News: Difference between Seahawks, Cowboys comes from the draft

[Idgit]

Draft is important?

 

[peplaw06]

The draft is just one of the many things the Seahawks do better. The attitude of the entire franchise is better. Pete Carroll is the face of the Seahawks from a non-player standpoint. The entire roster has adopted the mentality of the coaches and they all have heart. Those guys compete for their jobs every week in practice. Their new stadium was designed to maximize fan participation in the game.

Our coach, try as he may, has to look over his shoulder all the time. The attitude of the franchise is don't cross Jerry. The players know if Jerry has devoted significant resources to the player, they can get away with more, they get complacent in their position on the roster, they will likely never get benched. Our stadium is a shrine to the owner, to opulence, artwork, and includes a massive TV screen, so the fans in the nose bleeds can see the game, and it's more like a museum inside than a stadium.

 

[links18]

no, it comes from coaching.

And management......

 

[links18]

Draft is important?

It depends on who is running it........

 

[lostar2009]

Difference between Seahawks, Cowboys comes from the draft
Posted by Mike Florio on January 29, 2014, 7:15 PM EST

Maybe Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has opted to unleash a few significant changes to his coaching staff during Super Bowl week as a diversion to a fairly bright-line comparison between his team and the current NFC champions.

The Seahawks’ superiority to the Cowboys (and the rest of the NFC) comes from the draft. For Dallas, there’s a specific apples-to-apples comparison that becomes a bad look for the ‘Boys.

As pointed out by David Moore of the Dallas Morning News, the Cowboys used a fifth-round pick in 2011 on cornerback Josh Thomas. Eleven picks later, the Seahawks picked cornerback Richard Sherman.

But that wasn’t the first time the Cowboys whiffed on a rookie who became a big-name defensive player. In 2010, the Cowboys picked safety Akwasi Owusu-Ansah . . . seven spots before the Seahawks selected safety Kam Chancellor.





http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...etween-seahawks-cowboys-comes-from-the-draft/

At first one would think dallas is being pick on. But these are guys dallas miss at the same postion in the same rounds. Its like drafting Ryan Leaf over Manning then a few years later drafting Blaine Gabbert over Cam Newton. Simple picks like this can add much needed depth on a team. I guess this is why JJ has bought in another pairs of eyes to help set up their board. Something has to be wrong when you cant develop anyone on the DL or secondary past the 1st round.

 

[rwalters31]

Difference between Seahawks, Cowboys comes from the draft
Posted by Mike Florio on January 29, 2014, 7:15 PM EST

Maybe Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has opted to unleash a few significant changes to his coaching staff during Super Bowl week as a diversion to a fairly bright-line comparison between his team and the current NFC champions.

The Seahawks’ superiority to the Cowboys (and the rest of the NFC) comes from the draft. For Dallas, there’s a specific apples-to-apples comparison that becomes a bad look for the ‘Boys.

As pointed out by David Moore of the Dallas Morning News, the Cowboys used a fifth-round pick in 2011 on cornerback Josh Thomas. Eleven picks later, the Seahawks picked cornerback Richard Sherman.

But that wasn’t the first time the Cowboys whiffed on a rookie who became a big-name defensive player. In 2010, the Cowboys picked safety Akwasi Owusu-Ansah . . . seven spots before the Seahawks selected safety Kam Chancellor.





http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...etween-seahawks-cowboys-comes-from-the-draft/

Sir, you have a good grasp of the situation! I like post like this!

 

[rwalters31]

That's only one part of it...biggest problem is JJ as the GM. If he stood back like Allen, I'm sure we might be talking about the Cowboys going for there 6th SB. We'll never know until JJ takes a dirt nap.

While!!! You are severe, sir! But you are actuate.

 

[rwalters31]

I knew he was certifiably insane when he told us he was miserable during our dynasty run. What sane owner of a sports team would feel that way?

This is the most self-centered, egomaniacal individual you will ever know.

Och! JJ could use Al Davis as an alias! At this stage, they are hard to distinguish! They will end up the same way by running the teams into the ground and fans wearing paper bags over their head, then a dirt nap!

 

[jterrell]

So all Dallas has to do is find All Pro caliber players in rounds 4 and 5 and all will be fine....

BTW, in 2011 when Dallas selected Josh Thomas (a player on the Panthers currently btw) Seattle chose Kris Durham in round 4.
He lasted a year in Seattle before ending up in Detroit.

Sherman was EASILY the best value pick in that entire friggin draft.

He was FAR better then any other Seahawks pick.

Comparing a generational hit to a single pick from another team is just Pavlovian garbage.

 

[yentl911]

Seattle has hit a few home runs that has put them over the hump - luck has something to do with it but give them credit. They have drafted better top to bottom than just about everyone in the league. Maybe everyone in the league over the last four years.

I love the home field advantage they have as well. College atmosphere. I wish JJ's Taj Mahal could be the same way - 90K screaming fans in a closed dome could be intimidating.....I can dream can't I??

 

[Alexander]

Seattle has hit a few home runs that has put them over the hump - luck has something to do with it but give them credit. They have drafted better top to bottom than just about everyone in the league. Maybe everyone in the league over the last four years.

They also have made their share of mistakes.

