Did Sunday night change your opinion of Romo?

ufcrules1

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So are you saying Dallas lost the Denver game because of Romo?

Define "because". Was he the sole reason? Absolutely not, did he play a role in the loss? Yes, he did. He had a safe throw to Murray and instead threw an INT into a tight window to a rookie TE. How is that NOT playing a role in the loss?
 

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He is NOT afraid to lose.
He is NOT embarrassed when his team is blown out.
He is NOT angry when players do not perform up to expectations.
Football to him is a fun way to make a great living. If the team loses, so what? It's great if they win, but if not, there will be another game or another season. Do any of these sound familiar?: "we will learn from it and go forward," "we will do better at that next time," "it's a long season," "we just have to take it one game at a time," "you can't get too high with the wins, or too low with the losses," "we have to execute better," "IT'S JUST A GAME."

I dont really agree here. He's a competitor.

I think the issue is, he, along with most of the players, know that the leadership and coaching puts them in a hole and screws them over.

You think Sean Lee was excited to have to read the jerseys of the front 4 to know who they were? You think he thought "man, our coaches have put us in a position to win!".

You think when Carr looks over and sees heath and says "Hey man, what junior high did we pick you up from?" that Carr has confidence he's playing on a winning team?

No and 100 more no's. Any bright spots on this team KNOWS they are not put in a position to win. And that is what destroys a team.
 

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Define "because". Was he the sole reason? Absolutely not, did he play a role in the loss? Yes, he did. He had a safe throw to Murray and instead threw an INT into a tight window to a rookie TE. How is that NOT playing a role in the loss?

I know that you know someone stepped on his foot when he was throwing that pass v Denver and still you continue to use that play against him.
 

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yes.

for one reason. all offseason, it was about how romo would be part of the game planning.

If this is a sign of his involvement, lets go back to the way where he isn't so involved. I'm not seeing huge strides from him at all. if anything, he seems to be playing more cautious and reserved.
 

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LOL at the Romo haters. They wanted him to be more conservative and not throw picks and that is exactly what he has done. Now they whine that he is too conservative.

Ignoring the moronic haters, I agree that he is not playing well. What I fear is that with the deterioration once again of Free and waters gone, Romo inside has taken that step that David Carr did after a couple ofyears of horrendous poundng- happy feet and off balance throwing. Which dooms a QB.
 

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It didn't change my opinion that Tony Romo is one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL. Need some proof? Well there's this:

Only Brees and Peyton more TD's this season than Tony.

In the Cowboys 5 losses, Tony has thrown 12 TD's and only 1 interception.

He is number 6 in passing yards and QB rating.

Only Aaron Rogers has thrown less INT's than Romo but Romo has 120 more attempts.

Tony is number 4 in TD to INT ratio

At 113.2, Romo trails only Peyton in 4th quarter QB ration, and is tied for the lead in TD's in the 4th

Romo is 6th in the league in passing yards and completion percentage

Top 10 in passes completed over 25 yards

Finally he is number 5 in percentage of TD's per attempt, number 7 in passing percentage in close game, number 4 in completion percentage on first down.

I know some want to assign blame and Tony is always a popular target but the facts are still the facts..

Manning, Brees and Rogers have, individually, more Super Bowl rings than Romo has a playoff win.
Consider that.
I think that if Romo wins a Super Bowl in his lifetime it will be the greatest NFL story ever: "Choker finally wins it all!"

Let's not anoint Romo until he at least wins his second career playoff win.
 

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Im till waiting for the part where Im wrong... But please continue to meddle...

When you made your ignorant post down below, that is when you were wrong.

Seriously, I like your effort, but you clearly pulled numbers out of your magic hat. Please don't just imagine and assume percentages and stats when you're trying to make a real argument.

How you can claim someone else is wrong without at least doing some research on the situation is laughable, but be my guest and keep blindly following the flow. And no, I didn't "pull numbers our of my magic hat", anyone watching those games objectively would agree with what I posted.
 

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Define "because". Was he the sole reason? Absolutely not, did he play a role in the loss? Yes, he did. He had a safe throw to Murray and instead threw an INT into a tight window to a rookie TE. How is that NOT playing a role in the loss?

Put it this way UFC, anyone putting more then .1% of blame on Romo for that game is a complete moron. If his team around him didn't suck so bad then it would've been a blowout in the favor of Dallas, our QB threw for 500 yards and 5 tds.
 

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My opinion did not change.

I half to say the following:
Romo is brilliant (usually) in glorying hisself with good personal stats.
He will always be a gunslinger. (How many times did you see him thowing off of one foot, like a schoolboy?)
He is terribly overpaid commensurate with the yearly results he has turned in, i.e. leading a mediocre team.
He would be hard put to beat out Danny White not only as a leader but as a consistent winner.
He will usually throw into double and even triple coverage because he thinks so highly of hisself.
He will never EVER take us deep into the playoffs.
He will probably end up with ONE career playoff win.
He is not a true leader of the offensive team. I yearn for the days of Aikman yelling (consistently) at his fellow players to get the most of them.
He is exciting to see. But if I want exciting I will watch the NBA. Exciting has never taken us past the first playoff game. He is like Fran Tarkington, but again, without the playoff wins.
Time to go Mr. Romo. I see no realistic scenario of you leading us to the Super Bowl.
 

