Dez catch

[MarcusRock]

Him throwing it to Beasley wasnt a guaranteed completion and to his credit, he made a perfect throw to the best player on the team.

You are speaking as if it was a forgone conclusion that he completes that pass to beasley AND we still end up scoring a Td.

I agree. The pass from Romo was perfect. They had done it in preseason that same year. All Dez has to do is secure the ball and go down.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Did you even see the picture I showed you to convince you the ball touched the ground when you didn't even know before today? How do you even call that a TD when you're down before the goal line and roll over into it?

Again, show me where the official didn't rule going to the ground but didn't see the ball touch the ground. He would have been correct with those optics. But if replay shows the ball hit the ground then you reverse it all under the umbrella of going to the ground. Pretty simple stuff.

Yes I see the picture. It shows a runner down by contact. I also already said I forgot about that picture but have seen it before so it's not some gotcha.

The official ruled that because if he did not, it is a touchdown because the ball is bobbled. If the ref does not see the ball touch the ground, it is either a catch and down by contact (ruled) or a TD because possession wasn't complete until the player was in the endzone. They can't go back and undo the ruling of possession and down by contact because they see the ball hit the ground after the fact. It doesn't matter, because they've already ruled that the player was a runner and not GTTG.

 

[MarcusRock]

Yes I see the picture. It shows a runner down by contact. I also already said I forgot about that picture but have seen it before so it's not some gotcha.

The official ruled that because if he did not, it is a touchdown because the ball is bobbled. If the ref does not see the ball touch the ground, it is either a catch and down by contact (ruled) or a TD because possession wasn't complete until the player was in the endzone. They can't go back and undo the ruling of possession and down by contact because they see the ball hit the ground after the fact. It doesn't matter, because they've already ruled that the player was a runner and not GTTG.

You can't be touched by a defender, come down in the field of play with you and the ball hitting the ground and then play hot potato with the football to gain more yards. You're literally making spit up on the fly. Lol. Whether he ruled upright and a catch or GTTG and a catch, the ball is down at the 1. You don't get rollover hot potato football yards after being touched down, lol.

Again, show me where the on-field official didn't rule GTTG but didn't see the ball touch. 3rd or 4th time asking. I have a meeting now but you will answer this time, right?

 

[DFWJC]

Marcos Rock’s favorite topic.

Any thread on this and gets amazingly thrilled to make 50 posts on why it wasn’t a catch.

Honestly, I’ve never anything like it in this forum

Like clockwork

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

You can't be touched by a defender, come down in the field of play with you and the ball hitting the ground and then play hot potato with the football to gain more yards. You're literally making spit up on the fly. Lol. Whether he ruled upright and a catch or GTTG and a catch, the ball is down at the 1. You don't get rollover hot potato football yards after being touched down, lol.

Again, show me where the on-field official didn't rule GTTG but didn't see the ball touch. 3rd or 4th time asking. I have a meeting now but you will answer this time, right?

If you don't have possession you are not down - you can hot potato it as far as you want. I'll answer it again. He didn't rule GTTG because if he did, then possession wasn't completed until the player was in the endzone.

The ruling is that the player caught the ball and was down at the half yardline. This means that the play is blown dead at that point, and both the bobble and determination of whether or not the ball touched the ground are irrelevant.

If the ruling is GTTG, then there is no possession at the half yardline and the ball is caught in the endzone. In this case, replay would show that the ball hit the ground and it is incomplete.

The replay overturned a ruling that was not made on the field.

 

[gimmesix]

Appreciate this has been talked about many times before but having watched it again just now it must go down as one of the worst reversals I have ever seen.

Surely when Dez touched the ground with his right elbow then he's down having completed the process of a catch (he had made a football move by taking 2-3 steps after securing the ball).

In any event, I haven't seen any clear and unequivocal footage of the ball touching the ground at any point - part of his arm looked to be under the ball when he went to ground so worst case scenario he has caught the ball in the end zone as Shields didn't mark him down by contact.

People say well Rodgers would have just marched down the field any way - great let's see him do it and it's irrelevant to the above call.

It's still annoying all these years on!

I didn't think there was "indisputable visual evidence" to reverse the call. Dez switched hands with the ball and reached out toward the goal line before hitting the ground and losing control. If the original call had been that it wasn't a catch, I wouldn't have thought that should be overturned, either. It was one of those cases IMO where whatever call was made should have been allowed to stand.

 

[MarcusRock]

Marcos Rock’s favorite topic.

Any thread on this and gets amazingly thrilled to make 50 posts on why it wasn’t a catch.

Honestly, I’ve never anything like it in this forum

Like clockwork

You going to join in or just bark from the porch? Anyone mad at me posting about this knows I'm right and can't oppose it. And at least get my name correct, lol.

 

[Reid1boys]

I was at that game with my daughter. I was so pissed because that was a catch. EVERYBODY knows it was a catch. It was in a HUGE gae, at Lambeau and it would have been given some nickname... the Catch 2 or something, and I was cheated out of that moment. That teams was good enough to make the SB. We went into Seattle when the Seahawks were in the middle of that huge home win streak and the 12th man was all the rage ( Iwas at that game also) and beat them. That was simply a beast athlete with massive desire going up and snatching the ball. And we all were cheated out of a moment.

 

[Blackspider214]

Our best chance to make the NFCCG and probably the SB in the last 29 years. And of all people to win the challenge - the guy who now can't successfully do challenges or manage the clock for the Cowboys.

2007 and 2016 were better chances to me. Set up to play teams we should have beat and got them all at home. 2014, even if we had won, had to go on the road to Seattle the next week. Sure, we beat them there earlier in the season but playoffs always a different animal.