The key is they have quickly moved on from them and continued to attack problem areas on the roster relentlessly. They have prided themselves at looking at pretty much every single avenue to acquire talent, the draft, unrestricted free agency, undrafted free agents and trades. They have made over a thousand roster moves since 2010. When you have that many transactions, it is bound to create competition as players will fear they can and will get cut if they do not perform.

The QB position is a clear example. They traded for Charlie Whitehurst, found it wouldn't work, quickly moved on. Signed Matt Flynn but still drafted Wilson and weren't afraid to let the money speak to who would win the job. They were even able to unload Flynn for a 2014 draft choice.

 

[strasscat]

You can say the same thing about the 30 other teams that didn' pick sherman or Chancelor.
Just some Anti-Cowboys PFT garbage.

 

[chicago JK]

Every team has picks that bust or just can't play. It is a numbers game. The best drafting teams just seem to find guys late in the draft or off the street more. It is not a ton more, but a couple of difference makers In a parity league can be the difference in 8 wins to 11 wins.

Outside of Parcells stay here, Dallas has done poor finding any difference makers late in the draft. Some solid players but certainly not difference makers

 

[xwalker]

Difference between Seahawks, Cowboys comes from the draft
Posted by Mike Florio on January 29, 2014, 7:15 PM EST

Maybe Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has opted to unleash a few significant changes to his coaching staff during Super Bowl week as a diversion to a fairly bright-line comparison between his team and the current NFC champions.

The Seahawks’ superiority to the Cowboys (and the rest of the NFC) comes from the draft. For Dallas, there’s a specific apples-to-apples comparison that becomes a bad look for the ‘Boys.

As pointed out by David Moore of the Dallas Morning News, the Cowboys used a fifth-round pick in 2011 on cornerback Josh Thomas. Eleven picks later, the Seahawks picked cornerback Richard Sherman.

But that wasn’t the first time the Cowboys whiffed on a rookie who became a big-name defensive player. In 2010, the Cowboys picked safety Akwasi Owusu-Ansah . . . seven spots before the Seahawks selected safety Kam Chancellor.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...etween-seahawks-cowboys-comes-from-the-draft/

The Seahawks were so smart in identifying Sherman as a Pro Bowl type player, that they drafted 4 players before him.

1 James Carpenter (they drafted him earlier than most projections because they thought he could play OT, he couldn't and they moved him to Guard)
3 John Moffitt (traded to Denver for a practice squad DL, would have been cut otherwise)
4 K. J. Wright (starting SLB)
4 Kris Durham (cut by Seattle, became a starter in the 3rd game of this season for the Lions, career totals 49 for 645)
5 Richard Sherman

• Pro Bowl (2013)
• 2× AP First-team All-Pro (2012, 2013)
• NFC Champion (2013)
• NFL interceptions leader (2013)
• Ranked #50 in the Top 100 Players of 2013
• 3× NFC Defensive Player of The Week
• NFL Defensive Player of The Month (September 2013)
• First Seahawks Cornerback to be named NFL Defensive Player of The Month
• PFWA All-Rookie Team (2011)

 

[peplaw06]

So now it's a knock against a team if they draft a guy, but didn't draft him sooner when they could have?

Stupid Cowboys for not drafting Romo and waiting until the 3rd to take Witten.

 

[speedkilz88]

So now it's a knock against a team if they draft a guy, but didn't draft him sooner when they could have?

Stupid Cowboys for not drafting Romo and waiting until the 3rd to take Witten.

Gosh, you can really miss a point.

 

[Alexander]

The Seahawks were so smart in identifying Sherman as a Pro Bowl type player, that they drafted 4 players before him.

And Dallas was so smart they drafted seven players not including Tony Romo, Al Johnson before Jason Witten, Shante Carver before Larry Allen, James Richards before Erik Williams and Rhondy Weston before Tony Tolbert.

Great point, that should set everyone straight.

 

[peplaw06]

Gosh, you can really miss a point.

I didn't miss anything. It's a ******** point.

 

[arglebargle]

I didn't miss anything. It's a ******** point.

It's just a point you don't want to acknowledge as legit. Now if you could show a bunch of teams consistently hitting on late round picks, you might have something. Instead of an outlier or anomoly.

 

[Redball Express]

Difference between Seahawks, Cowboys comes from the draft
Posted by Mike Florio on January 29, 2014, 7:15 PM EST

Maybe Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has opted to unleash a few significant changes to his coaching staff during Super Bowl week as a diversion to a fairly bright-line comparison between his team and the current NFC champions.

The Seahawks’ superiority to the Cowboys (and the rest of the NFC) comes from the draft. For Dallas, there’s a specific apples-to-apples comparison that becomes a bad look for the ‘Boys.

As pointed out by David Moore of the Dallas Morning News, the Cowboys used a fifth-round pick in 2011 on cornerback Josh Thomas. Eleven picks later, the Seahawks picked cornerback Richard Sherman.

But that wasn’t the first time the Cowboys whiffed on a rookie who became a big-name defensive player. In 2010, the Cowboys picked safety Akwasi Owusu-Ansah . . . seven spots before the Seahawks selected safety Kam Chancellor.





http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...etween-seahawks-cowboys-comes-from-the-draft/

This carries a lot of weight to me.

We have whiffed on way too many draft picks by reaching and projecting a players' potential 2-3 years down the line and draft them cheaply and then invest enormous coaching into them with low ball results.