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cowboys2233;2191070 said:
And 6-6 for Brad Johnson would be six positive plays.
Try not to take a crap, I hear it tastes horrible.
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And 6-6 for Brad Johnson would be six positive plays.
Try not to take a crap, I hear it tastes horrible.
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:laugh2: It's good to see that our big guys play "BIGG".
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DragonCowboy;2191094 said:And 6-6 for Brad Johnson would be six positive plays.
Try not to take a crap, I hear it tastes horrible.
You mean the guy everyone wanted to cut on Sunday? :LOL
And the fact that you borrowed my logic (as opposed to coming up with your own for a change) only supports another point I wanted to make...
Each positive doesn't necessarily carry equal weight as each negative. For instance, Romo going 2-7 is a greater negative than Johnson going 6-6 because, you know, he's going to actually play during the season. :LOL
The point is, I'm trying to be objective. Homerism may make it seem like everything I say is negative, but since I said I was looking forward to watching the donkeys get a beatdown this weekend (now that's what I call a Cowboy positive!), that would indicate selective reading comprehension. From what I've read, I honestly believe that overall, the Broncos got the better of us this morning.
Sorry if that offends.
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Dang! I just don't know what to believe.
Mid-Day Report
Broncos, Cowboys Squaring Off In Dual Practice
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Josh Ellis - Email
DallasCowboys.com Staff Writer
August 13, 2008 12:35 PM Change Font Size A A A A
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The Cowboys and Broncos will practice against each other here all week, leading up to Saturday.
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OTHER RECENT NEWS
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• Bull Market 8/13
• Getting To Know: Erik Walden 8/13
• Training Camp Ends But Questions Still Remain 8/12
• Guys Know Special Teams Must Improve 8/12
• Austin Appears To Have Improved Greatly So Far 8/12
• Getting To Know: Daniel Polk 8/12
• Johnson Could Get More First-Team Work 8/11
• Cowboys Look For Consistency From Coverage Units 8/11
• Adam Jones Q & A; Corner Expects Better Play 8/11
• Jones Says Good Chance Of Oxnard Return 8/11
What's The Scoop:
The Dallas Cowboys and their traveling circus rolled into the Broncos' Dove Valley practice facility in Englewood, Colo. Wednesday morning for the first of four joint practices.
And when Cowboys running back Marion Barber was ridden to the ground by a gang Broncos defenders the first play of inside running drills, it was obvious this would be a different kind of workout. The teams dressed in shorts, shoulder pads and helmets, and there was a noticeable up-tick in the amount of hitting going on from the Cowboys' Oxnard, Calif. practices.
Two-a-day practice is slated for both Wednesday and Thursday, but Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said the heat could change that. Denver was a veritable oven this morning compared to Oxnard, the Colorado mercury reaching the low-80s.
The teams were apart during position drills, but came together for one-on-one work, inside running drills, 7-on-7 passing and 11-on-11 team drills. Barber was the recipient of the day's first hit, but others got in on the action. Denver linebacker Wesley Woodyard got a cheapy along the sidelines in on Cowboys running back Alonzo Coleman during team exercises, and rookie Cowboys corner Orlando Scandrick laid out Broncos receiver Eddie Royal about 10 minutes later.
Despite the excitement hitting new people, the main theme of the workout was competition.
"It's always good to work against different guys," Cowboys receiver Miles Austin said. "They don't know you, you don't know them. We'll work hard, watch the film of the practice we just had and hopefully come out here this afternoon and have a better one."
The day's second practice is set for 5:20 p.m. (CDT).
Quick Shots:
Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said he thought outside linebacker Anthony Spencer could return to practice this afternoon or tomorrow. He missed the last two practices in Oxnard with knee swelling, the result of bumping knees with someone during Saturday's game in San Diego.
Cowboys cornerback Quincy Butler practiced for the first time since pulling his hamstring July 27. The last two days he wore a jersey and helmet to field punts before workouts began, but resumed went back to working with trainers after the first whistle.
The Cowboys offense had some trouble during team drills, as Tony Romo wasn't clicking with his receiver and there were a few dropped balls. He did score one deep pass to Terrell Owens, though, beating Broncos cornerback Dominique Foxworth over the top. The Broncos were without their top cornerback, Champ Bailey.
Blame it on the Bluegrass. Some Cowboys receivers had trouble coming out of their brakes and their corners were slipping all over the place. Austin said the players would probably switch to different cleats this afternoon. Oxnard and Valley Ranch both have Bermuda grass, compared to the thicker Bluegrass here in suburban Denver.
The Broncos had a few familiar faces, including Ebenezer Ekuban, a former first-round pick of the Cowboys in 1999. Ekuban has been with the Broncos for the past three seasons and is coming off a torn Achilles he suffered last year in the preseason game against the Cowboys … The Broncos has also have punter Sam Paulescu, who was in the Cowboys' training camp last season, and tight end Brett Pierce, who spent two years in Dallas from 2004-05.
