Did the Bills Expose us??

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lewpac;1694989 said:
What'd they do? Score three points?

I know, I know, they got a lot of big third down conversions on us.

Say what??!?

The Bills were 3 of 13 on third down in this game... that's 23 per cent, and that's AWFUL...
 

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silverbear;1695544 said:
Yeah, they racked up an AWESOME 229 yards of total offense, and put up THREE points on the board...

We done been exposed, all right...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Oh wait, you were SERIOUS??

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...


I'm OBVIOUSLY not talking about the defense, they played great. The Bills played alot of Zone tonight and it seemed like Tony was confused at times. It seemed like he locked on to receivers way to much and the defense know exactly how to defend him. He also didn't look very comfortable in the pocket. The Bills never let TO get going and limited Witten in the second half.

I know what your guys are gonna say.....The game was close because Romo played a bad game. My response to that is; Maybe Romo played a bad game because he was planned against very well.

If this was a slightly more talented team we were facing we would of lost by 20. Thank god the Bills suck and the had no Offensive Firepower at all.
 

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rojan;1695570 said:
The Bills never let TO get going and limited Witten in the second half.

Witten had five catches for 46 yards in the second half.


The game was close because Romo played a bad game. My response to that is; Maybe Romo played a bad game because he was planned against very well.

Ah yes, the Bills are the ones who "figured out" Romo now that they've got film on him. I'm just glad the Giants, Dolphins, Bears and Rams couldn't do the same thing.


If this was a slightly more talented team we were facing we would of lost by 20.

What, you don't think we can beat a good team if we turn the ball over six times, force only one turnover and allow three returns for touchdowns?

Odds are, of course, there's no way we'd win. In fact, I'd be surprised if any previous team in the history of the NFL had EVER won a game in which they lost the turnover battle by five and allowed three returns for scores.
 

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AdamJT13;1695594 said:
Witten had five catches for 46 yards in the second half.




Ah yes, the Bills are the ones who "figured out" Romo now that they've got film on him. I'm just glad the Giants, Dolphins, Bears and Rams couldn't do the same thing.




What, you don't think we can beat a good team if we turn the ball over six times, force only one turnover and allow three returns for touchdowns?

Odds are, of course, there's no way we'd win. In fact, I'd be surprised if any previous team in the history of the NFL had EVER won a game in which they lost the turnover battle by five and allowed three returns for scores.

I'm just saying that the Bills came out with a great Game plan. Instead of most people on this forum given them credit for that they are just saying that it was one of them games that we just didn't fully show up for.
 

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rojan;1695570 said:
I'm OBVIOUSLY not talking about the defense, they played great. The Bills played alot of Zone tonight and it seemed like Tony was confused at times. It seemed like he locked on to receivers way to much and the defense know exactly how to defend him. He also didn't look very comfortable in the pocket. The Bills never let TO get going and limited Witten in the second half.

I know what your guys are gonna say.....The game was close because Romo played a bad game. My response to that is; Maybe Romo played a bad game because he was planned against very well.

Naw, he just went braindead on us... but as far as "exposing" the offense, other than Romo turning the ball over, the Boys still put up pretty good numbers-- 385 yards on 72 plays, a 5.3 average... they moved the ball quite effectively...

Nope, the only thing that was "exposed" in this game is something any knowledgeable football fan already knew-- if you turn the ball over six times, you're gonna struggle...

And any future opponent that forces us to turn the ball over six times is gonna give us fits too... DUH...
 

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Having lived in Western NY in my college years, I was PRIVILEGED to go to about 5 Bills games in their heyday years of the early 90's.

Rich Stadium (Ralph Wilson Stadium) on a Monday Night is earthquake loud. I remember a game that Frank Reich QB'd a come from behind victory against the Rams and the place was just bonkers. (The Rams were unbeaten going into that game as well).

It is an experience that I will never forget and is the standard by which I measure all crowd experiences at professional sporting events. The crowd is obnoxious to visiting fans, but not violent or threatening like Philadelphia.

The fans are just completely saturated by their love for the Bills and I respect that because that is how I would be if I were a Dallas resident.
 

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rojan;1695607 said:
I'm just saying that the Bills came out with a great Game plan. Instead of mot people on this forum given them credit for that they are just saying that it was one of them games that we just didn't fully show up for.

If their gameplan was to score 3 points on offense and hope for us to shoot ourselves in the foot so much that it would be enough? That's not a good gameplan.

Lets pretend for a moment that we don't turn the ball over. Lets give them their 3 points scored on offense and their return. It's 25-10 us. That's more in line with what we were expecting going in.

Man, they are NOT a good team and that was NOT a good gameplan. They should have easily won that game.
 

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Ozzu;1695618 said:
If their gameplan was to score 3 points on offense and hope for us to shoot ourselves in the foot so much that it would be enough? That's not a good gameplan.

Lets pretend for a moment that we don't turn the ball over. Lets give them their 3 points scored on offense and their return. It's 25-10 us. That's more in line with what we were expecting going in.

Man, they are NOT a good team and that was NOT a good gameplan. They should have easily won that game.

What do you mean if we didn't turn it over all them times. Its not like we were going against our selves. I know that the word exposed was a little strong but they did add another dimension for all other Defensive Coordinators to look at when they are coming up with a Game Plan for Romo.
 

