Did Lamb run the wrong route

[khiladi]

Let’s continue to beat this bush from the perspective of an option route.

Here is the clip from Dan Orlovaky breaking it down and pay attention to the last sentence in particular. If one doesn’t want to watch the breakdown, just forward to 2:05 and then 2:30. So from here, would we argue that Dan said Lamb and NOT Dak was confused? If not Dak, who exactly is being referred to here in the statement at 2:23:

“totally confused HIM (Lamb) and the QUARTERBACK (?)”

Is he referring to Aaron Rodgers?

Or is Dan actually saying the defense baited the offense to throw the pick based upon the SAFETY look of cover 3, whole positioning themselves close to the middle and this is what RC referring to when he stated “lie, lie, lie” in regards to the Packers defense?

This brings us to the fundamental issue of where Dak zealots get the argument that Dak is being absolved?

 

[Coogiguy03]

He's been running the wrong routes all his career, get Jefferson in here! Oh yes and ditch this old useless boring playbook

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This has been discussed a million times and this clip has even been posted…like damn it’s Friday why are we still talking about interceptions?

 

[RxMan]

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Honestly the problem is that everything has to be dialed in for it to work. we had to rush to the ball to keep Green Bay personnel in the game. Which seemingly tired our defense out.

what you need out there is easy gimme plays. A scramble for a first. A deep ball pass interference for 40. A 15 yard quick out back shoulder type deal that’s unguardable.


The reason they can’t be great teams in the playoffs is nothing dak does is scary. You can neutralize him.

You force him to earn everything bit by bit with precision and eventually our drive stalls out Bc one of our wide receivers has toilet paper stuck to his cleat or some other dumb ****

 

[cnuball21]

I’m glad we started another thread on it

 

[Boyzmamacita]

This has been discussed a million times and this clip has even been posted…like damn it’s Friday why are we still talking about interceptions?

Because Dak threw them. Remember the interceptions Rush threw against Philly? Crickets. I support both of our QBs because what else can you do? But there are some here who have an agenda.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Does this topic really need another thread? Also it's Friday and now I'm just concerned about how this team is going to show up against the Vikings.

 

[khiladi]

I actually think it does need another thread, because it discusses the SAFETY ALIGNMENT by GB, which is what THEY said actually caused the confusion.

 

[khiladi]

Now for those that blamed CeeDee against the Bears, what happened…

CeeDee split the seems on cover 2 and Dak delivered it late, while staring down CeeDee Lamb. If we were to go simply by what is stated here, the Bears INT was 100% on Dak as Lamb did what he was supposed to on the cover 2.

 

[Redline360]

Yes

However Ford on the second interception regardless of the bad route was sitting on that play. Was going to be INT or broken up regardless when CD made his cut. CD needed to break 3-4 yards earlier and come across

 

[stinkface]

This is like talking about why my tires loose pressure during the winter and bringing it back up again in the middle of July.

 

[khiladi]

Here is the Dak interception against the Bears:



It’s a clear cover 2 look and CeeDee takes it “vertical” per the same terminology, up the seam on the post.

Dak sees cover 2 and tosses, but he delivers it whole staring CeeDee down the whole time. He also does that ‘pumping action” he demonstrates over and over again, which is that clear indication he is waiting for Lamb to be open before throwing it.

From the perspective of the QB, this is the same exact flaw that led to the Interception this week. Dak staes down his WRs and even in this weeks case, irrespective of what Lamb dies after, Dak tosses it well after Lamb makes his break up the seam towards the middle. In fact, Lamb essentially gives up as he sees the middle safety coveting him and at that point it looks like he thinks Dak is going to his other progressions . Why exactly is Dak going up the middle when the cover 3 safety look is funneled towards the inside from the snap?

 

[zrinkill]

Even if he did ...... Dak threw it to the wrong spot.

 

[shabazz]

Because Dak threw them. Remember the interceptions Rush threw against Philly? Crickets. I support both of our QBs because what else can you do? But there are some here who have an agenda.

Selective memory for some here. Even before the Eagles game there were several here that started threads about TD passes to Noah Brown ,from Rush, that weren’t on his chest. It wasn’t just one, there were several and they were dogging Rush about passes that were COMPLETED….not picked

I fail to recall you complaining about THOSE threads…..you are correct about some people having agendas though

 

[khiladi]

So with the 3 safeties shifting towards the middle evdn pre-snap, why didn’t Dak just look towards Lamb and make the left safety hesitate and toss it to Gallup running the go route?

Kurt basically pointed this out that Gallup was a better option and Dak essentially took the worst one. And to my point, it was the worst one on the first read, meaning he didn’t even have to process that much. This all should have been diagnosed pre-snap based on safety alignment.

 

[shabazz]

So with the 3 safeties shifting towards the middle evdn pre-snap, why didn’t Dak just look towards Lamb and then to make the left safety hesitate and toss it to Gallup running the go route?

…..or he could have simply thrown to the other 3 receivers or out of bounds. We’ve been told how well he sees the field and can read defenses with the best of them…..but the fact is that he DIDNT read the defense correctly and failed to alter his decision. He was locked into a spot like a rookie and threw it it into the safety’s chest

 

[big dog cowboy]

He's been running the wrong routes all his career

 

[khiladi]

…..or he could have simply thrown to the other 3 receivers or out of bounds. We’ve been told how well he sees the field and can read defenses with the best of them…..but the fact is that he DIDNT read the defense correctly and failed to alter his decision. He was locked into a spot like a rookie and threw it it into the safety’s chest

This is the crux of the issue.

Dak was going there from the beginning no matter what. It exemplifies the 1-read, inability to diagnose a defense, or go through his progressions QB we have.
Yes, he can throw a nice ball on the early reads, if all goes well.

It’s this type of QB play that gets Moore bashed, when Moore gave him at least 3 other viably options here.

I tell people any given Sunday, forget the WRs at times when watching, just focus on Dak and where he is looking and you’ll see a guy just operating like he’s stuck in molasses as far as awareness of the field is concerned.

 

[G2]

When this thread falls into the old news crapper, rest assured another one will surface.