DLaw looking for 6 years, $140 mil with $85 garuanteed

Rayman70 · Mar 28, 2019

StarBoyz83 said:
He'd have to sign the tag to be traded. Which I'm sure he would do if they had a trade he liked setup.

EXACTLY...plus if the team he was headed to already had the parameters of a long term deal worked out.

Corso · Mar 28, 2019

Cowboys22 said:
Have to sign to be traded. Once tagged, he is treated as under contract. If he doesn’t sign it or a new deal by July 15, then he can only play under the tag this season.

"Players may sign the tender at any point after officially being tagged. Until the tender is inked, the team can rescind the franchise or transition tag. Once the sheet is signed, the player's salary is guaranteed for that season. If a player does not sign the tender, they remain without a contract, and therefore are not subject to fine schedules for skipping offseason workouts (as we saw with Bell last year). A player who has not signed the tender can also not be traded."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...se-tag-primer-teams-can-start-tagging-players

Doomsday101 · Mar 28, 2019

Corso said:
"Players may sign the tender at any point after officially being tagged. Until the tender is inked, the team can rescind the franchise or transition tag. Once the sheet is signed, the player's salary is guaranteed for that season. If a player does not sign the tender, they remain without a contract, and therefore are not subject to fine schedules for skipping offseason workouts (as we saw with Bell last year). A player who has not signed the tender can also not be traded."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...se-tag-primer-teams-can-start-tagging-players

True he also does not get paid until he signs it. I don't fore see Lawrence skipping out on 20 million dollars he may skip OTA but in the end if his play is not great after this season I doubt many teams will be lining up to pay him even more money so the incentive for him to play good ball is still there.

Hawkeye0202 · Mar 28, 2019

6 years, $140M, $85M guaranteed .......other words, he's looking 4 years $21.5M per year. The 6 years, $140M means little or nothing coz he never going to see that.

Roadtrip635 · Mar 28, 2019

Rayman70 said:
Raiders would give us a 1 and a 2 in this years draft..I promise you that...and maybe even a future conditional 3rd.

The Raiders would not do that, they didn't want to give Mack, Mack Money, then they have to give up draft picks too? They'll take their chances in the draft, in a DL deep draft at that.

Sydla · Mar 28, 2019

Cowboys22 said:
They can trade him right now if they have a trading partner. However, no team is going to trade for him unless they have a long term deal worked out with him ahead of time.

No they can not. Right from the NFL website it says this........

A player who has not signed the tender can also not be traded.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...se-tag-primer-teams-can-start-tagging-players

Corso · Mar 28, 2019

Sydla said:
No they can not. Right from the NFL website it says this........

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...se-tag-primer-teams-can-start-tagging-players

I handled it.

ESisback · Mar 28, 2019

CouchCoach said:
Not a bad idea, they're probably tired of hearing "pay the man" by a bunch of mathematically challenged fans. Those fans should have no problem with the old Booger, who did exactly that

Those same fans would then gripe about Jerry paying too much.

pacy · Mar 28, 2019

Sydla said:
Again, doesn't he need to sign the tag for the Cowboys to be able to trade him?

He could simply say screw you and not sign the tag. Then the Cowboys are stuck, right?

Yes, but Tank could agree to a trade especially if he will get the money he wants.

glimmerman · Mar 28, 2019

He could sign the tag at the last second and have his surgery and miss part of the season and still get his 20 million. That would be a slap in the face by D-Law and not his agent.

Sydla · Mar 28, 2019

Cowboys22 said:
Have to sign to be traded. Once tagged, he is treated as under contract. If he doesn’t sign it or a new deal by July 15, then he can only play under the tag this season.

Inaccurate.

glimmerman · Mar 28, 2019

Hawkeye0202 said:
6 years, $140M, $85M guaranteed .......other words, he's looking 4 years $21.5M per year. The 6 years, $140M means little or nothing coz he never going to see that.

Don’t try to make it look reasonable. Lol..

Mountaineerfan · Mar 28, 2019

Well bye!

StarBoyz83 · Mar 28, 2019

JW82 said:
Put him on the block. If you can get a 1, take it. If not pull the tag and take the comp pick next year. I would tell the agent go out and see if someone wants to pay you and we’ll work out a trade.

Might get a 3rd or 4th for him that's about it.

cowboys1985 · Mar 28, 2019

Doomsday101 said:
Let me say Watts missed most of the past 2 season and came back this season to post 16 sacks. DLaw is a good player do I put him within the top 5 outside rushers maybe, do I put him in the top 3? No. Dallas is offering up a deal that makes him the highest paid DE in the NFL I'm fine with it but the actions by DLaw agent or DLaw himself of then jacking the price higher? Not ok with that. I don't expect him to give some discount and Dallas at this stage is not offering up a low ball or discount price we are talking the highest paid DE in the league. So any notion he has leverage? Dallas has clear cut option available to them and should DLaw continue down this path I think Dallas may very well use them. Dallas was able to win games during the second half of the season when DLaw play was not stellar they are not going to sink should they be forced to move on from him

It's fine to question the negotiating tactics of Lawrence and his agent. But to be honest, I also question the tactics of the Cowboys. They could have had this done last year for less money, but decided to play hardball using the Tag. They should have had the forsight that this could happen. But since tagging him, not only was Lawrence great, Mack's deal came and blew up the market for pass rushers.

I'm not here to argue whether Lawrence is worth that money, I'm just saying he's likely to find that. And if so is Dallas prepared to have a backup plan? People reference the Patriots, but they always have replacements? Does Dallas have someone in the pipeline to replace him? Knowing all this, why wouldn't Lawrence ask for the moon and then some?

Doomsday101 · Mar 28, 2019

Fact is 16 guys had more sacks last season than Lawrence. He is a good player again top? elite? NO he is not. People will talk of teams (mainly Jerry) over valuing players yet I think some players over value themselves.

Flamma · Mar 28, 2019

cowboys1985 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but if Dallas pulls the tag they can't even trade him. So they'll lose him for nothing other than a compensatory pick. So there's no way they going to do that. And Tank will get something close to that in the open market, so many teams need a pass rusher. Teams like the Colts and Bills have plenty of cap space and desperate for pass rush help. They'll overpay for that type of talent.

Teams like the Colts and Bills have it to spend. But we're yet to see if they want to spend that on Tank. That's not a guarantee. Besides that, how many times have we seen big contracts signed by players on crap teams that end in nothing? Suh for example with the Dolphins. Some players just don't care where they go, they just want to make a fortune and couldn't care less if the team wins or not. At this moment the Cowboys can't compete against those teams. I'm just thinking team. I don't care about Lawrence the person. What he ends up making is still up in the air. Yes he'll probably make close to that, but is 20M a year close? That's what we're currently offering if I'm not mistaken.

Cowboys22 · Mar 28, 2019

Sydla said:
Inaccurate.

Dee Ford was franchised this season by KC and immediately they began looking to trade him which they did for a 2nd round pick. He never signed the tender. Instead he signed a long term deal with the 49ers as part of the trade. That is how it works. No team will ever trade for a tagged player without working out a deal first but Dallas does not need him to sign the tag to go shopping him for picks. Yes, he will have to sign something as part of the trade or no one would trade for him but it doesn’t have to be the tender.

Roadtrip635 · Mar 28, 2019

2 back surgeries, suspended for violating the substance abuse policy and still needs surgery this year........... 23/140/85 sounds like a bargain.

Dre11 · Mar 28, 2019

ShortRound131 said:
True .. and this was a tweet from Tank's agent yesterday I posted in the other thread... should be interesting

Or he's lying. Because he posted that you don't have to believe him.

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