Dez Bryant's Fundamentals

[Blackrain]

Yup. And they'd bench his bum if he lollygagged. He'd be a completely different player in NE.

Dez would never be picked up by NE Belichick dosent take on mentally challenged players let alone guys who hear footsteps . Look at the catches Amendola made today at the end of the game Dez drops everyone or dosent secure it to the ground or his pinky would be out of bounds trying to break his fall or some other bull crap that would make us loose .

 

[Whyjerry]

He doesn’t have them.

He is a player that dominated off physical talent and didn’t Hone his craft.

Now that his body isn’t what it once was, he isn’t as effective.

This is a 100 pct correct. I would add that he is hampered by a very low IQ.

 

[kskboys]

Dez’a best skill is pouting on the sidelines and then dropping balls.

Word is he got a new gig on New Year's Eve!!!!!!

 

[Verdict]

Guys and Gals i did not start this thread to Hate on Dez So please do not take it there I beg !

Honestly i am a huge Dez fan i have his jersey and through the good times and the bad i still support him 100%

But i have been wondering about a few things and watching Dez differently this year since i watched Chris Carters new morning show. For the record i am not a huge CC fan in fact i lean to more to disliking his higher then mighty attitude like he knows everything.

BUT

His skills as a receiver, hands, route running, Redzone ability deserve respect. So i found his opinion relevant when it came to analyzing Dez. So forgive me but earlier during the season i think it was against the Rams ( not sure of the team but i remember the play like it was yesterday) The ball went through Dez's Hands and was intercepted. He was coming from left to right on the route and his hands were seperated right hand on top instead of left hand behind right hand underneath.

The next day i turned on CC show and he broke down the play and explained the problems with Dez's hand placement and how his lack of fundamentals led to an easy pick. If his hands were turned properly one of his hands should have acted like a backstop so even if he dropped it, the interception would not have happened. After i watched this show i started watching Dez differently for the rest of the season.

We all know his heart and emotion is 2nd to none but then i watch after he catches a ball, he doesn't secure it properly look at the seattle game when it was punched out. I have no problem with the extra effort he gives but i found myself praying he didn't fumble when he was trying for the extra yards all the time.

It amazes me that after as many years as he has been in the league his route tree is not more developed. His speed and size is what it is but you can still perfect the intangibles like hand placement, ball security, route running ( Witten Slow as heck but he is always open why not take some lessons ) the fact that after zeke's suspension and some other suspensions Dez said he let some things effect him outside the game. IMO that should not be the case with as many years as you have been in the league.

I guess what i am asking do the coaches not try to perfect and work on Dez's Fundamentals, or does Dez not care about them.

Don't get me wrong he makes spectacular plays and is a beast in the redzone but how much better could he be OR could have been earlier in his career ( He was good LOL but could it have been better ) had he perfected his craft or continued to perfect it.

I really think a guy like CC could be a good WR coach from a knowledge standpoint not sure about how he would gel from a personal standpoint. I doubt he would ever leave his cushy job now and it is probably to late at this point for dez at his age but guys like Beasley, williams , Switzer Etc for that matter hire Jerry Rice LOL

What do you think is this a lack of coaching or Dez's issue

Welcome to the band wagon. @xwalker this is your bat signal.

 

[Verdict]

I thought Dez's lack of fundamentals was known.

Glaring.

 

[Verdict]

If Dez was in NE they would be doing pick routes constantly to get him in space for sure and he would be really dangerous

Dez doesn't know which end is up.

 

[Verdict]

Dez like every player on the offense had a down year. Some of it was on the players (ie his drops are on him) but coaching to me is the larger issue. I felt like our WRs were having to make contested catches constantly because they’re never open. If it was one guy having those issues I’d say it’s the guy, but all the WR struggled this year with getting open. That’s scheme

Dez has experienced three down years in a row.

 

[DallasDomination]

People think dez is dumb and doesn't work on the fundamentals. Are you guys kidding me?

It's the coaching staffs job to design plays to maximize their players potential. If Dez is running go routes all game it's because he was told to not because he doesn't know how to go in motion or break his route depending on coverage.

All this dez hate is ridiculous to me. Just because Dak isn't Romo and the offense is terrible I'm not gonna sit here and say he's washed up.

 

[Verdict]

People think dez is dumb and doesn't work on the fundamentals. Are you guys kidding me?

It's the coaching staffs job to design plays to maximize their players potential. If Dez is running go routes all game it's because he was told to not because he doesn't know how to go in motion or break his route depending on coverage.

All this dez hate is ridiculous to me. Just because Dak isn't Romo and the offense is terrible I'm not gonna sit here and say he's washed up.

It's really pretty amazing that he hasn't learned anything in his entire time with the Cowboys.

 

[Jinxx13x]

People think dez is dumb and doesn't work on the fundamentals. Are you guys kidding me?

It's the coaching staffs job to design plays to maximize their players potential. If Dez is running go routes all game it's because he was told to not because he doesn't know how to go in motion or break his route depending on coverage.

All this dez hate is ridiculous to me. Just because Dak isn't Romo and the offense is terrible I'm not gonna sit here and say he's washed up.

I never said dez was washed up and i am not hating on Dez I love dez i am asking a simple question about fundamentals ! Thats all i just wanted to have a rational conversation. I think it is perfectly reasonable to ask a simple question about this and if you think it is the coaches who don't address it, wether this is a dez issue, or if you think there is no issue at all ?

 

[Verdict]

I never said dez was washed up and i am not hating on Dez I love dez i am asking a simple question about fundamentals ! Thats all i just wanted to have a rational conversation. I think it is perfectly reasonable to ask a simple question about this and if you think it is the coaches who don't address it, wether this is a dez issue, or if you think there is no issue at all ?