Rookie cornerback Mike Jenkins found a new way to win a battle in the one-on-one drill. Facing veteran Keary Colbert, Jenkins used the five-yard contact zone to his advantage and just threw Colbert to the ground, about two yards out of bounds as the pass just fluttered by. Drafted not only for his quickness, Jenkins showed some upper-body strength as well.
The one-one-one blocking drills were rather one-sided in the Cowboys' favor. Considering Denver uses a zone-blocking scheme, the undersized Broncos' line was no match for the likes of Chris Canty, Tank Johnson and Jay Ratliff. On the flip side, the Cowboys' offensive line pushed around the Broncos' smaller defenders in not only the individual blocking drills, but in team drills as well. You Should've Seen:
During the pre-stretch warm-ups before practice, the Cowboys and Broncos segregated themselves to adjacent fields. While the Cowboys went through their normal routine undeterred, most of the Broncos players were scoping out the Cowboys. The size difference between the teams could be one reason, as the Cowboys are bigger than Denver at just about every position.
Who's Hot:
Evan Oglesby. The Cowboys cornerback was an interception machine in Oxnard and carried the good work to Denver. He picked off one pass during 7-on-7 drills and broke up another. The last week or so he's been collecting at least one interception a day, and is distancing himself from some of the other young Cowboys cornerbacks.
Who's Not:
Adam "Pacman" Jones. To his credit, Jones isn't shy about who he's going to guard. He took on the Broncos' best receiver, Brandon Marshall most times this morning - problem was, Marshall got the better of him. Jones was generally a step behind, and secondary coach Dave Campo yelled at him more than once to finish the play. In Oxnard he made sure to defend Terrell Owens whenever he could.
Injury Update:
CB Terence Newman, groin - out three weeks (7/28)
LB Anthony Spencer, bone bruise - day-to-day (8/11)
DE Marcus Dixon, back - day-to-day (8/5)
Missed Practice:
CB Terence Newman (groin)
LB Anthony Spencer (bone bruise)
DE Marcus Dixon (back)
Returned to Practice:
CB Quincy Butler (hamstring)
Transactions:
WR Todd Lowber, signed (7/27)
WR Terry Glenn, waived (7/25)
QB Jeff Terrell, signed (7/25)
LB Khari Long, waived (7/24)
Wade's Best:
"I haven't walked through the doors yet. They don't let me inside. But it's great memories. We had great teams here. My first year here we went to the Super Bowl and that was pretty neat."- On walking through the Broncos locker room doors again. Phillips' first head coaching job was with the Broncos.
Says here we had it our way vs the Broncos in OL and DL drills.
Sheesh.....Here I thought we were gonna suck.
Mid-Day Report
Broncos, Cowboys Squaring Off In Dual Practice
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Josh Ellis - Email
DallasCowboys.com Staff Writer
August 13, 2008 12:35 PM Change Font Size A A A A
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Cowboys and Broncos will practice against each other here all week, leading up to Saturday.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OTHER RECENT NEWS
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
• Bull Market 8/13
• Getting To Know: Erik Walden 8/13
• Training Camp Ends But Questions Still Remain 8/12
• Guys Know Special Teams Must Improve 8/12
• Austin Appears To Have Improved Greatly So Far 8/12
• Getting To Know: Daniel Polk 8/12
• Johnson Could Get More First-Team Work 8/11
• Cowboys Look For Consistency From Coverage Units 8/11
• Adam Jones Q & A; Corner Expects Better Play 8/11
• Jones Says Good Chance Of Oxnard Return 8/11
What's The Scoop:
The Dallas Cowboys and their traveling circus rolled into the Broncos' Dove Valley practice facility in Englewood, Colo. Wednesday morning for the first of four joint practices.
And when Cowboys running back Marion Barber was ridden to the ground by a gang Broncos defenders the first play of inside running drills, it was obvious this would be a different kind of workout. The teams dressed in shorts, shoulder pads and helmets, and there was a noticeable up-tick in the amount of hitting going on from the Cowboys' Oxnard, Calif. practices.
Two-a-day practice is slated for both Wednesday and Thursday, but Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said the heat could change that. Denver was a veritable oven this morning compared to Oxnard, the Colorado mercury reaching the low-80s.
The teams were apart during position drills, but came together for one-on-one work, inside running drills, 7-on-7 passing and 11-on-11 team drills. Barber was the recipient of the day's first hit, but others got in on the action. Denver linebacker Wesley Woodyard got a cheapy along the sidelines in on Cowboys running back Alonzo Coleman during team exercises, and rookie Cowboys corner Orlando Scandrick laid out Broncos receiver Eddie Royal about 10 minutes later.
Despite the excitement hitting new people, the main theme of the workout was competition.
"It's always good to work against different guys," Cowboys receiver Miles Austin said. "They don't know you, you don't know them. We'll work hard, watch the film of the practice we just had and hopefully come out here this afternoon and have a better one."
The day's second practice is set for 5:20 p.m. (CDT).
Quick Shots:
Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said he thought outside linebacker Anthony Spencer could return to practice this afternoon or tomorrow. He missed the last two practices in Oxnard with knee swelling, the result of bumping knees with someone during Saturday's game in San Diego.
