Diggs is a shutdown corner

[Diehardblues]

Honestly I don’t even believe he’s giving that many explosive plays this year

I understand . Facts are humbling. Don’t believe them

 

[817Gill]

I’m not here to hate on diggs but the info from the OP is wrong.

1) you hardly see CBS shadow receivers anymore.
2) they threw at diggs yesterday and he gave up a long pass w safety help
3) his off grade is from being bad in the run game.

love diggs, he’s a CB1 in the nfl. He’s still prone to giving up big plays but I’ll take it given the upside he had. Is he shutdown? No

Might be nitpicking but he does follow the #1 every single game. He does not stay on one side.

 

[xwalker]

What he did to

scary terry(twice)
Mike Evans
Jefferson


Is stellar

I honestly don’t even understand the Mathematics behind PFF rankings

the eye test is clear: Diggs is the man

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/did-a-cowboys-cb-allow-zero-receptions.490465/

 

[big dog cowboy]

2) they threw at diggs yesterday and he gave up a long pass w safety help

Not exactly. You call that safety help? He had ZERO impact on that play. Showed up late, didn't look for the ball and was out of position.

 

[xwalker]

He takes chances and is aggressive. Sure he'll give up some yards but the man has 11 Interceptions that has changed games.

There's absolutely no way that most yards against stat is true. If it were it would be pretty obvious watching the games because he would be getting beat all the time which he definitely is not.

If he has given up the most yards in the league surely he would have a lot of tackles then? Anthony Brown has more tackles than him.

1: Yes, determining which player allowed a reception is often difficult, especially in zone coverage.

2: Diggs does give up some yards because of his style of play.
- He takes some chances going for INTs.
- Dan Quinn allows him to play that style.
- Diggs does play within the scheme and knows where his help defenders are located.
- Most of the big plays he has 'allowed' are questionable between being his fault or the fault of FS Kazee.
- If Diggs knows Kazee is in good position over the top, then Diggs will always play under the WR.
- PFF considers those types of plays as the fault of both Diggs and Kazee.

 

[VaqueroTD]

Diggs is significantly better than people give him credit for. He has 1 major defect and it’s the reason why people misevaluate his game. He cannot tackle. He gives up a ton of yards after the catch. People don’t burn Diggs - yes he gets beat deep on occasion- he’s never and I mean never absolutely roasted where the WR is walking into the end zone.

But he gives up a lot of short passes that go for long long gains and that makes his number look for worse than they should be. But he isn’t getting burned. He just isn’t willing to tackle. Big difference.

people say dumb crap like, he takes gambles and blah blah. Shut up. If that were true , receivers would be running free, that never happens.

he’s the worst tackling CB in the nfl. If that’s the stamp you want to put on him. At least get it right. He’s damn good in covers and has ELITE ball skills. Second to none. Coverage is good and improving. Tackling is awful and not improving.

those are the facts

Like we did with Dak, I like going back to these guy’s draft reports. Really helps with the guys that are trying to turn the corner to greatness and spells out what they’ve need to improve from NCAA to NFL days.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/bucky-brooks-scouting-report-on-trevon-diggs

• Name: Trevon Diggs
• Position: CB
• College: Alabama
• Height: 6-1
• Weight: 205
• Season: Rookie

Overview:

Diggs is a long, lanky with exceptional instincts, awareness, and ball skills. The former four-star receiver-turned-cornerback finished his career at Alabama with 68 tackles, four interceptions, 17 PBUs, two forced fumbles, and two fumble recoveries in four seasons while logging 19 total starts. He also has experience as a return specialist, as evidenced by his solid numbers as a kick returner 15 returns for 357 yards, 23.8 avg.) and punt returner (31 returns for 184 yards, 9.1 avg.)

As a cover corner, Diggs is a bump-and-run specialist with a shadow boxer's game at the line of scrimmage. He feints and flashes his hands while mirroring receivers early in routes. He relies more on finesse than physicality but his patience, footwork and keen understanding of departure angles enable him to maintain hip pocket leverage on receivers down the field. Diggs excels at pinning receivers to the sideline and disrupting their path to the football (in flight) with his low shoulder body positioning.

Although he frequently looks like he is in chase mode when covering receivers, he routinely in an ideal position to defend under-thrown balls while also flashing the length and leaping ability to swat on-target tosses. Diggs' combination of length and leaping ability condenses the windows for quarterbacks and discourages opponents from throwing at him in critical moments.

In coverage, Diggs displays exceptional diagnostic skills and route concept awareness. He frequently works around potential picks and rubs to get into proper position on his assigned receiver. Moreover, he will anticipate the throw on those picks and come down with interceptions. Diggs' overall awareness and understanding of the passing game is certainly impressive for a player with limited experience at the position.

As a run defender, Diggs will hustle to the ball and throw his body around in an attempt to get receivers and ball carriers to the ground but he rates as an inconsistent tackler. He has a handful of missed tackles that show up on the tape and he must improve in this area or runs the risk of being viewed as a liability against the run.

Strengths:

• Exceptional instincts, awareness and ball skills
• Athletic bump-and-run CB with a shadow boxing style that frustrates receivers
• Versatile game that works well in a man or zone-based scheme
• Punt/Kick return skills

Weaknesses:

• Questionable top-end speed
• Inconsistent tackler

What are scouts saying?

"Diggs has the best ball skills in the draft… He doesn't have great top-end speed but he plays with outstanding instincts, anticipation, and awareness. If plays with better effort and commits to the grind instead of cruising, he could become one of the top cover corners in the game...He's that talented!"

