did we really have 10 penalties... at HOME

[rathalarge]

Where have you been? It's been like that since parcells was here also! Remember him saying, "we're too stupid"!!

 

[lurkercowboy]

Anyone who thinks Romo doesn't want to win needs to take another look at the recent Giants game. He has plenty of courage and gumption.

The trouble with the team IMO is that they are not always on the same page for some reason. I don't know why.

 

[Juke99]

Very well put Juke and "on the nosey". Jones wants to win, but he wants the drama even more, the attention and constant focus on the team is what he craves even more than winning. He is deluded into believing that he can have both somehow but the NFL doesn't work that way. Teams in turmoil don't win championships because this is a TEAM sport and it requires the players and coaches to be on the same page.

Until Jerry either grows up or turns the team over to Stephen it isn't likely to change and that is very frustrating to the fans who have stuck with the Cowboys all these years.

I watched the Giants last night. Ya NEVER hear a word about their ownership and I live in NY.

They are the quintessential "lunch pail, blue collar" team.

The Cowboys are a show...they're entertainment.

The Giants are a football team.

The Cowboys have star power. The Giants have a bunch of guys named "Ralph" on the offensive line who go out and kick the other team's butt in. It ain't glamorous...just effective.

 

[Bach]

Good post. And FWIW, I think Jerry's rationale is simple -- he thinks coaching and team chemistry is overrated and that as long as you have the best talent, you'll win.

This is why you sign Owens.
This why you sign pacman.

He's the epitome of "Joe fan". Which is clearly why "Joe fan" loves him and can't grasp what the problem is.

He's about making a big splash signing, keeping the team in the news, having a circus environment and him being in the spotlight.

But hire a quality HC and let him have control over his own staff and build team chemistry and limit distractions? No way. Heaven forbid that happen and the HC gets credit if we win.

JJ got desperate several years ago when "his way" became an abject failure and brought in BP. He now deems that four year period, when BP turned the team around, as a failure. So now he's back to running the entire show again "his way". It's true BP didn't have total success. But that doesn't mean you go away from that philosophy.

But now we're back to JJ in full control again, with a soft HC who doesn't have control over his own staff, signing several "bad character" players and inviting the circus atmosphere to town 24/7. That's not the recipe for ultimate success, but it's the formula Jerry uses in Jerryland. So unless something changes, we can pretty much expect this team to only be a tease, until the talent start to dwindle. In which case we'll be back to the Campo-years before you know it.

 

[dbair1967]

Anyone who thinks Romo doesn't want to win needs to take another look at the recent Giants game. He has plenty of courage and gumption.

The trouble with the team IMO is that they are not always on the same page for some reason. I don't know why.

Its not that we (or I) think he doesnt want to win, its that I dont think he cares that much if they lose. I dont think winning means enough to him to do as much as he can to prepare. He makes the same mistakes over and over, I dont think he's stupid either, so its something else.

 

[Juke99]

He's the epitome of "Joe fan". Which is clearly why "Joe fan" loves him and can't grasp what the problem is.

He's about making a big splash signing, keeping the team in the news, having a circus environment and him being in the spotlight.

But hire a quality HC and let him have control over his own staff and build team chemistry and limit distractions? No way. Heaven forbid that happen and the HC gets credit if we win.

JJ got desperate several years ago when "his way" became an abject failure and brought in BP. He now deems that four year period, when BP turned the team around, as a failure. So now he's back to running the entire show again "his way". It's true BP didn't have total success. But that doesn't mean you go away from that philosophy.

But now we're back to JJ in full control again, with a soft HC who doesn't have control over his own staff, signing several "bad character" players and inviting the circus atmosphere to town 24/7. That's not the recipe for ultimate success, but it's the formula Jerry uses in Jerryland. So unless something changes, we can pretty much expect this team to only be a tease, until the talent start to dwindle. In which case we'll be back to the Campo-years before you know it.

well said.

And don't forget, the hiring of Parcells was a glitz, marketing move as well. There hasn't been a coach in football with a bigger persona than Parcells in the last 20 years.

 

[dbair1967]

well said.

And don't forget, the hiring of Parcells was a glitz, marketing move as well. There hasn't been a coach in football with a bigger persona than Parcells in the last 20 years.

I'm sure that played a small role, but I really do believe Jones hired Parcells because he knew our franchise needed fixing. He looked like a beaten man that last yr or so Campo was HC. He hired Parcells and gave him control over everything, and it worked to a degree.

 

[TNCowboy]

Anyone who thinks Romo doesn't want to win needs to take another look at the recent Giants game. He has plenty of courage and gumption.

The trouble with the team IMO is that they are not always on the same page for some reason. I don't know why.

It's more than that. Sometimes he just chucks the ball up for grabs. Doing that with Ed Reed back there is suicide. He had to know that going into that game.

We've seen him play phenomenal football. We've seen him win some big regular season games. We know he is capable of getting it done.

Getting Romo straightened out is the #1 job of the upcoming offseason, IMO. I just don't see that this staff has the ability to do so. I think we desperately need someone who knows how to handle wild QBs. If he had it in him, I'd love to get Holmgren in here, but I doubt he wants to coach long-term.

 

[30yrheel]

I have been watching this team since the Staubach- Morten era.

saturday did something to me that I can't explain. For the first time in my life I am totally indifferent to what this team does now. I just don't have the energy to expend on this crap anymore.


I don't think it really matters if the Eagles have anything to play for or not.

We couldn't get this team up for a non division foe on a national stage closing out our historic stadium with all of the living former Cowboy greats witnessing.


Words can't express how I feel about that.


Maybe it's that I just can't feel anymore.



I have no excitement left for this season. none.



