Disturbing Job Ads: 'The Unemployed Will Not Be Considered'

[tomson75]

No, it should be legal. And it should be legal to hire/not hire, or fire/not fire anyone you want for any reason you want.

I see your poor taste isn't limited to the cinema.

Your farts stank yesterday. You're fired.

I don't like people from South Dakota. You're fired.

Your mom works at a quilt factory? Fired!

You quit your job to further your education during an economic depression? Don't even apply.



Dumb.

 

[YosemiteSam]

That should be illegal.

Not all unemployed people are "desperate".

Some employed people are desperate. :laugh2:

 

[Maikeru-sama]

This is nothing new.

Quite a few companies will not even look at you if you are not employed. One of my former co-workers told me that her own brother-in-law wouldn't even consider her because he had a policy of not hiring people that didn't have a job.

Most companies want the best talent they can find and whether it is perception or reality, they feel the folks that still have jobs are the ones that a company would not part with because they are crucial and/or are the most talented.

When I got laid off 2 years ago (Software Developer) from one of Centex Homes' child mortgage companies, who got bought out by Pulte last year, I really didn't have a problem with this perception because they just saw that it was a mortgage company and new how bad that industry was hurting.

That is why they say, "The best time to look for a job is when you have one".

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Also, it is a known fact that because the other generations replacing the "Baby Boomer" Generation are not as big, there will be a huge shortage of workers, especially in highly technical industries.

So right now, employers have the upper hand but studies show, even if the U.S. were to increase the number of visas to foreign workers, there will be a huge labor shortage and it will be an "Employee's Market". I read an article a few years back that said that employers will have to offer a lot of incentives to keep the best workers from leaving.

But it's all about labor force participation.
Due to aging baby boomer's, if current retirement trends continue then a huge wave of adult Americans will drop out of the work force due to retirement.
This means that while the adult population will grow faster than job growth over the next ten years, the labor force will only grow by 9.1 million people, which is far less than the amount of jobs the U.S. economy could need as it progresses.

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[Seven]

We got spun off and later purchased by a rival. The new company kept us around long enough to sponge our technology and experience, all the while patting us on the back and relaying that they couldn't be happier to have us onboard.


They laid every last one of us off within a year and a half. Mass layoff. I got a raise 2 weeks before being released. (????) Bought into their schtick hook, line and sinker. I had 10+ years. Some had 25+. 6 months shy of retirinig and were not honored their pension/retirement plan. We are all not employed because we were lazy, incompetent or didn't have the skillset(s).


There is a ****load of talent out there. This form of hiring practice convolutes what a company should be trying to accomplish.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

We got spun off and later purchased by a rival. The new company kept us around long enough to sponge our technology and experience, all the while patting us on the back and relaying that they couldn't be happier to have us onboard.


They laid every last one of us off within a year and a half. Mass layoff. I got a raise 2 weeks before being released. (????) Bought into their schtick hook, line and sinker. I had 10+ years. Some had 25+. 6 months shy of retirinig and were not honored their pension/retirement plan. We are all not employed because we were lazy, incompetent or didn't have the skillset(s).


There is a ****load of talent out there. This form of hiring practice convolutes what a company should be trying to accomplish.

Yep, I got laid off for the first time in 2008 and my view of "corporate loyalty" changed.

During the layoffs, I saw guys that worked for Centex for 2-3 decades get treated like they were criminals.

Heck, when I finally got the boot, I couldn't walk anywhere in the building without my Manager or his boss with me.

I'm no longer "loyal" to any of my employers and once I perceive that a better opportunity has comes along, I will put the standard 2 weeks in and jump ship and won't even entertain counters.

 

[DFWJC]

Calm down folks....see the source.
Hard to get less credible than the Huffington Post. :laugh2:

Regarding the general slant of the article....this has always been the case to some small degree but is not even remotley true overall.

 

[Seven]

Yep, I got laid off for the first time in 2008 and my view of "corporate loyalty" changed.

During the layoffs, I saw guys that worked for Centex for 2-3 decades get treated like they were criminals.

Heck, when I finally got the boot, I couldn't walk anywhere in the building without my Manager or his boss with me.

I'm no longer "loyal" to any of my employers and once I perceive that a better opportunity has comes along, I will put the standard 2 weeks in and jump ship and won't even entertain counters.

I think that's the biggest deal for me. The loyality aspect. There is none. I think thats why it hit so hard because I believed these folks. I still can't believe how the more senior guys were treated. I, personally, was laid-off by a person I'd never even met(being we were purchased) until the day of.