How does he fit in with the Cowboys?

Diggs is a ball-hawking cover corner with the length, athleticism, and instincts to thrive on the island in the Cowboys' new scheme. As a natural press-corner with long arms and outstanding awareness, he could quickly emerge a solid starter and key contributor in a defense that's expected to feature more "Quarters Press" coverage on the outside. Diggs' ability to challenge receivers in bump-and-run while mixing in some bail technique (side-shuffle) will enable Mike Nolan to vary his pre-snap disguises and coverage without tipping off the quarterback. In addition, Diggs' superior ball skills, diagnostic skills, and overall awareness should help the Cowboys generate more turnovers with the frontline pressure resulting in more tipped passes and errant throws from the pocket. If Diggs can become a more consistent tackler and embrace a more physical style, he should be able to make an impact early in his career as a starting corner.

 

[xwalker]

I’m not here to hate on diggs but the info from the OP is wrong.

1) you hardly see CBS shadow receivers anymore.
2) they threw at diggs yesterday and he gave up a long pass w safety help
3) his off grade is from being bad in the run game.

love diggs, he’s a CB1 in the nfl. He’s still prone to giving up big plays but I’ll take it given the upside he had. Is he shutdown? No

Diggs did shadow WR McLaurin yesterday...

 

[fivetwos]

Semantics probably, but there's only one guy who fits the true definition of that term....the guy it was invented based on.

And that's why Deion is the best player of all time. There have been plenty of other LT replicas....never another Prime.

Maybe again, but I've not seen it yet.

Oh and uh.....yeah he played offense too, and major league baseball.....ha.

That guy is vastly underrated and should be a Michael Jordan type of brand.

I'm proud that 21 once played for our team.

 

[CrownCowboy]

1: Yes, determining which player allowed a reception is often difficult, especially in zone coverage.

2: Diggs does give up some yards because of his style of play.
- He takes some chances going for INTs.
- Dan Quinn allows him to play that style.
- Diggs does play within the scheme and knows where his help defenders are located.
- Most of the big plays he has 'allowed' are questionable between being his fault or the fault of FS Kazee.
- If Diggs knows Kazee is in good position over the top, then Diggs will always play under the WR.
- PFF considers those types of plays as the fault of both Diggs and Kazee.

So I guess we are in agreement then.

 

[Streifenkarl]

1: Yes, determining which player allowed a reception is often difficult, especially in zone coverage.

2: Diggs does give up some yards because of his style of play.
- He takes some chances going for INTs.
- Dan Quinn allows him to play that style.
- Diggs does play within the scheme and knows where his help defenders are located.
- Most of the big plays he has 'allowed' are questionable between being his fault or the fault of FS Kazee.
- If Diggs knows Kazee is in good position over the top, then Diggs will always play under the WR.
- PFF considers those types of plays as the fault of both Diggs and Kazee.

Dan Quinn can only afford to allow him to play like that because the rest of the defense is at an absolute A level. It'll be interesting to see whether he tones down his risky approach to defend top receivers when the good QBs come to town.

If someone asks me how to describe Diggs' play this year then I'd tell him to watch the NE game. That interception was awesome but in the very next drive he was burned like a high schooler. That was head scratching. His season in a nutshell.

 

[Seven]

There's absolutely no way that most yards against stat is true. If it were it would be pretty obvious watching the games because he would be getting beat all the time which he definitely is not.

If he has given up the most yards in the league surely he would have a lot of tackles then? Anthony Brown has more tackles than him.

What?

 

[JBS]

Dan Quinn can only afford to allow him to play like that because the rest of the defense is at an absolute A level. It'll be interesting to see whether he tones down his risky approach to defend top receivers when the good QBs come to town.

If someone asks me how to describe Diggs' play this year then I'd tell him to watch the NE game. That interception was awesome but in the very next drive he was burned like a high schooler. That was head scratching. His season in a nutshell.

and you would be giving these people the worst game to watch. Good job.

 

[Aulac]

What he did to

scary terry(twice)
Mike Evans
Jefferson


Is stellar

I honestly don’t even understand the Mathematics behind PFF rankings

the eye test is clear: Diggs is the man

So let me be clear, you rather have Diggs than Ramsey?

 

[JBS]

So let me be clear, you rather have Diggs than Ramsey?

You mean Ramsey who let Jefferson go for 8/116 when there is no other weapon on the Vikings offense? Just asking

 

[CouchCoach]

Before last night, he had given up 899 yards in receptions, the worst of the starting CB's in the league. Byron Jones was more of a shut down.

He is a very talented CB with exceptional call skills. It is those ball skills that got him into the PB.

 

[Aulac]

You mean Ramsey who let Jefferson go for 8/116 when there is no other weapon on the Vikings offense? Just asking

He wasn't on Jefferson the whole time. Morris is a bad DC.

 

[JBS]

He wasn't on Jefferson the whole time. Morris is a bad DC.

He wasn’t on him the entire time. That is true. But that is my point. If he’s so good, why not? Minnesota literally has nobody else that needs any attention.

 

[KJJ]

He still gives up plays but he makes a lot of plays. He takes a lot of chances so it’s always going to be feast or famine with him. To get picks you got to take chances. He’s a bonafide playmaker.

 

[D4KADON]

I mean...we're all entitled to our own feeling, but not our own facts

I’m being serious though. I remember when Mike Jenkins was getting torched

diggs not so much

 

[D4KADON]

So let me be clear, you rather have Diggs than Ramsey?

I would rather have Diggs the player and the teammate
Than Ramsey

he comes across as a total a s s