Dez: Get ready to take the blame Dak

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Yes, Mahomes won the SB all by himself.

If Mahomes was the QB of Dallas, would he have played better than Dak against GB?

 

[Chasing6]

Jerry has decided to go all in on the rebuild this year given the hard schedule we face. Shouldn't be too hard to tank this season. Get rid of Fat Mike, Dak and several other overpaid players and start with a load of draft picks for the next two years starting in 2025. Jerry made another Romo decision with Dak and now will have to suffer the consequences of the find the bargain QB.

Trade all this years draft picks for future picks.

Let's see how that works. I am sure CD and Micah are going to be so excited.

Then after we sign CD to 5 years $175M deal, you guys will call him a bust when he has 75 catches for 850 yards, because he has no QB.

 

[Chasing6]

Well Dez is very observant. Dak definitely deserves his share of blame but he also gets blamed for parts of the team and operations on parts of the team that weren't his fault.

Anybody who refutes it is a liar.

Football is a team game, but Dez know we'll most likely as a TEAM will be worse..... however, Dak will most likely get blamed for all things that goes wrong with this team.

We lead the league in team penalties for the last 3 years, don't have a running, etc. Dak is blamed for the defense giving up yards, getting penalties, kickers missing kicks, on and on and on.

Dak had bad moments, so did the rest of the team. But like Dez said, everything that goes wrong will be placed on Dak.

It is clearly Dak's fault we have no cap space even thought it has been proven we can free up $60M keeping Dak's contract as is.

 

[Chasing6]

Can't help it with the name calling, huh? Thankfully for you there is selective application

I only see him ask a question.

 

[Chasing6]

He's calling you and the rest of us losers and you defend him! Figures..

Victim mentality.

 

[Section446]

Is he wrong?

Any criticism Dak gets is 100% justified.

 

[Chasing6]

Not sure where Dez has been but Dak has been getting blamed for the last 3 years. And he deserves the blame. He had Cooper and Lamb yet couldn't hardly move the ball in the playoffs against the 49ers. And we watch Jordon Love shred that 49 er defense.

How did that trade from our genius GM work out for Cooper? How did the genius extension of Gallup coming off a major injury work out.

I know, I know, you're right. That is Dak's fault.

 

[OmerV]

Disagree, I’d say Mahomes, Rodgers, Burrow have proven to carry lesser squads on their own. Obviously guys need to produce but their difference is clear as day.

I'm wondering how any QB succeeds snapping the ball to himself, blocking for himself, both throwing and catching the ball, and playing defense to keep the other team from scoring too much. That's quite a feat.


So, you're arguing that Kelce, Pacheco, Chris Jones and the Kansas City defense that was 2nd best in the NFL in both yards allowed and points allowed, and a strong O-Line had absolutely nothing to do with the Chiefs winning? A few years ago Tyreek Hill made no contribution?

And what about Burrow? The Bengals were 4-6 before he got hurt this year. How does that translate into him not needing any help to win?

And you're saying Rodgers got no help from Aaron Jones & Davonte Adams his last few years in GB? What about when he won the Super Bowl after the 2010 season? Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson and the 2nd best defense in the NFL played no part?

 

[Sydla]

If I were Dak, I might starting thinking about demanding a trade.

You have no extension. You just watched a bunch of players leave in FA. You might lose your LT. You have slop for TBs right now. The Cowboys have signaled they ain't going to sign anyone of note in FA. The team has a decent enough chance of actually being less talented in 2024 than 2023.

Now might be the time to get out of Dodge.

 

[Big_D]

You guys are funny, you're gonna rip Dez when management here completely put themselves in this situation. They aren't winning diddly this year. You can't just dumpster dive when you have holes every where and you can't let your QB take up a huge portion of your cap. We can blame Dak and it was time to move on years ago, but this is 100% on Jerry and his kid. Pizzpoor managment, we like our guys.. the whole deal culminating in the usual Jones crap.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

I'm wondering how any QB succeeds snapping the ball to himself, blocking for himself, both throwing and catching the ball, and playing defense to keep the other team from scoring too much. That's quite a feat.


So, you're arguing that Kelce, Pacheco, Chris Jones and the Kansas City defense that was 2nd best in the NFL in both yards allowed and points allowed, and a strong O-Line had absolutely nothing to do with the Chiefs winning? A few years ago Tyreek Hill made no contribution?

And what about Burrow? The Bengals were 4-6 before he got hurt this year. How does that translate into him not needing any help to win?

And you're saying Rodgers got no help from Aaron Jones & Davonte Adams his last few years in GB? What about when he won the Super Bowl after the 2010 season? Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson and the 2nd best defense in the NFL played no part?

Stop, I hate those cliche arguments, “they snap the ball to themselves and block for themselves..”

It’s simple, Dak would make Pacheco and Kelce worse and continue to stress the defense in a high stakes game by producing less. No one here thinks Dak beats SF for the SB if he was in KC.