"Thanks. Here ya go. Give me this, this and this. Bye."

 

[DFWJC]

Yep, I got laid off for the first time in 2008 and my view of "corporate loyalty" changed.

During the layoffs, I saw guys that worked for Centex for 2-3 decades get treated like they were criminals.

Heck, when I finally got the boot, I couldn't walk anywhere in the building without my Manager or his boss with me.

I'm no longer "loyal" to any of my employers and once I perceive that a better opportunity has comes along, I will put the standard 2 weeks in and jump ship and won't even entertain counters.

No doubt that it's a different world now...and has been for 20 years. It's a sad reality.

Many (most?) companies are not loyal to the employees and many (most?)employees are not loyal to the companies. Kind of like pro sports.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I think that's the biggest deal for me. The loyality aspect. There is none. I think thats why it hit so hard because I believed these folks. I still can't believe how the more senior guys were treated. I, personally, was laid-off by a person I'd never even met(being we were purchased) until the day of.

"Thanks. Here ya go. Give me this, this and this. Bye."

I here ya.

I actually volunteered to go. A few years back, I had got another job offer but was talked into staying by my boss, with promises that the reasons why I wanted to leave would be fixed and of course they weren't.

Anyway, I knew what the job market was like and figured I could get a job. So when we had our "BS Upper Management Q/A" meeting, I asked if we could volunteer to be laid off. They were going on about how everyone would get a package and I knew that if you waited too long, all that money would be gone, so I volunteered and everyone thought I was crazy. My boss asked me like 3 times, if I was sure. Later on, I found out that people were not getting packages, so I knew I made the right decision.

No doubt that it's a different world now...and has been for 20 years. It's a sad reality.

Many (most?) companies are not loyal to the employees and many (most?)employees are not loyal to the companies. Kind of like pro sports.

This is true.

I've always said, one of the best things to happen to me was being laid off in 2008. I wish I could have experienced my first layoff in my early 20s versus my late 20s.

 

[Jon88]

I was out of work from February until a few weeks ago and it was really stressful. I'm glad I have this job and I make OK at it, but man is it boring. It's either competely dead, or busy as hell. When the economy gets better I'm outta here.

 

[Hoofbite]

Soon to be NASA contractors, maybe?

I know quite a few people who work there who are waiting for pink slips.

I saw an article and I think a video of a guy at NASA who is most likely going to be without a job soon. Pretty screwed up.

 

[Faerluna]

Calm down folks....see the source.
Hard to get less credible than the Huffington Post. :laugh2:

Regarding the general slant of the article....this has always been the case to some small degree but is not even remotley true overall.

But Fox News/Glenn Beck/Rush Limbaugh sure do a good job of it.

By general slant, let's assume you mean general topic, since the wording within the job posting is a fact, not an opinion. There can be no slant or bias in this case, which you are inferring due to the article source.

 

[DFWJC]

But Fox News/Glenn Beck/Rush Limbaugh sure do a good job of it.

By general slant, let's assume you mean general topic, since the wording within the job posting is a fact, not an opinion. There can be no slant or bias in this case, which you are inferring due to the article source.

Fair enough.

 

[CoCo]

Yep, I got laid off for the first time in 2008 and my view of "corporate loyalty" changed.

During the layoffs, I saw guys that worked for Centex for 2-3 decades get treated like they were criminals.

Heck, when I finally got the boot, I couldn't walk anywhere in the building without my Manager or his boss with me.

I'm no longer "loyal" to any of my employers and once I perceive that a better opportunity has comes along, I will put the standard 2 weeks in and jump ship and won't even entertain counters.

I wouldn't be quite so absolute about it. You can't paint every organization with the same brush. That said, you can't be foolish either.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I wouldn't be quite so absolute about it. You can't paint every organization with the same brush. That said, you can't be foolish either.

And part of "not being foolish", is to understand that there is very little loyalty now days.

 

[bbgun]

Good question from Instapundit: So does this open an economic niche for people who provide fake jobs for unemployed applicants?

 

[ZeroClub]

I wonder how many of the people who refuse to hire the unemployed will themselves be unemployed one day.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I wonder how many of the people who refuse to hire the unemployed will themselves be unemployed one day.

So you are wondering if Karma will get them? :laugh2:

Maybe their motto should be, we would rather hire an unloyal employed worker than take a chance of getting a loyal unemployed worker.

 

[Jon88]

I think it's illegal to post a disclaimer like that.

You can't deny someone an application.

Who do they think they are? "We're so good we only accept people who have jobs."