Difference between Old NFL and New NFL

[Doomsday101]

Players that were crapped on and traded and used , its the bidness bo.

Not all players felt that way. Walt Garrison said he was shocked to get paid the money he got playing a game, his father worked very hard and long hours and did not make what Walt did for playing a game. People and their views and attitude were also different than the me generation of today.

As I posted before I don't blame todays players for wanting to control their own careers to be able to move from team to team to make the most money they can. As a fan I liked having a team that was built to last, where players would bond closely because they spent their entire careers with each other. Different time than today

 

[skinsscalper]

It's not odd for a long time Cowboys fan to long for the old days. In today's NFL they would tank as they were notoriously cheap.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Players helped make the Star what it is.

Dooms - I get that and I have always valued, loved and appreciated former Cowboys who made the team what they are, but the team was always the love. I know the NBA is player driven and I know that there are Peyton fans who are not Bronco fans necessarily but it's always been about the Star for me.

 

[Doomsday101]

Dooms - I get that and I have always valued, loved and appreciated former Cowboys who made the team what they are, but the team was always the love. I know the NBA is player driven and I know that there are Peyton fans who are not Bronco fans necessarily but it's always been about the Star for me.

and teams move, Colts were in Baltimore they are now in Indy. Cleveland Browns became the Baltimore Ravens, LA Rams the St Louis Rams, the St. Louis Cards became the Arz cards.
I get that players leave, they retire, get traded and so forth. As for the team being the Love yes but again if Dallas was a bad team never putting together a winning season fans love of the team would not be there. I guess it is like the chicken and egg. lol

 

[ilovejerry]

Not all players felt that way. Walt Garrison said he was shocked to get paid the money he got playing a game, his father worked very hard and long hours and did not make what Walt did for playing a game. People and their views and attitude were also different than the me generation of today.

As I posted before I don't blame todays players for wanting to control their own careers to be able to move from team to team to make the most money they can. As a fan I liked having a team that was built to last, where players would bond closely because they spent their entire careers with each other. Different time than today

I hear ya, I would love my kids to hop on their bike's and go to the ball field and play like kids of my generation but the times have changed. Its just the world we live in, Im so glad I was able to be a fan of the team through the 70's till now.

 

[Doomsday101]

I hear ya, I would love my kids to hop on their bike's and go to the ball field and play like kids of my generation but the times have changed. Its just the world we live in, Im so glad I was able to be a fan of the team through the 70's till now.

I'm not disputing that at all. I'm just glad I got to experience the NFL before the days of caps and FA. As I said in my first post to think of Bob Lilly being a FA and ending up in Washington would have been unreal. I got to see many of my child hood sports idols play season after season next to one another as they fought their way to a championship. Now days with the turnover every team has it is not uncommon that the guy you hated last year is now the guy you are pulling for this year.

Just the way it is and while I still enjoy the NFL that personal bond is different

 

[KJJ]

I preferred the old NFL better not a fan of free agency hate having to worry about losing players when their contracts are done. I enjoyed it better when players were associated with one team and when you drafted a player they were yours for as long as you wanted them. Teams were built through the draft and with trades. You could keep your team together year after year now you deal with windows that may not stay open very long due to a salary cap and so much player movement.

Yes free agency has made the league more balanced but it's so difficult to keep a good team together for a number of years unless you're NE. When you have a great team everyone wants your players and with everyone having to play under a salary cap you can't keep everyone and have to make some tough decisions. I can understand those who enjoy watching players moving around this time of year but if I could do away with free agency and go back to the way it was I would.

 

[Doc50]

This is for the other old-timers like me....How many times did we hear during the games in the 1975 season......(usually Pat Summerall and Tom Brookshire)

"and that's # 26 Preston Pearson. The only player on the Dallas roster that has ever played for another NFL Team"

those were the days!

And that's how we built success, even in pre-cap years. It's even more important to draft your own now, with a few FA's added to match those that will surely leave.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Old NFL would have done the same if they could have.

I might agree to a point, .. but many many players from the 70's on back would not be caught dead in their rivals uniform.

It was just different back then.

 

[Stryker44]

Players play because they can, not because they want to.

Players love themselves more than their team.

Nobody is loyal.

We can go on and on. In less than 15 years, only drones will play the game. If that's what everyone wants, more power to them.

Sure this type of day is exciting for a few, sad for a few, and good for a few. Overall though, it's very bad for the real game of football and TEAM!!!

