Did Lamb run the wrong route

[Creeper]

I think they were both wrong. CeeDee needed to flatten his route, but Dak never should have thrown the pass. Dak was looking in the middle of the field the entire time making it easier for the defenders to play the ball.

Again, the issue is we have seen this same INT multiple times and it does not get corrected. I assume we will see it again and again until the Cowboys figure it out. Dak loves the middle of the field but it gets him in trouble.

 

[khiladi]

I think they were both wrong. CeeDee needed to flatten his route, but Dak never should have thrown the pass. Dak was looking in the middle of the field the entire time making it easier for the defenders to play the ball.

Again, the issue is we have seen this same INT multiple times and it does not get corrected. I assume we will see it again and again until the Cowboys figure it out. Dak loves the middle of the field but it gets him in trouble.

Dak throughout his career tended to avoid the middle of the field. He was very conservative against zone in general. Maybe with criticisms against zone coverage becoming louder for Dak, he’s thinking he needs to take more chances. And we see what is happening. Guys like Jimmy G on the other hand love the middle.

This was arguably his greatest game as a Cowboys and TB ran heavy man, single safety looks. You will see similar charts for Dak’s games. BTW, look at his only INT and where it was.

 

[Stash]

It’s the definition of confirmation bias. People believe what they WANT TO BELIEVE. And seek out any source - no matter how poor - that might agree with them.

Jimmy Johnson - Hall of Fame coach - Ceedee’s mistake

Michael Irvin - Hall of Fame receiver - Ceedee’s mistake

But yeah, fans with an axe to grind still believe what they WANT to believe.

It’s pathetic.

 

[Ken]

Let’s continue to beat this bush from the perspective of an option route.

Here is the clip from Dan Orlovaky breaking it down and pay attention to the last sentence in particular. If one doesn’t want to watch the breakdown, just forward to 2:05 and then 2:30. So from here, would we argue that Dan said Lamb and NOT Dak was confused? If not Dak, who exactly is being referred to here in the statement at 2:23:

“totally confused HIM (Lamb) and the QUARTERBACK (?)”

Is he referring to Aaron Rodgers?

Or is Dan actually saying the defense baited the offense to throw the pick based upon the SAFETY look of cover 3, whole positioning themselves close to the middle and this is what RC referring to when he stated “lie, lie, lie” in regards to the Packers defense?

This brings us to the fundamental issue of where Dak zealots get the argument that Dak is being absolved?

Did this REALLY need another thread?

This was discussed in one of the other 10 major threads on this topic.

And yes, you and Orlovasky are wrong.

 

[Ken]

This has been discussed a million times and this clip has even been posted…like damn it’s Friday why are we still talking about interceptions?

They love to break out the Microscope when their is even a hint that Dak did something wrong.

This is their time...we win this week, we will have to wait until at least Thanksgiving for these types of threads. We win Turkey Day...we will have had almost a month of reprieve from the idiocy.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Let it go OP..........please. Seriously doubt another thread is changing anyone's mind.....let it go!

 

[khiladi]

Here is the QB POV, from 49 seconds onward. Dak tosses it at 56 seconds. It’s clear as day, that Dak threw it after CeeDee’s break vertical towards the post..

Dak was late with his delivery, while staring Lamb down.

And once again, Lamb is run off his route by the LB which is shown at 1:02. And once again it shows Lamb didn’t even think Dak was going to throw it at that point, because the LB had good position and the inner safety was already in his way. Lamb wasn’t even looking when he runs around the LB and sees that safety, and then iy picked it off and Lamb looks back and appears to be like why the F did you even throw that..

 

[glimmerman]

First of all the defense knew he was going to throw that route. Dak eye balled it. But Lamb should have seen defender and cut way earlier to shield the ball and make the catch. They throw that pass a lot. Dak needs to simply line up this week and show the look but look the middle off and go to the left side of the field. Throw to different WR. On that pick Brown was on the bottom and the corner let him go 7 yards down the field. Safety was off. Dak had a easy pitch and catch.

 

[glimmerman]

So with the 3 safeties shifting towards the middle evdn pre-snap, why didn’t Dak just look towards Lamb and make the left safety hesitate and toss it to Gallup running the go route?

