Dick lebeau watch from Pittsburgh...

[VA Cowboy]

IF it is true that Jerry likes say a Cowher or Lovie, basically someone who would be available next year. But wants to keep Bill on this year instead of getting a one year HC stop gap.

In that case, remember I said this is a stretch, maybe he would hire someone like LeBeau to come in as DC and get things started, get used to the players, get the players used to him and the scheme somewhat...and have that area setup for when Cowher came in the next year.

I would agree, if this is Jerry's decision.

But that goes to the issue of whether JJ has reverted back to hiring the assistant coaches for the HC. As much as I may like a coach, I don't want Jerry making those decisions. The HC should be responsible for his own staff.

I still remember after Switzer was fired, Jerry was trying to hire Brian Billick as OC, before we even had a HC lined up. The thought of those days almost makes me hurl my lunch.

 

[jazzcat22]

Everybody needs to drop the Dick Lebeau watch,the Dom Capers watch,or any other big name defensive coordinator,as long as Bill Parcells remains here.First of all,he isn't about to bring in some hotshot coordinator to turn it around and take credit away from him like Bellichek did.No really good coordinator would want to come here and not be able to fully run their system without Parcells interfering,and who wants to come here and work for a 1 year lame duck coach,and not really know what your future is.

First I do not think they will bring one of them in either, unless they think they can be the next HC. Second, do you really think BP has that big of an ego to be that stupid, he would rather take a chance on screwing another season over winning so he can get the glory. I agree with you on them not coming in, but not with your reasoning it is BP's ego. For the reason, they need to know it is not a 1 year and done season if BP leaves.

 

[trickblue]

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[Big Country]

Did you even watch the games this year?

Yes, I watched games this year...

What I'm actually saying is, I guess I'd like to have a consistent running game, consistent offensive line, skill players with nice top of the league stats... Call me a perfectionist, I'm not going to apologize... And for the record, we DON'T have an offensive coordinator.

Your point is???

 

[Yeagermeister]

That would be one of the best hires Jerrah has ever made. If he could get LeBeau here as DC, that would put us over the top, I think.


ray2:

That would be a dream hire for us.

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[superpunk]

Yes, I watched games this year...

What I'm actually saying is, I guess I'd like to have a consistent running game, consistent offensive line, skill players with nice top of the league stats... Call me a perfectionist, I'm not going to apologize... And for the record, we DON'T have an offensive coordinator.

Your point is???

The point is, without a coordinator, this offense scored 100 more points. It was more entertaining and exciting than nearly every offense in the league. Our run game improved, our pass game was more effective, not having a coordinator, and hiring from within did this offense ENORMOUS favors.

 

[aikemirv]

I would agree, if this is Jerry's decision.

But that goes to the issue of whether JJ has reverted back to hiring the assistant coaches for the HC. As much as I may like a coach, I don't want Jerry making those decisions. The HC should be responsible for his own staff.

I still remember after Switzer was fired, Jerry was trying to hire Brian Billick as OC, before we even had a HC lined up. The thought of those days almost makes me hurl my lunch.

Yeah, those Superbowls were hard to take and Brian Billick would have been a terrible hire.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Yeah, those Superbowls were hard to take and Brian Billick would have been a terrible hire.

With the way Jerry controlled the staff and interferred with the coaches and was in control of the personnel, you wouldn't be concerned with any Super Bowls.

 

[aikemirv]

With the way Jerry controlled the staff and interferred with the coaches and was in control of the personnel, you wouldn't be concerned with any Super Bowls.

Everybody likes to dog Jerry for a lot of those decisions and maybe that is correct, but we do have 3 Superbowls during his ownership period, so mistakes aside, you can't be but so irritated.

 

[Clove]

I hate this time of year, it's so far from the draft, and hirings and firings seem to take too long for my liking.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Everybody likes to dog Jerry for a lot of those decisions and maybe that is correct, but we do have 3 Superbowls during his ownership period, so mistakes aside, you can't be but so irritated.

We have three during his ownership... But we have zero during his GMship. That's the problem.

 

[FLcowboy]

Everybody needs to drop the Dick Lebeau watch,the Dom Capers watch,or any other big name defensive coordinator,as long as Bill Parcells remains here.First of all,he isn't about to bring in some hotshot coordinator to turn it around and take credit away from him like Bellichek did.No really good coordinator would want to come here and not be able to fully run their system without Parcells interfering,and who wants to come here and work for a 1 year lame duck coach,and not really know what your future is.