I agree 100 percent. Why the salary cap was shoved down our throats is nonsensical

 

[ilovejerry]

I'm not disputing that at all. I'm just glad I got to experience the NFL before the days of caps and FA. As I said in my first post to think of Bob Lilly being a FA and ending up in Washington would have been unreal. I got to see many of my child hood sports idols play season after season next to one another as they fought their way to a championship. Now days with the turnover every team has it is not uncommon that the guy you hated last year is now the guy you are pulling for this year.

Just the way it is and while I still enjoy the NFL that personal bond is different

I and I agree with you 100%.. I Also think our NFL isn't todays youth's NFL with the fantasy games and betting kids are more then likely to root for players then loyalty to a team I know kids who like 2-3 teams, I least we enjoyed it back in the day

 

[Doomsday101]

I and I agree with you 100%.. I Also think our NFL isn't todays youth's NFL with the fantasy games and betting kids are more then likely to root for players then loyalty to a team I know kids who like 2-3 teams, I least we enjoyed it back in the day

You may be right on that. My only fantasy football team is the Dallas Cowboys. lol I have been a big fan since I 1st started watching the Cowboys in 1965. It is family outing every weekend I go see my folks or they come to my house on game day and we watch the games together. As far as we are concerned those are our Dallas Cowboys and all the history that has gone into it and why not we have been there every step of the way.

 

[slick325]

I agree 100 percent. Why the salary cap was shoved down our throats is nonsensical

The owners wanted the cap. In response to players being able to become free agents and see what may be their market value, owners decided to place a cap on things. No cap in place, Dez has his deal and Murray does as well.

 

[Doomsday101]

I agree 100 percent. Why the salary cap was shoved down our throats is nonsensical

Simple reason FA, owners were not going to allow FA without some type of cap to try and maintain an even playing field. As fans of the Cowboys no cap would be great, there are many players who would love to play in Dallas and has an owner who is not afraid to pay big but other teams would always be at a disadvantage. Heck if the draft is set up to benefit the worse team over the best team.

I would love to see the league do away with the cap the very next day after FA is put to rest

 

[Doomsday101]

The owners wanted the cap. In response to players being able to become free agents and see what may be their market value, owners decided to place a cap on things. No cap in place, Dez has his deal and Murray does as well.

This is true and teams like the Cowboys would have no issue getting top players but the owners did not want a situation where bottom feeder teams would be unable to compete. I'm not saying it is perfect situation but they have to look out for the overall good of the league not what helps a few teams.

 

[KJJ]

I might agree to a point, .. but many many players from the 70's on back would not be caught dead in their rivals uniform.

It was just different back then.

It was different back then because the money was different back then and you didn't have free agency where a player and their families could be set for life financially. Trust me had the players back in the 70's had the opportunity to make the money players make today in free agency most would have gladly played for a rival if it meant having financial security for the rest of their lives. Some players during the 70's had to work during the offseason to make ends meet. Several Cowboy players had to work second jobs due to how tight Tex Schramm was.

Duane Thomas only made $25,000 a year with the Cowboys and he was forced to take on a second job during the offseason. Money changes a lot of things and most players will screw loyalty and go where the money is and it would have been the same back in the day. There's not a lot of loyalty out there because the NFL is a big money business and teams can send players packing at a moment's notice.

 

[slick325]

This is true and teams like the Cowboys would have no issue getting top players but the owners did not want a situation where bottom feeder teams would be unable to compete. I'm not saying it is perfect situation but they have to look out for the overall good of the league not what helps a few teams.

I totally understand that premise Dooms. But, I am a proponent of free agency and freedom within the workplace. We all have the freedom to seek other employment so thankfully the Curt Flood decision became a reality in Pro Football as it was in all other major sports. Guess I am just a capitalist.

 

[Doomsday101]

I totally understand that premise Dooms. But, I am a proponent of free agency and freedom within the workplace. We all have the freedom to seek other employment so thankfully the Curt Flood decision became a reality in Pro Football as it was in all other major sports. Guess I am just a capitalist.

and owners also have a right and that is why the cap was put in place. Players are granted FA and allowed to move the restriction of the cap is on the owners not on players because owners are as a whole responsible for all 32 clubs.

 

[slick325]

and owners also have a right and that is why the cap was put in place. Players are granted FA and allowed to move the restriction of the cap is on the owners not on players because owners are as a whole responsible for all 32 clubs.

Totally respect it and understand how difficult it is to find that delicate balance.

 

[Doomsday101]

Totally respect it and understand how difficult it is to find that delicate balance.

I agree it is not perfect. You have players on one side and owners on the other and it is through compromise things get done. Based on the pay I see many getting today I don't think players are being taken advantage of. Some of these guys could not spell cat if you spotted them the C and the T yet will make more money in a few years than most could make if 5 life times.