Dismal five (5) year performances against better opponents

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Yes….and they don’t get it at all.

Stephen was asked about exactly this a few months ago. He boasted of the 12 win seasons and the playoff excuse was that “sometimes that oblong ball doesn’t bounce the right way.”

Really?? THATS the difference in THREE more playoff games in a row? No, it isn’t.
That can work in a 21-20 type of game....A blowout loss to GB isnt luck. Multiple games in a row also isnt luck...I really want to like Stephen because he is the only hope we have for the future, but man does he just sound like a guy who either doesn't know or doesnt care about football very much.
 

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Quinns defense held a Niners offense that was averaging 35 ppg to 19 points, on the road.


That loss was on the fat head coach and sorry QB, like usual
I've had in depth discussions with the untouchable posters clan here on how the Cowboys totally, and I mean totally, shut down that 49er run game.
To the tune of it should have read as headlines the following day about how the defense won that game by such a stingy run dee.
Like I said, the powers that be here tried to claim the same narrative of blaming it on the run defense.
Or defense in general for that game.

When in reality it was an epic fail by the QB and his coach.

Some here need to rewatch that game without the preconceived notion that the dee will lose it for the team.
I guess they would rather stick with their tired run dee lost it narrative.
 

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It didn't say sucked. His defenses never had a great day vs good offenses in December/January. Not one. People love to go to the 2022 niner playoff game like that was a great performance. No. There are no great playoff performances with no turnovers. Green Bay played great defense against us though. Aggressive, physical, tonesetting, turnovers etc. Our defense at best holds on for dear life
I mean saying they were great is subjective. You can't stop the run. How can you be great with no interior presence?
 

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I've had in depth discussions with the untouchable posters clan here on how the Cowboys totally, and I mean totally shut down that 49er run game.
To the tune of it should have read as headlines the following day about how the defense won that game by such a stingy run dee.
Like I said, the powers that be here tried to claim the same narrative of blaming it on the run defense.
Or defense in general for that game.

Some here need to rewatch that game without the preconceived notion that the dee will lose it for the team.
I guess they would rather stick with their tired run dee lost it narrative.
I felt this way when I Saw the game but I rewatched it and confirmed what I already thought. The 49ers played conservative. If they needed to they could've scored 30 on us. They didn't need to because the offense sucked .
 

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Good enough isn't good enough for Dak. He needs great defensive performances. I'm not about to keep watching the same show expecting something different. The offense won't change as long as Dak is here. Put saquon on the 2022 team and niners still win. Does anybody doubt that?
I don’t know that’s a good question . If I was going to point out one post season loss that would lean Dak being a big reason we lost that was it. We also didn’t have many weapons and when pollard went down we had lamb and that’s bout it

I don’t believe saquan makes a huge difference because he wouldn’t be running behind the eagles line he’d be running behind ours and he’s a different back in Philly because they have a legitimate roster from top to bottom

Their QB is as flawed as ours maybe more but their team top to bottom is better than ours and most in the league
 

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I felt this way when I Saw the game but I rewatched it and confirmed what I already thought. The 49ers played conservative. If they needed to they could've scored 30 on us. They didn't need to because the offense sucked .
I rewatched it too after receiving certain responses of my original posts on game day.
What I saw was the Cowboy defense dictated that conservative playcalling. So I guess I saw it differently.

But the HC and QB were the main reason for the loss.
 

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I rewatched it too after receiving certain responses of my original posts on game day.
What I saw was the Cowboy defense dictated that conservative playcalling. So I guess I saw it differently.

But the HC and QB were the main reason for the loss.
They couldn't stop Deebo and Kittle......I know the box score said they did somewhat but watching that game they just had their way.

We didn't lose because of the defense. They had a few plays that pissed me off they didn't make like the Diggs interception.....but the offense and Dak for sure the worst part especially when Pollard went down. Any shot we had of that game was gone with him.
 

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That can work in a 21-20 type of game....A blowout loss to GB isnt luck. Multiple games in a row also isnt luck...I really want to like Stephen because he is the only hope we have for the future, but man does he just sound like a guy who either doesn't know or doesnt care about football very much.
Yep, simply getting beat is one thing. That happens constantly, and doesn’t happen to only one team per season. That’s why it’s tough to use SB wins as a barometer.

It’s something WAY different to not have been good enough in the first place, and not even have truly been in the mix to advance deep into the postseason.