Kurt basically pointed this out that Gallup was a better option and Dak essentially took the worst one. And to my point, it was the worst one on the first read, meaning he didn’t even have to process that much. This all should have been diagnosed pre-snap based on safety alignment.

I thought it was Brown at the bottom of the field. Who ever it is the corner let him go before Dak threw. Safety didn’t see it. Was a mistake by the defense and Dak had a easy throw.

They throw that play all the time and it’s greedy. Throw the same play but different WR.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Selective memory for some here. Even before the Eagles game there were several here that started threads about TD passes to Noah Brown ,from Rush, that weren’t on his chest. It wasn’t just one, there were several and they were dogging Rush about passes that were COMPLETED….not picked

I fail to recall you complaining about THOSE threads…..you are correct about some people having agendas though

Like I said I support both of our QBs.

 

[cowboyec]

this addiction to "likes" from among the miserable is a real thing.
break free from it.
root for your team...its cleansing.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Let’s continue to beat this bush from the perspective of an option route.

Here is the clip from Dan Orlovaky breaking it down and pay attention to the last sentence in particular. If one doesn’t want to watch the breakdown, just forward to 2:05 and then 2:30. So from here, would we argue that Dan said Lamb and NOT Dak was confused? If not Dak, who exactly is being referred to here in the statement at 2:23:

“totally confused HIM (Lamb) and the QUARTERBACK (?)”

Is he referring to Aaron Rodgers?

Or is Dan actually saying the defense baited the offense to throw the pick based upon the SAFETY look of cover 3, whole positioning themselves close to the middle and this is what RC referring to when he stated “lie, lie, lie” in regards to the Packers defense?

This brings us to the fundamental issue of where Dak zealots get the argument that Dak is being absolved?

Michael Irvin responded to these 2 clowns who saw and interpreted that play wrong.



Case closed.

 

[xwalker]

He's been running the wrong routes all his career, get Jefferson in here! Oh yes and ditch this old useless boring playbook

If the players executed correctly, people would be raving about the greatness of the offense.

John McKay quote:
Question: “What do you think of your team’s execution coach?”

Answer: “I’m in favor of it.”

 

[America's Cowboy]

Because Dak threw them. Remember the interceptions Rush threw against Philly? Crickets. I support both of our QBs because what else can you do? But there are some here who have an agenda.

The Dak haters hate that so many like Michael Irvin, Greg Olson, Keyshawn Johnson, Jimmy Johnson, Nate Newton, Everson Walls, Moose Johnston, Coach Mike McCarthy, Chad Johnson, etc all came out and said CeeDee was at fault because he took the wrong route according to the Defensive look. They refuse to let it go.

 

[CowboyoWales]

This has been discussed a million times and this clip has even been posted…like damn it’s Friday why are we still talking about interceptions?

Yep, it's not as if this play led to a score

 

[nightrain]

Nah, Moore has numerous 60 yard post routes in the repatoire.

 

[Praxit]

..if Irvin stated it was wrong route. Well, take it as it stands.

 

[JoeKing]

Lamb did not run the wrong route, he ran the right route wrong. He was supposed to cross the face of the corner that ended up catching the ball.

 

[cmoney23]

Let’s continue to beat this bush from the perspective of an option route.

Here is the clip from Dan Orlovaky breaking it down and pay attention to the last sentence in particular. If one doesn’t want to watch the breakdown, just forward to 2:05 and then 2:30. So from here, would we argue that Dan said Lamb and NOT Dak was confused? If not Dak, who exactly is being referred to here in the statement at 2:23:

“totally confused HIM (Lamb) and the QUARTERBACK (?)”

Is he referring to Aaron Rodgers?

Or is Dan actually saying the defense baited the offense to throw the pick based upon the SAFETY look of cover 3, whole positioning themselves close to the middle and this is what RC referring to when he stated “lie, lie, lie” in regards to the Packers defense?

This brings us to the fundamental issue of where Dak zealots get the argument that Dak is being absolved?

Dan O. is a complete boob.
He doesn't know football and has fooled a lot of people into thinking he does. I watched his breakdowns and they don't make sense. He tries to talk them into fitting his narrative and it doesn't work all the time so they don't make sense.

 

[DFWJC]

Tired topic but I will repeat what Warner said.
The open WR was on the left sideline (bottom of the screen) and there was no need to force that throw down the middle regardless of CeeDee's route.

Can we just move on