Cowboys cornerback Quincy Butler practiced for the first time since pulling his hamstring July 27. The last two days he wore a jersey and helmet to field punts before workouts began, but resumed went back to working with trainers after the first whistle.
The Cowboys offense had some trouble during team drills, as Tony Romo wasn't clicking with his receiver and there were a few dropped balls. He did score one deep pass to Terrell Owens, though, beating Broncos cornerback Dominique Foxworth over the top. The Broncos were without their top cornerback, Champ Bailey.
Blame it on the Bluegrass. Some Cowboys receivers had trouble coming out of their brakes and their corners were slipping all over the place. Austin said the players would probably switch to different cleats this afternoon. Oxnard and Valley Ranch both have Bermuda grass, compared to the thicker Bluegrass here in suburban Denver.
The Broncos had a few familiar faces, including Ebenezer Ekuban, a former first-round pick of the Cowboys in 1999. Ekuban has been with the Broncos for the past three seasons and is coming off a torn Achilles he suffered last year in the preseason game against the Cowboys … The Broncos has also have punter Sam Paulescu, who was in the Cowboys' training camp last season, and tight end Brett Pierce, who spent two years in Dallas from 2004-05.
Rookie cornerback Mike Jenkins found a new way to win a battle in the one-on-one drill. Facing veteran Keary Colbert, Jenkins used the five-yard contact zone to his advantage and just threw Colbert to the ground, about two yards out of bounds as the pass just fluttered by. Drafted not only for his quickness, Jenkins showed some upper-body strength as well.
The one-one-one blocking drills were rather one-sided in the Cowboys' favor. Considering Denver uses a zone-blocking scheme, the undersized Broncos' line was no match for the likes of Chris Canty, Tank Johnson and Jay Ratliff. On the flip side, the Cowboys' offensive line pushed around the Broncos' smaller defenders in not only the individual blocking drills, but in team drills as well. You Should've Seen:
During the pre-stretch warm-ups before practice, the Cowboys and Broncos segregated themselves to adjacent fields. While the Cowboys went through their normal routine undeterred, most of the Broncos players were scoping out the Cowboys. The size difference between the teams could be one reason, as the Cowboys are bigger than Denver at just about every position.
Who's Hot:
Evan Oglesby. The Cowboys cornerback was an interception machine in Oxnard and carried the good work to Denver. He picked off one pass during 7-on-7 drills and broke up another. The last week or so he's been collecting at least one interception a day, and is distancing himself from some of the other young Cowboys cornerbacks.
Who's Not:
Adam "Pacman" Jones. To his credit, Jones isn't shy about who he's going to guard. He took on the Broncos' best receiver, Brandon Marshall most times this morning - problem was, Marshall got the better of him. Jones was generally a step behind, and secondary coach Dave Campo yelled at him more than once to finish the play. In Oxnard he made sure to defend Terrell Owens whenever he could.
Injury Update:
CB Terence Newman, groin - out three weeks (7/28)
LB Anthony Spencer, bone bruise - day-to-day (8/11)
DE Marcus Dixon, back - day-to-day (8/5)
Missed Practice:
CB Terence Newman (groin)
LB Anthony Spencer (bone bruise)
DE Marcus Dixon (back)
Returned to Practice:
CB Quincy Butler (hamstring)
Transactions:
WR Todd Lowber, signed (7/27)
WR Terry Glenn, waived (7/25)
QB Jeff Terrell, signed (7/25)
LB Khari Long, waived (7/24)
Wade's Best:
"I haven't walked through the doors yet. They don't let me inside. But it's great memories. We had great teams here. My first year here we went to the Super Bowl and that was pretty neat."- On walking through the Broncos locker room doors again. Phillips' first head coaching job was with the Broncos.
Says here we had it our way vs the Broncos in OL and DL drills.
Sheesh.....Here I thought we were gonna suck.
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cowboys2233;2191070 said:
What's a good completion percentage -- 60 or 65 percent? Going 5-for-7 would be 71.4 percent. So that's only three plays away from being great. Add three negative plays to that list, and the positives still have a clear advantage.
How much of practice was 9-on-7? And how much of an advantage did the Broncos have? We don't know either one. But you'd think that at least SOME of those plays would have been cited in the review, given how many single plays were cited. Where are all of the plays when the Broncos had the advantage?
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cowboys2233;2191115 said:
You're not even trying to be objective, don't try pulling that with me.
Are you honestly worried about Romo's performance? Seriously? IMO, Johnson's performance in this PRESEASON is more important as we can see what we have in a backup QB. We KNOW what we have in Romo.
The reason I paralleled your point is because I assumed that would be enough for your mind to comprehend. Guess not.
You can't COUNT up all the different positives and negatives in your second-hand view and say who had the better practice. Even if Denver's had a better practice, do you honestly think that means doom and gloom. We certainly didn't get our "cupcakes" knocked out of us (and don't even try spinning that into some non-venomous phrase).
Yeah, you're objective all right,
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Amendola fumbled agin?
This is the guy who was gonna take somebody's place on the roster?
This is the guy who was gonna take somebody's place on the roster?