The structure is a full mess and there’s a reason why no other pro sports team is aligned this way. Apparently no amount of futility is going to convince Jerry that this is anything but an “advantage.”
 

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Great, factual article.
Appreciate the post.

Kinda clears up ANY and ALL questions as to McFraud's inability to do the job he was hired to do.

He has failed.
I agree with you, and he shouldn’t be extended when you examine the facts, but that doesn’t take one thing into account….what’s the alternative?

It’s kinda like the QB. Worth that money? No way, but what are the other options?

Really, I don’t think too many would actually work here. They’d have to be a retread that no one else wants or someone that isn’t ready. Stephen actually admitted that “they hadn’t thought about it” just a couple of weeks ago. Seriously?? They have no other options, Jerry is going to have to over pay (in his mind) for MM, then he will resent that and tell him to do “more with less” because of his paycheck.

This is headed right into the ground one way or another.
 

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what's his best win? you could say the playoff win, but that was against an 8-9 team. Blew out Minnesota on the road 2 years ago, that team lost to Daniel Jones in the playoffs. I guess Detroit last year, in controversial fashion.

Like 0-5 against SF, dominated by KC, dominated by Buffalo, dominated by Baltimore.
 

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They couldn't stop Deebo and Kittle......I know the box score said they did somewhat but watching that game they just had their way.

We didn't lose because of the defense. They had a few plays that pissed me off they didn't make like the Diggs interception.....but the offense and Dak for sure the worst part especially when Pollard went down. Any shot we had of that game was gone with him.
Ya the Diggs olay with kittle ( business decision) and his dropped pick but no weapons and Dak and the coach being bad were probably as big if not bigger
 

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Ya the Diggs olay with kittle ( business decision) and his dropped pick but no weapons and Dak and the coach being bad were probably as big if not bigger
Exactly. This is why I say people need to go back and watch that game. The box score doesn't tell the story. Now in good conscience I can't sit here and blame the defense but the game proved in itself why they weren't a championship defense. Or team for that matter. You don't get many plays to take advantage of in the playoffs. But when they come you take advantage. This team just doesn't.
 

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I've had in depth discussions with the untouchable posters clan here on how the Cowboys totally, and I mean totally, shut down that 49er run game.
To the tune of it should have read as headlines the following day about how the defense won that game by such a stingy run dee.
Like I said, the powers that be here tried to claim the same narrative of blaming it on the run defense.
Or defense in general for that game.

When in reality it was an epic fail by the QB and his coach.

Some here need to rewatch that game without the preconceived notion that the dee will lose it for the team.
I guess they would rather stick with their tired run dee lost it narrative.
Yes D was excellent that game
Pollard getting hurt killed us
 

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Exactly. This is why I say people need to go back and watch that game. The box score doesn't tell the story. Now in good conscience I can't sit here and blame the defense but the game proved in itself why they weren't a championship defense. Or team for that matter. You don't get many plays to take advantage of in the playoffs. But when they come you take advantage. This team just doesn't.
People have their narratives and they will continue to pimp them as they don’t want to be wrong

The cowboys have not had a good enough roster to win it all since 16 IMO.

Even then the defense was suspect. (I hate Byron jones lol.)

I think having an elite qb helps but I’d say being good in the trenches is more important

Jerry jones is the biggest reason we have been playoff failure. IMO he refuses to let someone more qualified take the gm role

He makes me sick which is why I have tempered expectations annually
 

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I don’t know that’s a good question . If I was going to point out one post season loss that would lean Dak being a big reason we lost that was it. We also didn’t have many weapons and when pollard went down we had lamb and that’s bout it

I don’t believe saquan makes a huge difference because he wouldn’t be running behind the eagles line he’d be running behind ours and he’s a different back in Philly because they have a legitimate roster from top to bottom

Their QB is as flawed as ours maybe more but their team top to bottom is better than ours and most in the league
He definitely was more at fault in that one but like, how much offensive help do people think we'd need? Put Jefferson with ceedee too. How does it change? Niners we're playing zone so it's not like wrs are able to do much. If anything to help Dak the most get him an all world oline, second a defense, third a running back. Last is receivers. I wouldn't get him any pass catchers this year.

I just think most fans don't understand how Dallas can get the most out of Dak. A "good enough" defense ain't it
 
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