Rodgers blocked our NFC title hopes 2 times in 3 years, both on teams inferior to ours. He beat us on one leg in 2014. Had plenty of chances to bury them and didn't. In 2016, someone had a clear shot at Rodgers on his blind side he didn't see at all. Believe it was a safety. On that very last drive. Rodgers holds onto the ball, as if he fumbled, someone was there for us to scoop and if not score, get way down there to kick a game winning FG. Not to mention, both of GB's long FGs that game, looked to be missed off the foot and curved back in.

It's always something in these divisional round games...

 

[DallasEast]

I agree. The pass from Romo was perfect. They had done it in preseason that same year. All Dez has to do is secure the ball and go down.

 

[Ironicalicon]

Appreciate this has been talked about many times before but having watched it again just now it must go down as one of the worst reversals I have ever seen.

Surely when Dez touched the ground with his right elbow then he's down having completed the process of a catch (he had made a football move by taking 2-3 steps after securing the ball).

In any event, I haven't seen any clear and unequivocal footage of the ball touching the ground at any point - part of his arm looked to be under the ball when he went to ground so worst case scenario he has caught the ball in the end zone as Shields didn't mark him down by contact.

People say well Rodgers would have just marched down the field any way - great let's see him do it and it's irrelevant to the above call.

It's still annoying all these years on!

Ironic that you brought this up today. I'm watching the Seattle game from '14 right now with plans to watch the GB game again afterwards. And yes, it was a catch.

 

[MarcusRock]

If you don't have possession you are not down - you can hot potato it as far as you want. I'll answer it again. He didn't rule GTTG because if he did, then possession wasn't completed until the player was in the endzone.

The ruling is that the player caught the ball and was down at the half yardline. This means that the play is blown dead at that point, and both the bobble and determination of whether or not the ball touched the ground are irrelevant.

If the ruling is GTTG, then there is no possession at the half yardline and the ball is caught in the endzone. In this case, replay would show that the ball hit the ground and it is incomplete.

The replay overturned a ruling that was not made on the field.

If you are touched by a defender and you and the ball hit the ground, you are down. You can't rollover and bobble the ball for more yards in an upright or GTTG case. Literally a made up rule. Same spot whether GTTG or not. Just like sliding out of bounds forward to maintain possession to determine if a catch was made. Your spot is where you were touched down or went out of bounds. There are no bobble/slide yards. But hey, show me in the rulebook where that is applicable.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Because it had bogged down in the 2nd half.
highly i probable they could put togther a sustained drive

They play was there and he took it and MADE the throw Perfectly

They couldn’t get 4th and 1 running the football? It wasn’t that it was bad. It was gonna be a tough throw and catch for a guy like Dez who was a possession guy to begin with. I take the risk on 3rd and 1….

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I agree. The pass from Romo was perfect. They had done it in preseason that same year. All Dez has to do is secure the ball and go down.

It was 4th and 1.

 

[tyke1doe]

If only Drew Pearson had been wearing a tear-away jersey ...

 

[MarcusRock]

It was 4th and 1.

And? They didn't see it coming. And it worked if the ball was just secured knowing if anything goes wrong, you lose the ball. And for the record, I don't blame Dez. Instinct makes you want to get all you can and score. Just an unlucky situation. If he doesn't slip on his 3rd step he probably gets credit for the required lunge to get out of going to the ground.

 

[MarcusRock]

2007 and 2016 were better chances to me. Set up to play teams we should have beat and got them all at home. 2014, even if we had won, had to go on the road to Seattle the next week. Sure, we beat them there earlier in the season but playoffs always a different animal.

Rodgers blocked our NFC title hopes 2 times in 3 years, both on teams inferior to ours. He beat us on one leg in 2014. Had plenty of chances to bury them and didn't. In 2016, someone had a clear shot at Rodgers on his blind side he didn't see at all. Believe it was a safety. On that very last drive. Rodgers holds onto the ball, as if he fumbled, someone was there for us to scoop and if not score, get way down there to kick a game winning FG. Not to mention, both of GB's long FGs that game, looked to be missed off the foot and curved back in.

It's always something in these divisional round games...

Here is that sack by Heath in 2016. He's not a DE so you can't have a go at him too much but a simple swipe rather than a hard body shot would have done the trick. Scandrick was right there for the scoop and maybe score.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And? They didn't see it coming. And it worked if the ball was just secured knowing if anything goes wrong, you lose the ball. And for the record, I don't blame Dez. Instinct makes you want to get all you can and score. Just an unlucky situation. If he doesn't slip on his 3rd step he probably gets credit for the required lunge to get out of going to the ground.

What do you mean and? A deep pass on 4th and 1 is not a smart decision…..especially with a great offensive line.

 

[MarcusRock]

What do you mean and? A deep pass on 4th and 1 is not a smart decision…..especially with a great offensive line.

It was actually 4th and 2. They sell out for the run and stop you, then what? And the pass worked. That great offensive line got Romo sacked 2 times on the prior drive and 1 on that final drive (GB had 4 the whole game). It was just an unknown but the element of surprised worked.

 

[KJJ]

Appreciate this has been talked about many times before but having watched it again just now it must go down as one of the worst reversals I have ever seen.

Surely when Dez touched the ground with his right elbow then he's down having completed the process of a catch (he had made a football move by taking 2-3 steps after securing the ball).

In any event, I haven't seen any clear and unequivocal footage of the ball touching the ground at any point - part of his arm looked to be under the ball when he went to ground so worst case scenario he has caught the ball in the end zone as Shields didn't mark him down by contact.

People say well Rodgers would have just marched down the field any way - great let's see him do it and it's irrelevant to the above call.

It's still annoying all these years on!

Can’t believe anyone wants to argue that again. The rule was different back then. He didn’t hang onto the ball all the way through the contact of the ground, which is why the call was reversed. Get over it!