Dezspicable

[dallasfan4lizife]

Dak Prescott Stats:

Targeting Dez:

Comp Pct 48.8
TD-Int. 9-4
Passer Rtg. 84.7

Targeting EVERYONE ELSE:

Comp Pct 71.7
TD-Int. 17-2
Passer Rtg. 105.1



What does the eye test tell you? Dez can't get separation. Gets owned by any half way decent corner. Needs immaculate ball placement to even have a chance of catching it. He's a horrible route runner. His route running tree consists of about 3-4 routes total. He's supposedly not the hardest worker in the locker room either.

Dez has been exposed. Garrett has been exposed since 08'. Need a real #1 receiver in the draft, and a new head coach. Should fix a lot of issues that we saw yesterday on the offensive side of the ball.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Well if Butler leaves in offseason, we will have 5 left (6 currently on roster). Linehan is the one running the offense, he has to devise better routes for Dez to run.

 

[robjay04]

Every other target on our team is a low risk target. You're not going to throw many interceptions or incompletions when you're throwing to Zeke, Witten or Bease 5 yards up the field...but you also won't get many big plays.

Couldn't you have just put this in on of their other dozen Dez bashing threads?

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Every other target on our team is a low risk target. You're not going to throw many interceptions or incompletions when you're throwing to Zeke, Witten or Bease 5 yards up the field.

Couldn't you have just put this in on of their other dozen Dez bashing threads?

I was watching the box score of the Patriots game, and Brady thew alot of passes to his rb's. Why don't we use that? We have Zeke with his speed, Switzer was a rb in high school, use him in that role (backfield passes). RSmith in preseason showed he can make plays in the passing game.

 

[robjay04]

I was watching the box score of the Patriots game, and Brady thew alot of passes to his rb's. Why don't we use that? We have Zeke with his speed, Switzer was a rb in high school, use him in that role (backfield passes). RSmith in preseason showed he can make plays in the passing game.

I think that's what we strive to be. We want at least one big play guy I think we are trying to force Dez to be that guy but it's not really his strength. The next 3 targeted players behind Dez are typically chain moving players.

If we got him involved in the short passing game more, good things will happen...instead we treat him like a deep threat and rarely target him within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. Now Dez is not Julio Jones or Odell at this point but these two players are consistently involved in the game plan...not just when you need a big play.

It seems like Dez gets all of the low percentage work in this offense...it's really mind boggling.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

I'll say the same thing I said before. If Dez sucks so does every Cowboys player who ever played WR minus Irvin. TOs stay was too short to matter. Dez is EASILY the second best WR this franchise ever had.

 

[superonyx]

Dak Prescott Stats:

Targeting Dez:

Comp Pct 48.8
TD-Int. 9-4
Passer Rtg. 84.7

Targeting EVERYONE ELSE:

Comp Pct 71.7
TD-Int. 17-2
Passer Rtg. 105.1



What does the eye test tell you? Dez can't get separation. Gets owned by any half way decent corner. Needs immaculate ball placement to even have a chance of catching it. He's a horrible route runner. His route running tree consists of about 3-4 routes total. He's supposedly not the hardest worker in the locker room either.

Dez has been exposed. Garrett has been exposed since 08'. Need a real #1 receiver in the draft, and a new head coach. Should fix a lot of issues that we saw yesterday on the offensive side of the ball.

Actually it tells me Dez is facing double coverage or safety help over the top and Dak is still throwing it to him occasionally.
It also tells me your understanding of how this thing works is lacking.

Clever title though.
Sorry the content wasn't better.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

During today's presser the point was brought up about the success rate (or lack there of) of going to Bryant so far this season and Garrett sort a said (in his own "between the lines" way) that some of the lack of success was due to factors other than Dez (the quality of the pass for instance) but in other cases... Well.

Personally I'd like to see them stop forcing the ball to the guy.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

I'll say the same thing I said before. If Dez sucks so does every Cowboys player who ever played WR minus Irvin. TOs stay was too short to matter. Dez is EASILY the second best WR this franchise ever had.

Dez was great early in his career. Just the past 2 years he seems to not run any route than the down the field sideline ones.

 

[perrykemp]

Dez is EASILY the second best WR this franchise ever had.

Dez is undoubtedly the best red zone threat the franchise has ever seen.

Top 2 WR all time for the Cowboys? Accounting for the fact Dez is playing in the most pass heavy era the NFL has even seen, I just don't see it.

Dez has had 3 1000 yard seasons in his 8 year career so far.

Terrell Owens, an example, had 1000+ yards each of the 3 seasons he played in Dallas.

I'm not saying Terrell Owens was a better "Cowboys WR" than Dez, I'm just saying 3 1000 yard seasons for a guy who has been in the league 8 years ain't all that special these days.

 

[ALBIT]

Dak Prescott Stats:

Targeting Dez:

Comp Pct 48.8
TD-Int. 9-4
Passer Rtg. 84.7

Targeting EVERYONE ELSE:

Comp Pct 71.7
TD-Int. 17-2
Passer Rtg. 105.1



What does the eye test tell you? Dez can't get separation. Gets owned by any half way decent corner. Needs immaculate ball placement to even have a chance of catching it. He's a horrible route runner. His route running tree consists of about 3-4 routes total. He's supposedly not the hardest worker in the locker room either.