Conversely, if Mahomes was in Dallas playing GB, we wouldn’t expect him to throw 2 INTs (one for a TD) in the first half with multiple stalled drives.

He gets paid in the same ball park as those guys.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

The Jones family agreed to pay Dak right?

If you believe that Dak's play and contract is holding the team back, shouldn't the people responsible for agreeing to that contract be held responsible as well?

There are Cowboy fans who seem to think the Jones family are victims in all this.

100%. If you don't think he's worth it.....move on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One of the reasons McCarthy was hired because it was thought he was a QB "whisperer". Well they handcuffed him the first few years because they just KNEW they had struck gold with Kellen Moore. That is all on the Jones boys. I am not a Dak lover or hater. I am a Cowboys fan....but Dak had his best year last year. Was it good enough? No! Will much change next year? I doubt it. Paying him more money doesn't mean Dak is going to become someone he's not at this stage in his career. He needs a stronger running game and a strong run defense. Especially to win 3 - 4 games in the playoffs. If you can't get him that (for whatever reason) then move on!!!!!! Paying him more money will not change what he needs!

 

[Philmonroe]

Other QBs get plenty of help. The Jones Family has really done a number on this fan base to where they're now blaming Daks Money. That's how bad some are getting manipulated and they don't even realize it. Lmao.

Beat it Tad

 

[OmerV]

Stop, I hate those cliche arguments, “they snap the ball to themselves and block for themselves..”

It’s simple, Dak would make Pacheco and Kelce worse and continue to stress the defense in a high stakes game by producing less. No one here thinks Dak beats SF for the SB if he was in KC.

Conversely, if Mahomes was in Dallas playing GB, we wouldn’t expect him to throw 2 INTs (one for a TD) in the first half with multiple stalled drives.

He gets paid in the same ball park as those guys.

You said some QBs carry squads "on their own". Yes, I know you didn't mean they snap the ball to themself, but my comment is no more nonsensical than the claim some QB's can win without quality players on his team - that they alone can carry a team without help from others with talent.

Again, I conceded that some can do more than Dak did with less help - that's a reasonable comment. Your comment that other QBs can carry teams without help is not reasonable. Not even close


Of course now you're moving away from what you said. You're now arguing Mahomes could have done more with the talent the Cowboys had than Dak did, which isn't an argument at all because I already agreed Mahomes can do more than Dak. But that wasn't your orignal argument. Your original argument is Dak needs help and Mahomes doesn't.

 

[TwentyOne]

Come on Dez. We are a great drafting team. Dont you think so too ?

 

[GoldenR]

well yes

dak want all the money dak can have all the blame

that is why franchise qb get so much because they can elevate every one around them and they get less talent because of the salary cap

well dak cant but real franchise qb can

Dak did elevate Green Bay so there's that.

 

[Chasing6]

I'm wondering how any QB succeeds snapping the ball to himself, blocking for himself, both throwing and catching the ball, and playing defense to keep the other team from scoring too much. That's quite a feat.


So, you're arguing that Kelce, Pacheco, Chris Jones and the Kansas City defense that was 2nd best in the NFL in both yards allowed and points allowed, and a strong O-Line had absolutely nothing to do with the Chiefs winning? A few years ago Tyreek Hill made no contribution?

And what about Burrow? The Bengals were 4-6 before he got hurt this year. How does that translate into him not needing any help to win?

And you're saying Rodgers got no help from Aaron Jones & Davonte Adams his last few years in GB? What about when he won the Super Bowl after the 2010 season? Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson and the 2nd best defense in the NFL played no part?

You are 100% correct. Did Brady leave NE for a team that gave him the most money or a team he thought was ready to win a SB?

Why did Rodgers decide to go to the Jets. Did it have anything to do with their great defense?

Where do you think Dak will go? To a ****** team paying him the most money or a team that gives him a chance to win in 2025?

 

[Philmonroe]

Sounds like Romo….hmm.

He don’t play here anymore. I think Romo did something to y’all unsavory how he leaves rent free in some of y’all’s minds. Keep focused on the current qb

 

[Hadenough]

How did that trade from our genius GM work out for Cooper? How did the genius extension of Gallup coming off a major injury work out.

I know, I know, you're right. That is Dak's fault.

Oh Jerry has some blame but at this point right now if Dallas had a competent QB like Jordon Love the Cowboys would of been to an NFC championship game. Daks poor play in the playoffs is because he has been exposed as a QB that can beat bad team handily but can't compete at the next level.

 

[Miller]

Name the weapons so we can laugh bro.

So one of the top 3 WRs in the league, a young stud TE and 2-3 other WRs are not good? Aren’t yall the same people who said the O was better last year? So Gallup/Pollard is a big hit? Funny. Sounds like you are moving the goal posts again. The point still stands. If he’s getting $60 mil then he has to do more than beat bad teams and then wet the bed in the playoffs