Dez "it was a catch"

[dragon_mikal]

I agree that it was a catch but oh man can we not bring this up again? Same gut punch every time.

 

[vlad]

We’ve fallen so low

 

[Nova]

and then the NFL admitted the rule was wrong and changed it
Blindly following the rules is like blindly following orders
neither ends well

Bruh it's the NFL. It's not that serious.

We're not talking about what is morally right or wrong, here.

 

[MarcusRock]

Common sense says it was a catch. The rules (at the time) say different.

Instead of just securing the catch, Dez made the extra effort for the TD, and it cost him. It cost all of us.

But I will NEVER fault Dez for what he tried to do.

In the playoffs, you don't play it safe. You make plays.

Agree. I've always said I never blamed Dez for trying to get more. He'd probably done it a few times before without the ball coming out. Just unlucky.

 

[MarcusRock]

Lucky for both of you that you have the option to stay out of the thread. You see, when there is a topic I am "sick of hearing about" I will simply ignore it, and move on. That is what is known as a "rational decision". Try it sometime. You won't come across as some kind of moron who's actions betray the lie he wants everyone to believe.

Nuh uh, bro. Where there's bending of reality, I'm here to shove truth in you people's faces and watch you tap dance because you don't even understand the rules you rail against. "Hey maw, no fair! They're out to get us!" Grown men, no less.

 

[Nova]

Agree. I've always said I never blamed Dez for trying to get more. He'd probably done it a few times before without the ball coming out. Just unlucky.

There were definitely similar plays he's made.

The one that comes to mind happened at home earlier in the year against the giants in the 4th quarter. He didn't score but it set up first and goal that ultimately put us up 28-21.

 

[MarcusRock]

He made a football move. It was a catch. It was ruled a catch and the New York office called to overrule it. Has that ever happened before or again or did they always let the ruling stand? That should tell you something.

It's happened even more times than I quoted a few weeks back.

Calvin Johnson (2010) - ruled a completed catch, overturned to say GTTG applied instead - no catch​

Dez Bryant (2013) - ruled a completed catch, overturned to say GTTG applied instead - no catch​

Dez Bryant (2015) - ruled a completed catch, overturned to say GTTG applied instead - no catch​

Andre Ellington (2017) - ruled a completed catch, overturned to say GTTG applied instead - no catch​

Jesse James (2017) - ruled a completed catch, overturned to say GTTG applied instead - no catch​

What does that tell? It wasn't unprecedented even to Dez himself just the season prior.

 

[MarcusRock]

There were definitely similar plays he's made.

The one that comes to mind happened at home earlier in the year against the giants in the 4th quarter. He didn't score but it set up first and goal that ultimately put us up 28-21.

It's this one here at 0:48. What's funny is this play is one of the ones that Blandino used to call out the difference in Dez' attempted lunge in Green Bay. If he executes like he did in that Giants game and still loses the ball after it hitting the ground, it is a catch. But you can't have an "attempted" lunge per the rules, you have to actually lunge. I haven't even reached in that bag of rules to show people where that is since they can't even get past the simple stuff.

 

[MarcusRock]

Sorry, I knew you would be here. two feet, Football move ( switched the ball from a two hand catch) to one hand and dove for the endzone. It met the rules for a catch - surviving the ground is the only issue up for debate and technically him just falling, he would have survived the ground, but the football move (dive for endzone) caused the ball to move. I understand the ruling but the football move causes the ruling to be wrong!

Sure, if he was upright. But when you go to the ground in the act of completing a catch those rules overlay the upright rules because it's a different scenario. So if Dez was upright, why didn't he just stay on his feet and run into the end zone for the TD? Because he was going to the ground, that's why.

 

[MyFairLady]

In the playoffs, you don't play it safe. You make plays.

He didn't make the play. There is nothing more to it than that.

 

[Nova]

It's this one here at 0:48. What's funny is this play is one of the ones that Blandino used to call out the difference in Dez' attempted lunge in Green Bay. If he executes like he did in that Giants game and still loses the ball after it hitting the ground, it is a catch. But you can't have an "attempted" lunge per the rules, you have to actually lunge. I haven't even reached in that bag of rules to show people where that is since they can't even get past the simple stuff.

ha that's funny.

It only stands out in my mind because I was at that game. His effort on that play was easy to see even all the way up in the mezzanie (where I was because I couldn't get back into the lower bowl that I snuck into earlier).

They're similar but certainly different plays. Dez took like 4-5 steps on that one, gathered the ball again and lunged. Just stating it was similar in the sense that he was diving for the end zone instead of just going down.

 

[Nova]

He didn't make the play. There is nothing more to it than that.

He attempted to make the play, and I'm not going to fault him for that.

Dez easily could have just controlled the catch and went down. But he was trying to turn an otherworldly catch into a TD.

 

[gtb1943]

He didn't make the play. There is nothing more to it than that.

for people with a certain agenda....

 

[nathanlt]

It was a crazy, foolish playcall on 4th down..... Dez caught the ball, no doubt, no controversy IT WAS referees stealing away a catch.
But Cobb had a questionable catch.... Dez caught the ball, no doubt, no controversy IT WAS referees stealing away a catch.
But Aaron Rodgers likely would have gotten a touchdown with so much time left.... Dez caught the ball, no doubt, no controversy IT WAS referees stealing away a catch.
If Demarco Murray hadn't fumbled.... Dez caught the ball, no doubt, no controversy IT WAS referees stealing away a catch.
But some of the rules were vague about process..... Dez caught the ball, no doubt, no controversy IT WAS referees stealing away a catch.

So many storylines to distract from how the referees ruined the NFL, delegitimized professional football, in that moment frozen in time. I will always be disgusted by their bravado.

 

[J_Allen]

Pathetic bum drops the only pass that really mattered. Fitting for a guy that could never be counted on to get the job done. Got paid and that was the end of him.

I'll never forget him fighting for an extra yard after being surrounded by four or five giants and twisting his ankle. I really admire the heart but sometimes you have to use your head.

 

[leeblair]

Yes it was.

With great respect I say, "Who cares?"
It was ten years ago, and Rogers would've had plenty of time to bring the Packers back.
DeMarco Murray sealed his fate as a Cowboy and the team's fate that day when he fumbled on what would/should have been the score that broke the Packers back in the third quarter.
But in truth, that pass shouldn't have been called. It was just another of Garrett's pass happy plays that failed.
And it was ten tears ago.

 

[Hardline]

I don't care anymore.

 

[jsb357]

Bad organizations reliving "what if's" till the cows come home...

That's what it is to be modern Cowboys fan.

Thanks Jerry.

 

[gimmesix]

Yes it was.

Anyone ever ask him, why didn't you just make sure you had the ball secured when going to the ground instead of trying to reach out and score? Don't you know the rules?

Whether we think it was a catch or wasn't a catch, Dez simply securing the ball through contact with the ground would have left no doubt.

 

[Floatyworm]

Yes it was.

Well....it was. Taking that to my grave. If I was Dez....I would be making numerous trips to the Star to remind McCarthy