didn't know we were keeping score.
 

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I'm sorry I didn't know we were keeping score.

You certainly seem to have appointed yourself the scorekeeper. I expressed an opinion about the difference Dez will make. You can agree or disagree and on Sunday we'll see you was right. Why make it an attack on each other?
 

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You certainly seem to have appointed yourself the scorekeeper. I expressed an opinion about the difference Dez will make. You can agree or disagree and on Sunday we'll see you was right. Why make it an attack on each other?

I'm not arguing to be "right". Oh for **** sake forget it. Pointless discussion
 

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I'm not arguing to be "right". Oh for **** sake forget it. Pointless discussion

If you aren't arguing to be right then it must be what I've already stated... arguing for the sake arguing. Mission accomplished and lost, good job! :thumbup:
 

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If you aren't arguing to be right then it must be what I've already stated... arguing for the sake arguing. Mission accomplished and lost, good job! :thumbup:

I didn't lose anything your point of view is a sinking ship! You're the only one in this whole thread with this view. Enjoy the island by yourself. :clap:
 
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