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Manning, Brees and Rogers have, individually, more Super Bowl rings than Romo has a playoff win.
Consider that.
I think that if Romo wins a Super Bowl in his lifetime it will be the greatest NFL story ever: "Choker finally wins it all!"

Let's not anoint Romo until he at least wins his second career playoff win.

Anoint? How are posting stats/facts anointing Romo? If you wish to comment, at least have a better argument than Tony sucks, when in fact he doesn't .
 

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My opinion did not change.

I half to say the following:
Romo is brilliant (usually) in glorying hisself with good personal stats.
He will always be a gunslinger. (How many times did you see him thowing off of one foot, like a schoolboy?)
He is terribly overpaid commensurate with the yearly results he has turned in, i.e. leading a mediocre team.
He would be hard put to beat out Danny White not only as a leader but as a consistent winner.
He will usually throw into double and even triple coverage because he thinks so highly of hisself.
He will never EVER take us deep into the playoffs.
He will probably end up with ONE career playoff win.
He is not a true leader of the offensive team. I yearn for the days of Aikman yelling (consistently) at his fellow players to get the most of them.
He is exciting to see. But if I want exciting I will watch the NBA. Exciting has never taken us past the first playoff game. He is like Fran Tarkington, but again, without the playoff wins.
Time to go Mr. Romo. I see no realistic scenario of you leading us to the Super Bowl.

You forgot man..let me add one.

He will never have a defense capable of winning a big game
 

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Just curious.

To the Romo lovers, did it change your opinion of him as a top-tier QB?

To the Romo critics: Did it make you more convinced he's an up and down QB, i.e. inconsistent or even overrated when facing cupcakes?

To those inbetween: Did the game sway you one way or ther other?

As usual, even though the defense turned in a record breaking performance. They could not tackle, defend the pass or get out of their own way. The offense was enemic with questionable play calling and the cheerleaders had a bad hair day. But it all comes back to Tony in some way.
 

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Anoint? How are posting stats/facts anointing Romo? If you wish to comment, at least have a better argument than Tony sucks, when in fact he doesn't .


Stats/facts are usually posted to anoint a player as great or the greatest. Too they can be listed to prove that a player is a stiff. In the case of Romo apologists, their stats usually are meant to say, to use the vernacular, "ain't he great?!"

The thing is, his stats do indicate a high level of proficiency as your or yours stats implie and I infer.

So, please, do not split hairs. The stats in Romo's case are meant to anoint, to engender superlatives and crown him as a great QB. Again, his individual stats do point to individual greatness. However, as the dastardly NFL measures things, the Super Bowl is the prize. The cheese at the end of the maze. El perfecto of cigars. The Cupie Doll in the dart game, etc.

Romo has not done that, i.e. another playoff win or a Super Bowl.. He has won ONE playoff game in his career.

So let's not pretend otherwise that theRomo camp stats are not . That is one stat (playoff wins) that, too, does not lie.
I admire your loyalty to Romo. You are a good fan of his and I am sure he appreciates it.
 

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As usual, even though the defense turned in a record breaking performance. They could not tackle, defend the pass or get out of their own way. The offense was enemic with questionable play calling and the cheerleaders had a bad hair day. But it all comes back to Tony in some way.


Yes, it comes back some way to the president, the general, the CEO and, oftentimes, the QB. It is called leadership or lack thereof.
As Jimma Carter once said, "Life is not Fay-ah."
 

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Romo has looked off the last few games. No doubt about it. But he's hardly the proximate cause of this team's problems. The problems with this team are numerous, and I don't think anyone not named Peyton Manning would make us much better.

And for all the crap about how terrible Romo has been this year, he's done a REALLY good job of protecting the football.
 

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And for all the crap about how terrible Romo has been this year, he's done a REALLY good job of protecting the football.

Out of all qualifying quarterbacks with enough attempts to qualify, only Alex Smith has protected the ball better. And while Romo has become a dink and dunker, he still has a full yard per attempt more than Smith's check downs. Smith has 9 TDs and 4 INTs, Romo 21 and 6. The Chiefs are 9-0. Could we be 9-0 with (gulp) Alex Smith?
 

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I know that you know someone stepped on his foot when he was throwing that pass v Denver and still you continue to use that play against him.

Romo isn't the problem. But come on, don't make excuses for him, it sounds desperate. He shouldn't have thrown it ESPECIALLY when someone stepped in his foot. He had time to pull it down but he decided to throw it anyway.
 

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Out of all qualifying quarterbacks with enough attempts to qualify, only Alex Smith has protected the ball better. And while Romo has become a dink and dunker, he still has a full yard per attempt more than Smith's check downs. Smith has 9 TDs and 4 INTs, Romo 21 and 6. The Chiefs are 9-0. Could we be 9-0 with (gulp) Alex Smith?

No but they do have a good young qb and a solid coach that I hate. The sooner we find those 2 pieces, the better.
 
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