Good post.

 

[DallasDomination]

I never said dez was washed up and i am not hating on Dez I love dez i am asking a simple question about fundamentals ! Thats all i just wanted to have a rational conversation. I think it is perfectly reasonable to ask a simple question about this and if you think it is the coaches who don't address it, wether this is a dez issue, or if you think there is no issue at all ?

No of course you can say there's an issue with Dez himself. But I don't think it's as bad as people think. I think he's a little slower and has had some confidence issues lately. Maybe he's putting a lot of pressure on himself because him and dak aren't quite there. But I strongly disagree with any notion Dez is losing a step or just flat out sucks now.

My issue is that we wouldn't even have this conversations if we were better coached. Dez and Dak for that matter are just not getting the coaching they need to be successul.

 

[Jinxx13x]

No of course you can say there's an issue with Dez himself. But I don't think it's as bad as people think. I think he's a little slower and has had some confidence issues lately. Maybe he's putting a lot of pressure on himself because him and dak aren't quite there. But I strongly disagree with any notion Dez is losing a step or just flat out sucks now.

My issue is that we wouldn't even have this conversations if we were better coached. Dez and Dak for that matter are just not getting the coaching they need to be successul.

So you believe it is a lack of coaching which i would agree partly with but i am curious if the coaches try to correct Dez regarding hand placement or ball security or do they accept that due to the tremdous plays he pulls off from time to time

 

[Verdict]

No of course you can say there's an issue with Dez himself. But I don't think it's as bad as people think. I think he's a little slower and has had some confidence issues lately. Maybe he's putting a lot of pressure on himself because him and dak aren't quite there. But I strongly disagree with any notion Dez is losing a step or just flat out sucks now.

My issue is that we wouldn't even have this conversations if we were better coached. Dez and Dak for that matter are just not getting the coaching they need to be successul.

I think it's worse than many of you think. I think he is done.

 

[Johnny23]

I think it's worse than many of you think. I think he is done.

As Lee Corso would say, "not so fast my friend!" I don't think he's done. Why didn't the WR coach tell him stop the GD stutter step. Dez can and has run good routes. He is capable the entire route tree. The Slant, Dig, Deep out, post, and the post corner, and the corner post are routes he has run effectively throughout his career. That's more than the "three routes" you and your ilk label him as being able to run. This is excluding the Go, and Fade.

The issue is his injuries. I see him just not the same after the foot and knee injuries of 15 & 16. This was his first relatively healthy year in three yrs, and I think this is a make it or break it year. I also think Dooley was an inept coach who is a hinderance instead of a help.

Dez is hesitant coming out of his breaks. I That can be fixed unless he's gone full Mark Lemke and Chuck Knublock and got the eternal yips and is mentally shot.

 

[Verdict]

As Lee Corso would say, "not so fast my friend!" I don't think he's done. Why didn't the WR coach tell him stop the GD stutter step. Dez can and has run good routes. He is capable the entire route tree. The Slant, Dig, Deep out, post, and the post corner, and the corner post are routes he has run effectively throughout his career. That's more than the "three routes" you and your ilk label him as being able to run. This is excluding the Go, and Fade.

The issue is his injuries. I see him just not the same after the foot and knee injuries of 15 & 16. This was his first relatively healthy year in three yrs, and I think this is a make it or break it year. I also think Dooley was an inept coach who is a hinderance instead of a help.

Dez is hesitant coming out of his breaks. I That can be fixed unless he's gone full Mark Lemke and Chuck Knublock and got the eternal yips and is mentally shot.

I'll be waiting for you on the Dez sucks band wagon. Come on over whenever it suits you. Take your time. The band wagon is big enough for all to climb aboard.

 

[Johnny23]

I'll be waiting for you on the Dez sucks band wagon. Come on over whenever it suits you. Take your time. The band wagon is big enough for all to climb aboard.

I like being my own man and trusting what I see from all-22 and the games. I see a guy who is struggling with his confidence more than a guy who is shot. I am more than willing to admit that he's been way off the mark the past three seasons but I am willing to wait and see if he can turn it around in 2018. Either way I am not going to get too riled up over it. Some players lose it sooner than others. It is what it is.

 

[buybuydandavis]

In 16 Dak didn’t force those balls as much.

In 2016, the coaches were probably trying to keep the reads as simple as possible for Dak. Lots of quick throws. Get the ball out of his hands. Once he became a Pro Bowl QB, Garrett gives him the Romo treatment in 2017. Carry the damn offense.

2010 we couldn't do squat on offense. Romo goes down, we put in Kitna, and the offense has life. Like Dak in 2016, Kitna just got the ball out of his hands.

Garrett does better with his Romo Gone Down offense than his We Got Our QB offense.

 

[Cowpolk]

This is a 100 pct correct. I would add that he is hampered by a very low IQ.

False

 

[jay94]

People think dez is dumb and doesn't work on the fundamentals. Are you guys kidding me?

It's the coaching staffs job to design plays to maximize their players potential. If Dez is running go routes all game it's because he was told to not because he doesn't know how to go in motion or break his route depending on coverage.

All this dez hate is ridiculous to me. Just because Dak isn't Romo and the offense is terrible I'm not gonna sit here and say he's washed up.

Did you not see him drop about every contested pass this year? Usually I would say a contested pass is tough, but with Dez's skillset about every pass is going to be contested, and for getting 16.5 mil, he has to be WAY better. I've always thought he was better than Alshon Jeffrey, but after this year I may have to go back and reevaluate.

I've hated on Dez this year on the Cowboys forums, but that was more due to the media overhyping our talent, I'm tired of it, our last 25 years is what it IS. Were mediocre and Dez is part of that.