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Remember people thought Romo was exposed for most of the second half of last year and that he would not be able to get better than he was when he took over the QB job. Well he's already proven those guys wrong.
 

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NickZepp;1694998 said:
Nope, unless Romo turns out to be a lot worse than anyone thought.

Won't happen. The guy lost his rhythm and a few of those INTs weren't his fault, a few were...

But it wasn't as bad as it looked. He still won the game.
 

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AdamJT13;1695594 said:
Odds are, of course, there's no way we'd win. In fact, I'd be surprised if any previous team in the history of the NFL had EVER won a game in which they lost the turnover battle by five and allowed three returns for scores.

I was watching something on NFL Films once and they stated that in the history of the NFL, a team who returns an INT for a TD has gone on to win the game 80% of the time. Buffalo had two INT's for a TD. I'd also imagine that getting a kickoff return probably has a high rate of winning as well. So I'd have to imagine all of those things combined we are likely looking at Dallas winning a game like that less than 1% of the time.




YAKUZA
 

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btw, I wish the rest of the league would copy the BIll's D blue-print from last night, they left the middle of the field wide open for Witten all night
 

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I heard today that only 2 other times has a team had a -5 t/o ratio and won. I'm not sure if they were talking about all games, or just MNF.
 

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Bob Sacamano;1694982 said:
all they did was split their safeties to the corners, and stood up their guys on the line

nothing too exotic or anything
Romo appeared confused by it.

Tough to tell if it was a blitz or 9 guys dropping into coverage.
 

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rojan;1695607 said:
I'm just saying that the Bills came out with a great Game plan. Instead of most people on this forum given them credit for that they are just saying that it was one of them games that we just didn't fully show up for.


Their game plan was hope like hell Romo turns the ball over 6 times and MAYBE we can win. Turns out they couldn't.;)
 

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The Bills were showing man in response to motion and then dropping into zone coverage and I think that confused Romo. Its not exposing him its just something he can learn from and thank the heavens a we didnt get a loss in the process.
 

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InmanRoshi;1695327 said:
Yep, the blueprint is in place. Get 6 turnovers and return a kickoff for a TD, and we're extremely vulnerable.

Seriously, this game had trap game written all over it. Anyone who thinks we can just walk into a visiting stadium any week and just walk all over people seriously lacks an understanding of the NFL.

The only thing I'm really concerned about is our special teams. Our special teams coach needs to go back to Oregon State.

agree with you and theebs and will go further and say that nfl teams don't really "get exposed" like fans want to believe. the game is 90% execution.
 

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vicjagger;1697913 said:
I heard today that only 2 other times has a team had a -5 t/o ratio and won. I'm not sure if they were talking about all games, or just MNF.

Actually, we were the 15th team to do it since the merger in 1970. But we were the first to have had two of the turnovers returned for touchdowns (not to mention a kick return for a TD) and STILL won the game. Only three of the winning teams allowed a return touchdown, and two of those got a return touchdown of their own (as did two other winning teams who didn't have a return TD against them).

Coincidentally, yesterday -- BEFORE last night's game -- the blog at pro-football-reference.com posted the list of the first 14 teams to do it --


+------+-----+------------+-------+-----------+
| team | opp | date | score | TO_margin |
+------+-----+------------+-------+-----------+
| PIT | TAM | 1983-10-30 | 17-12 | -7 |
| CIN | KAN | 1976-11-21 | 27-24 | -6 |
| TEN | CLE | 2000-11-19 | 24-10 | -6 |
| BUF | NYJ | 1970-10-04 | 34-31 | -5 |
| BAL | CHI | 1970-11-29 | 21-20 | -5 |
| WAS | NOR | 1971-10-31 | 24-14 | -5 |
| SFO | MIN | 1972-12-16 | 20-17 | -5 |
| MIN | NOR | 1975-11-16 | 20-7 | -5 |
| CLE | MIA | 1976-11-28 | 17-13 | -5 |
| DEN | KAN | 1985-12-14 | 14-13 | -5 |
| BUF | NYG | 1987-10-18 | 6-3 | -5 |
| MIA | NWE | 1990-10-18 | 17-10 | -5 |
| SDG | ARI | 1995-12-09 | 28-25 | -5 |
| CHI | DET | 1998-10-04 | 31-27 | -5 |
+------+-----+------------+-------+-----------+


That 1970 Baltimore Colts team won despite five interceptions by Johnny Unitas. The Colts fell behind 17-0, then rallied and finally won it on a 54-yard TD pass to John Mackey with less than four minutes to play. Baltimore, of course, went on to finish 11-2-1 that season, then beat us on a field goal with five seconds left in Super Bowl V.
 

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Didn't Romo himself say he was confused by some of the looks the Bills threw at him? If the Bills can do that, don't you think Hoodie can really throw exoctic schemes into the mix?
 

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Nors;1697972 said:
Romo appeared confused by it.

Tough to tell if it was a blitz or 9 guys dropping into coverage.


The Bills made it look like they were playing man-to-man but weren't.

On the first pick Witten read the coverage correctly (3 deep zone) and broke the pattern off. Romo misread it and thought it was a 2 deep zone and through the ball where he thought Witten would be.

After that Romo began to press.

It didn't help that the field position sucked for Dallas to begin the game.

Garrett didn't help--- he should have had more dump-offs to the backs or short passes to the WR's in order to calm Romo down and let him work into a groove.
 
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