Dez has been exposed. Garrett has been exposed since 08'. Need a real #1 receiver in the draft, and a new head coach. Should fix a lot of issues that we saw yesterday on the offensive side of the ball.

Dez and Dak are not a good fit. Dez cant get open and Dak cant accurately throw the ball downfield. So Dez will have the worst years of his career in this current offense. I think we can all agree that Dez has been a tad overatted here. He is not amongst thr elite WR in the game. He is a tier below. Which is not terrible. The big issue is Dez and Dak are not a good combo. Beasley and Dak. Yes. That is a good fit. So just be prepared to see him have one great game and a few mediocre games and when he plays a great defense pretty much be invisible. It is what it is. Not much to do about it really?

 

[dallasfan4lizife]

Every other target on our team is a low risk target. You're not going to throw many interceptions or incompletions when you're throwing to Zeke, Witten or Bease 5 yards up the field...but you also won't get many big plays.

Couldn't you have just put this in on of their other dozen Dez bashing threads?

No this needed its own. He has been truly exposed the last 2 weeks.

 

[dallasfan4lizife]

Dez is undoubtedly the best red zone threat the franchise has ever seen.

Top 2 WR all time for the Cowboys? Accounting for the fact Dez is playing in the most pass heavy era the NFL has even seen, I just don't see it.

Dez has had 3 1000 yard seasons in his 8 year career so far.

Terrell Owens, an example, had 1000+ yards each of the 3 seasons he played in Dallas.

I'm not saying Terrell Owens was a better "Cowboys WR" than Dez, I'm just saying 3 1000 yard seasons for a guy who has been in the league 8 years ain't all that special these days.

No not at all. He's entirely overrated by our coaches, and I actually believe our WR core is the weakest position group on our football team.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Summary Dez is not good. Over hyped loud mouth.

 

[gimmesix]

Dak Prescott Stats:

Targeting Dez:

Comp Pct 48.8
TD-Int. 9-4
Passer Rtg. 84.7

Targeting EVERYONE ELSE:

Comp Pct 71.7
TD-Int. 17-2
Passer Rtg. 105.1



What does the eye test tell you? Dez can't get separation. Gets owned by any half way decent corner. Needs immaculate ball placement to even have a chance of catching it. He's a horrible route runner. His route running tree consists of about 3-4 routes total. He's supposedly not the hardest worker in the locker room either.

Dez has been exposed. Garrett has been exposed since 08'. Need a real #1 receiver in the draft, and a new head coach. Should fix a lot of issues that we saw yesterday on the offensive side of the ball.

The eye test tells me that Dak doesn't know how to get the ball to Dez as well as Romo knew how to get the ball to Dez. If Dak can't figure it out, then I agree that we'll need a different-type receiver as our No. 1.

 

[fairviewfarmer]

I'll say the same thing I said before. If Dez sucks so does every Cowboys player who ever played WR minus Irvin. TOs stay was too short to matter. Dez is EASILY the second best WR this franchise ever had.

Evidently you're too young to remember Drew Pearson and Tony Hill.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

No not at all. He's entirely overrated by our coaches, and I actually believe our WR core is the weakest position group on our football team.

safeties are weaker group than wr, not even close. Talent wise we have good wr's, they just aren't being used right by Linehan and his stale offense when we can't run the ball. Dak is forcing it to Dez too many times. Not looking at other options.

 

[ALBIT]

Evidently you're too young to remember Drew Pearson and Tony Hill.

Oh how I miss 88 and 80. Its a shame. Drew Pearson was one of the most clutch WR of all time. I loved him. Tony Hill was a perfect compliment. Sigh. I miss my youth.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Dak Prescott Stats:

Targeting Dez:

Comp Pct 48.8
TD-Int. 9-4
Passer Rtg. 84.7

Targeting EVERYONE ELSE:

Comp Pct 71.7
TD-Int. 17-2
Passer Rtg. 105.1



What does the eye test tell you? Dez can't get separation. Gets owned by any half way decent corner. Needs immaculate ball placement to even have a chance of catching it. He's a horrible route runner. His route running tree consists of about 3-4 routes total. He's supposedly not the hardest worker in the locker room either.

Dez has been exposed. Garrett has been exposed since 08'. Need a real #1 receiver in the draft, and a new head coach. Should fix a lot of issues that we saw yesterday on the offensive side of the ball.

Beyond stupid analysis.

"Needs immaculate ball placement to even have a chance at catching it."

The data accounts for high percentage throws to RBs and guys who run short underneath routes such as Beasley and Witten. Dez averaged 16 YPC last season which was way higher than our other primary receivers. He's also utilized on plays with low-percentage success rates such as fades and 50/50 balls.

Lulz.

 

[kevm3]

Dez is older and he's slowed down. Top corners can cover him like glue and he's not really bringing those jump balls down consistently. We have to waste downs forcing the ball his way to keep him satisfied. Bad formula. All of the interceptions/near interceptions came from Dak trying to force the ball Dez's way.

The coaching staff just needs to realize that against top corners, Dez is not a deep receiving threat and we need to get him in slants. Nearly all of his catches came from him in the middle of the field and not running down the field.