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A Giant turning point

4:31 PM Wed, Feb 06, 2008 | Permalink
Albert Breer


Remember how we heard how those losses in December were irrelevant?
Well, the Giants didn't think so. In fact, if you listen to those guys, they think the Cowboys late-season swoon emboldened the rest of an NFC that Dallas tore to shreds from September to January.


"We knew we were good team," tailback Brandon Jacobs said. "It kind of started for us when Philadelphia went down and beat Dallas. When they went and beat Dallas, that let us know we were a good football team because we beat Philly twice.


"That kind of opened the door for us, that this team could be beat, they’re not the perfect team. We just started playing better from there."

But the biggest factor remains making your own team better, and that was another thing players at the Super Bowl spoke extensively on.


"You have to continually get better or teams are going to catch up to you and you’re going to give them a chance to beat you in the playoffs," Patriots All-Pro Mike Vrabel said. "You can’t just turn the switch and say, ‘Well, it’s the playoffs, I’m going to play better. Here I am.’ I don’t believe that. It’s a process, where you try to improve your game, improve your technique, improve your conditioning and continue to get better."


Seems like the first part of that statement is, in fact, exactly what happened with the Cowboys down the stretch. Even with wins, the home team was struggling.


And eventually, the mask that ringing up a victory gave the Cowboys came off, revealing a team that simply wasn't what it had been. Now, contrast that to the approach of other teams ...


"You may have won but that’s not where we want to be right now. There were games where we had that," Vrabel continued. "On that walk over to that famous post-game handshake of his, (Bill Belichick is) already thinking what we did wrong and what we can improve on. Everything, it’s the next game and getting better and moving ahead."


Funny thing is, the Patriots -- uncharacteristically -- seemed like another team that was being gained on by its competition, even as it kept on winning.


The moral of the story, nearly a month after the season ended: Every day counts. And if you're not getting better ... Well, since other teams are, you're actually getting worse.
I'm sure there's a lesson here the Cowboys can take with them.
 

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Some good truth in this article...

Listen up Cowboys! You can win the battles, but not win the war!

:cool:
 

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Dallas needs that head strong attitude of going out and destroying teams.

Peddle to the metal.

Get up by 21 or so pts and then work the clock.
 

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"The moral of the story, nearly a month after the season ended: Every day counts. And if you're not getting better ... Well, since other teams are, you're actually getting worse.
I'm sure there's a lesson here the Cowboys can take with them."

I'd like to think that JJ has been working extensively, along with Wade, to improve the coaching staff.

We'll see what happens over the next few weeks leading up to FA.
 

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Cbz40;1945763 said:
A Giant turning point

4:31 PM Wed, Feb 06, 2008 | Permalink
Albert Breer

Funny thing is, the Patriots -- uncharacteristically -- seemed like another team that was being gained on by its competition, even as it kept on winning.


The moral of the story, nearly a month after the season ended: Every day counts. And if you're not getting better ... Well, since other teams are, you're actually getting worse.
I'm sure there's a lesson here the Cowboys can take with them.

This is exactly thread I started here a few days back. There are definite parallels to the Cowboys & Patriots seasons.

When the Cowboys got knocked out some claimed we didn't have enough tough guy or winning character attitude and that the roster would have to be changed as a result.

My point was that swoons can happen to the best of em and up pops the team formerly referred to as "the greatest of all time" as Exhibit A.

A title they would be proudly wearing today had Eli not improbably escaped a certain sack and completed a desperation, up for grabs, throw to Tyree who pinned it against his helmet. I don't mean to discredit the Giants but I do mean to illustrate that it takes some good fortune at times to go all the way. Fortune, good and bad, sometimes disguises itself as "heart of a warrior" or "character challenged". Its not always accurate!

Does this Cowboy team need to get better, players & coaches? Absolutely! Does it need exorcising of its bad character(s) that caused this 2007 swoon? Don't over-react.

In the choice between "major changes" versus "staying the course" I am quite certain that Jerry will make the right choice and stay the course.
 

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Rampage;1945775 said:
if we make the playoffs next year i hope we go on the road.

I have some very good road memories of this club, most notably in San Fran in the 92 season championship game, the Hail Mary, and the LA Coliseum. Those were all great fun!
 

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CoCo;1945788 said:
This is exactly thread I started here a few days back. There are definite parallels to the Cowboys & Patriots seasons.