I didn't even watch any other games yesterday, really didn't care about any of their outcomes because it boils down to this: I have absolutely zero confidence in this team and coaches to take care of their buisness.


I guess that makes me a sorry 40+ year fan.

Good post. Man, I've been writing similar comments this year only for people here to call me bandwagon, or not a true fan, or worse.
I've actually been a diehard fan since 1964 when Meredith was QB and the Boys were still losers.
It's just frustrating to watch this team have a losing record from Nov.-Dec. for the past, what, 11 years? And no playoff wins? It's one of the worst records in the entire NFL! That's sad.
I guess fans like me got spoiled during the Landry years when we made the playoffs almost every year.

 

[Bach]

well said.

And don't forget, the hiring of Parcells was a glitz, marketing move as well. There hasn't been a coach in football with a bigger persona than Parcells in the last 20 years.

That was probably one aspect. But I think he finally was at his wits end and gave in to a known commodity to try and turn it around. What's revealing is that it took years of failure with Jerry at the helm and hiring his puppets for him to change course with BP. But even though BP did turn things around, since he didn't get the team to the SB, Jerry was more than happy to rule it a failure and take back full the reins.

You'd think he would've seen that philosophy did move the team in the right direction and he should continue on that course - having a quality HC who has full control over his staff and building team chemistry.

But just like when Jimmy left, Jerry obviously felt like once the team was already in good shape he had learned enough to run it himself. You know, sometimes fools never learn.

 

[TNCowboy]

well said.

And don't forget, the hiring of Parcells was a glitz, marketing move as well. There hasn't been a coach in football with a bigger persona than Parcells in the last 20 years.

I wish he'd look at a Cowher or Holmgren move that way. Whatever it takes.

 

[lurkercowboy]

Its not that we (or I) think he doesnt want to win, its that I dont think he cares that much if they lose. I dont think winning means enough to him to do as much as he can to prepare. He makes the same mistakes over and over, I dont think he's stupid either, so its something else.

http://bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0062/5832/romo_feature.jpg

Look at that pic from the Seattle playoff game. I think he cares about losing at least as much as us fans do.

 

[dbair1967]

http://bleacherreport.com/images_root/image_pictures/0062/5832/romo_feature.jpg

Look at that pic from the Seattle playoff game. I think he cares about losing at least as much as us fans do.

Remind me again, what yr was that?

Look at the difference between then and now, read/hear his quotes after some of these games.

It isnt the same.

 

[lurkercowboy]

So you are saying Romo has changed and cares less now? Interesting thought. I wish I knew more about how guys like Staubach, Bradshaw, Aikman, and Brady acted after playoff losses. It would be an interesting comparision. Didn't Meredith have kind of the same attitude as Romo?

 

[cowboyed]

well said.

And don't forget, the hiring of Parcells was a glitz, marketing move as well. There hasn't been a coach in football with a bigger persona than Parcells in the last 20 years.

Uhh no it wasn't. Parcells was with us for several years if you recall. I guess he is marketing glitz for the Miami ownership as well. Just because he has a big persona doesn't mean it was overtly applied for marketing.

Seriously was he on coffee cups, jerseys. Exactly how many commercials did he do? Jerry got him in here primarily for his coaching expertise and talent building capability.

Now is there a drawing power or marketing element to hiring a proven highly regarded coach. Yes, how can you avoid it, it is a natural byproduct. That effect applies to any team. But sure let's go ahead and keep perpetuating the lie that Jerry Jones is nothing but an over the top marketing freak and all veneer over substance.

 

[Everson24]

I have been watching this team since the Staubach- Morten era.

saturday did something to me that I can't explain. For the first time in my life I am totally indifferent to what this team does now. I just don't have the energy to expend on this crap anymore.


I don't think it really matters if the Eagles have anything to play for or not.

We couldn't get this team up for a non division foe on a national stage closing out our historic stadium with all of the living former Cowboy greats witnessing.


Words can't express how I feel about that.


Maybe it's that I just can't feel anymore.



I have no excitement left for this season. none.



I didn't even watch any other games yesterday, really didn't care about any of their outcomes because it boils down to this: I have absolutely zero confidence in this team and coaches to take care of their buisness.


I guess that makes me a sorry 40+ year fan.

I hear ya, I've been a fan since the Morton Staubach years and I cant remember a Cowboys team that I dislike as much as the 2008 Cowboys. Maybe the expectations were too high to begin with but just when you start to feel good about how this season is going to end they play with little to no emotion in a big game. We can never play good in all areas in the same game. If the offense is looking good the defense lets up if the D plays tough the offense continuosly goes threee and out. And dont even get me started about our special teams. The coverage units are by far the worst I've ever seen a Cowboys have.

I aggree with you I have zero confidence that Wade can get them up for even a do or die game.

 

[Monster Heel]

Count me in the "Romo's changed" club. He used to be enthusiastic and ready to "go get em". This year he comes off like a beaten man and it's not that hard to see why.

- He has a center that can't even snap the ball or figure out the snap count. Behind the line as a whole he's getting abused and they only look good when he makes them look good for the most part.

- He's getting KILLED in the media for whatever he does. He can't have a personal life without his face being plastered everywhere and people speculating about it. Whenever the Cowboys lose, no matter the circumstance, it pretty much falls on his shoulders. He's been labeled a choker. The choker label is harsh, but probably fair. Problem is it's not just him, it's the team. I can't think of a non culprit when it comes to this team falling short in big spots.

This guy is in hell right now. The only thing that can stop the burning is a deep playoff run and I doubt this team is capable of that. I don't know if they can even get in honestly. What that means is until next season all you'll hear about is how the Cowboys came up small again and non stop Romo bashing. As much as this team hurts me, I still empathize with certain figures on the team. Romo being one of them.