Good observation. If Parcells comes back, then no really good up and coming coach will want to come to Dallas and get lost.

 

[Big Country]

The point is, without a coordinator, this offense scored 100 more points. It was more entertaining and exciting than nearly every offense in the league. Our run game improved, our pass game was more effective, not having a coordinator, and hiring from within did this offense ENORMOUS favors.

OK, I agree there was overall improvement in the offense. I guess I'm just too darn hard to please... Nobody here gives a spit.

I don't agree that NOT having an offensive coordinator was better... Yes, it worked this year, but only because the talent was upgraded... TO, Columbo, Gurode playing good at center.

I'd just like to see an OC that gives Dallas an identity... One still can't say we were a run dominant team or a pass dominant team because it looks like Dallas has trouble adjusting to different strengths.

When Dallas got the opportunity to run the ball on a team that had trouble stopping the run, especially in December, they couldn't do it. That looked to me like an inability to adjust, and I'm left wondering what a lead offensive guy could have done to counter that...

I'm just spewing this out because December was a MAJOR bummer. Dallas had expectations to finish the season strong... I was let down!

How bout, yerself?

 

[wileedog]

I don't agree that NOT having an offensive coordinator was better... Yes, it worked this year, but only because the talent was upgraded...

and then....

When Dallas got the opportunity to run the ball on a team that had trouble stopping the run, especially in December, they couldn't do it. That looked to me like an inability to adjust, and I'm left wondering what a lead offensive guy could have done to counter that...

So when it works, the talent is better, and when it doesn't, the coaches suck.

Gotchya.

 

[visionary]

can you say Todd Bowles?

yeah, but only as i am throwing up.

 

[Ratmatt]

I agree...but as I noted in another thread...there is one Caveat to this idea.

I admit it is VERY far reaching but something that could be considered.

IF it is true that Jerry likes say a Cowher or Lovie, basically someone who would be available next year. But wants to keep Bill on this year instead of getting a one year HC stop gap.

In that case, remember I said this is a stretch, maybe he would hire someone like LeBeau to come in as DC and get things started, get used to the players, get the players used to him and the scheme somewhat...and have that area setup for when Cowher came in the next year.

One last time, I know this is a HUGE stretch. But this is a message board and I am bored right now so there you go.

In that case you need some kind of guarantee that you can get cowher.There is going to be alot of people that would want cowher in 2008,you don't really know if you can land him or not.

 

[wileedog]

In that case you need some kind of guarantee that you can get cowher.There is going to be alot of people that would want cowher in 2008,you don't really know if you can land him or not.

Jerry's got the one thing Cowher could never get from Pittsburgh.

:jackpot:

Seriously, it would be a good situation for him, other than perhaps the Carolina job. Coming into a pre-made and young 3-4 defense, young QB, only needs some tweaks on the offensive side of the ball on O-line and WRs, which aren't a huge staple to his offense anyway. Good TEs. Some secondary tweaks.

And did I mention

:jackpot:

 

[Ratmatt]

If we are going with farfetched ideas then I have one that goes like this. Jerry tells BP that it is fine if he stays but wants a DC who can take over as head coach once BP retires so there is very little transition.

BP agrees and takes Rex Ryan as DC. BP retires next year and Ryan takes over.

I could play the same scenario with Ron Rivera, but he is a 4-3 guy.

Personally 4-3 or 3-4, I really don't care, but if the quality guys are available this year and not as many next year then we need to get one in here this year.

I hate the Bowles idea.

I thought rex ryan was running the 4-3 at baltimore.

 

[Ratmatt]

First I do not think they will bring one of them in either, unless they think they can be the next HC. Second, do you really think BP has that big of an ego to be that stupid, he would rather take a chance on screwing another season over winning so he can get the glory. I agree with you on them not coming in, but not with your reasoning it is BP's ego. For the reason, they need to know it is not a 1 year and done season if BP leaves.

I don't think it is the only reason,but yes I think parcells has one of the biggest ego's in the entire NFL.Even if he was here for the next 5 years,he isn't going to hire and established big name coordinator,or any coordinator,and leave him alone,and let him run his system.He is old school,he is like Tom Landry was,and he has to have control,and his hands in on everything.The coordinator will be someone who has never been one,or someone already on this staff he can control.

 

[Big Country]

and then....



So when it works, the talent is better, and when it doesn't, the coaches suck.

Gotchya.

When it works, it's all working!

When it doesn't... account for it and adjust... This is a team that can't adjust well.