When the Cowboys got knocked out some claimed we didn't have enough tough guy or winning character attitude and that the roster would have to be changed as a result.

My point was that swoons can happen to the best of em and up pops the team formerly referred to as "the greatest of all time" as Exhibit A.

A title they would be proudly wearing today had Eli not improbably escaped a certain sack and completed a desperation, up for grabs, throw to Tyree who pinned it against his helmet. I don't mean to discredit the Giants but I do mean to illustrate that it takes some good fortune at times to go all the way. Fortune, good and bad, sometimes disguises itself as "heart of a warrior" or "character challenged". Its not always accurate!

Does this Cowboy team need to get better, players & coaches? Absolutely! Does it need exorcising of its bad character(s) that caused this 2007 swoon? Don't over-react.

In the choice between "major changes" versus "staying the course" I am quite certain that Jerry will make the right choice and stay the course.


Very well thought out post! ;)
 

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Maybe a veteran team that has won it all before can relax and turn it on- MAYBE. There is no way a young team that has not won much of anything can do that. Next year Wade and company need to drill it into the players that the season is not 16 games long- it is 19. And you have to put the peddle to the metal for all 19. As a young team you cannot afford to throttle down because there is not much chance you can throttle up again.
 

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CoCo;1945788 said:
This is exactly thread I started here a few days back. There are definite parallels to the Cowboys & Patriots seasons.

When the Cowboys got knocked out some claimed we didn't have enough tough guy or winning character attitude and that the roster would have to be changed as a result.

My point was that swoons can happen to the best of em and up pops the team formerly referred to as "the greatest of all time" as Exhibit A.

A title they would be proudly wearing today had Eli not improbably escaped a certain sack and completed a desperation, up for grabs, throw to Tyree who pinned it against his helmet. I don't mean to discredit the Giants but I do mean to illustrate that it takes some good fortune at times to go all the way. Fortune, good and bad, sometimes disguises itself as "heart of a warrior" or "character challenged". Its not always accurate!

Does this Cowboy team need to get better, players & coaches? Absolutely! Does it need exorcising of its bad character(s) that caused this 2007 swoon? Don't over-react.

In the choice between "major changes" versus "staying the course" I am quite certain that Jerry will make the right choice and stay the course.

"Stay the course?" I sure hope we change the course in the playoffs. We have stayed the course four times now. We need a change in December and the playoffs.
 

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I wonder how many will continue to make excuses and pretend all is well next year if Dallas starts their annual December slide.

I do not know what aggravated me more Dallas going on their annual December slide or the folks who made every excuse in the world and pretended Dallas was doing just fine.
 

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Breer is a fine writer, but he's overthinking this.

If Crayton catches a few more balls, the Cowboys beat the Giants for a third time. It is that simple.
 

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Cbz40;1945763 said:
A Giant turning point

4:31 PM Wed, Feb 06, 2008 | Permalink
Albert Breer


Remember how we heard how those losses in December were irrelevant?
Well, the Giants didn't think so. In fact, if you listen to those guys, they think the Cowboys late-season swoon emboldened the rest of an NFC that Dallas tore to shreds from September to January.


"We knew we were good team," tailback Brandon Jacobs said. "It kind of started for us when Philadelphia went down and beat Dallas. When they went and beat Dallas, that let us know we were a good football team because we beat Philly twice.


"That kind of opened the door for us, that this team could be beat, they’re not the perfect team. We just started playing better from there."

But the biggest factor remains making your own team better, and that was another thing players at the Super Bowl spoke extensively on.


"You have to continually get better or teams are going to catch up to you and you’re going to give them a chance to beat you in the playoffs," Patriots All-Pro Mike Vrabel said. "You can’t just turn the switch and say, ‘Well, it’s the playoffs, I’m going to play better. Here I am.’ I don’t believe that. It’s a process, where you try to improve your game, improve your technique, improve your conditioning and continue to get better."


Seems like the first part of that statement is, in fact, exactly what happened with the Cowboys down the stretch. Even with wins, the home team was struggling.


And eventually, the mask that ringing up a victory gave the Cowboys came off, revealing a team that simply wasn't what it had been. Now, contrast that to the approach of other teams ...


"You may have won but that’s not where we want to be right now. There were games where we had that," Vrabel continued. "On that walk over to that famous post-game handshake of his, (Bill Belichick is) already thinking what we did wrong and what we can improve on. Everything, it’s the next game and getting better and moving ahead."


Funny thing is, the Patriots -- uncharacteristically -- seemed like another team that was being gained on by its competition, even as it kept on winning.


The moral of the story, nearly a month after the season ended: Every day counts. And if you're not getting better ... Well, since other teams are, you're actually getting worse.
I'm sure there's a lesson here the Cowboys can take with them.

We need to sticky this thread so we can point it out to all the homers next season if we fall apart in december again.
 

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gbrittain;1945981 said:
I wonder how many will continue to make excuses and pretend all is well next year if Dallas starts their annual December slide.

I do not know what aggravated me more Dallas going on their annual December slide or the folks who made every excuse in the world and pretended Dallas was doing just fine.

Fair enough.

Specific recommendations (ie names of players and/or coaches) to fix the problem please?
 

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Rack;1946029 said:
We need to sticky this thread so we can point it out to all the homers next season if we fall apart in december again.

While I admittedly I have a stay the course bent to my thinking I am not at all opposed to measured change. My list is not too controversial but here it is.
  1. Re-sign Barber, let Julius walk & replace him with both a rookie and lower level vet FA.
  2. Re-sign Hamlin & seek additional quality safety help that would allow moving Roy Williams out. I'm tired of waiting on Roy and he is the single most player on this team that I think has a negative impact on our collective psyche. I am very skeptical that getting Campo to work with him or changing uniform numbers is going to do the trick.
  3. Flozell. Hmmm. Tough one there. If we have to pay franchise equivalent $ or close to it we may need to risk taking a step back and let him walk. I hate that but I think it'd be a mistake to pay max $ here. Huge risk however given we haven't seen what McQ or Free can do. Huge risk.
  4. #2 WR. Another tough one. Obviously can't stand pat. TO, Crayton, Hurd, Austin, Stanback is not enough. Glenn cannot be counted on. I love the idea of an available Roy Williams for a 2nd + whatever it takes to close the deal. I'd like a draftee but realistically only to push Hurd or Austin out. I'm not optimistic about a draftee making a significant contribution in 2008.
  5. Re-sign Canty. Obviously. Nuff said.
  6. Bring back a healthy Fergie.
  7. Spears, Carp, Ayodele sure they can be moved out for replacements with more upside. I'm not insisting, but I'm certainly open.
  8. Coaching. I'm fine with last years holdovers, replacements to date, and the prospects of adding a Capers & Hunley. While Wade wasn't and isn't perfect I believe his defensive expertise is more of the solution than any shortcomings being part of the problem.
  9. Upgrade at CB through the draft. Absolutely! Can't stand pat with Reeves, gotta have some b/u options for an injury prone Henry.
  10. You ALWAYS look for possible upgrades. ALWAYS! Maybe Kosier can be upgraded through draft or FA. I'm wide open. I think our day 1 picks will be spent on CB, S, RB, WR &/or OL but we can't force any of them
  11. I'm not in favor of serious cap stress. We will not be able to have it all. Patient and measured.
The above list, to me, is a stay the course list. I don't know what more drastic measures people would want. In large part because people typically aren't specific with their change recommendations, just LOUD.

So tell me how your list differs.
 

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So we beat the Giants 2x during the season.
The Giants beat Philly 2x during the season.

Philly beat us in our 2nd game.... and THAT was what it took for the Giants to think they could beat us? Bradumb Jacobs

:rolleyes:
 

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CoCo;1946040 said:
Fair enough.

Specific recommendations (ie names of players and/or coaches) to fix the problem please?


I have no specific recommendations. Sure we need upgrades in some areas. We have to get younger in some. However, we were talented enough as we were last year to have a good December and go onto beat the Giants. We did not.
 

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I find it hard to blame a team for resting starters that are hurt/injured when you have HFA locked up. Not to mention that the G-Men had the same record in December as Dallas did....2-2.





YAKUZA
 

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CoCo;1946040 said:
Fair enough.

Specific recommendations (ie names of players and/or coaches) to fix the problem please?

Physically there is nothign wrong with the team. We have enough physical talent on the team to win it all numerous times.


The problem is attitude and leadership.


Romo needs to keep the "happy go lucky" attitude, but also add some "In your face" attitude for when players are screwing up.

We need someone like Michael Irvin and Charles Haley on the team (personality).
 
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