DMN: Blog: Breer: Scout.com projects Cowboys-Dolphins trade!!!

In that mock we could have had Mike Jenkins at #22 and then James Hardy at #28.
I would love that first round!:)
Their first round::bang2:
 
The move down is too cheap when Mike Jenkins is there. I don't even want Felix Jones in the first let alone Charles. Both those guys are second rounders at best imo.
 
lurkercowboy;1989263 said:
A second and third for a first? Come on....


On the value chart, I think that is actually pretty close if it was #28. That 2nd rounder is #32...what would usually be a first. And the third rounder is the top of 3.

Now taking Jamaal Charles in 1....that'd be a poor decision.
 
junk;1989421 said:
On the value chart, I think that is actually pretty close if it was #28. That 2nd rounder is #32...what would usually be a first. And the third rounder is the top of 3.

Now taking Jamaal Charles in 1....that'd be a poor decision.

Drafting Charles in the first round would be a terrible decision.

I can't see Dallas trading a 1st round pick and not getting a 1st or 2nd round pick for next year thrown into the deal.
 
Yeagermeister;1989252 said:
No thanks......trade #28 if we are going trade one of them

Right! It is very doubtful that Cromartie or McKelvin will be there at # 22 but if they are you have to take the one that is available because he won't be there at # 28. Then if BP's guy is still available at # 28 trade with him then.
 
This is a pretty terrible trade they devised.

There is no motivation for miami to move up to grab brohm, definitely not up to 22.
 
I'd actually strongly consider that with Miami.

But I wouldn't make that selection with #28.

Actually, if the deal was right and the valued players were off the board for us at the positions we were looking for at #22 and #28..

I'd trade down with both our #1's and do trades similar to this.

If there is as much deep talent after the 1st rd. as many are saying, I'd definitely think we could pick up as many as 5 more picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds for our two #1's to go along with our own picks in those rounds.

That would let us rule the deep rounds and pluck alot of talent at affordable prices.

We don't need starters, what we need is quality depth that could be starters in the next year or two. and to take some snaps in the meantime.

I'd trade them both and grin as long as our scouts really had rds. 2-4 dialed in and we had picks at the tops of those rounds to play with plus our own.

:starspin RedBall ExPreSS:starspin
 
Yeagermeister;1989282 said:
Just like Buffalo and Cleveland did after we traded with them? :bang2:

Buffalo did suck and nobody, I mean nobody saw Derek Anderson playing as well as he did.

I would do the same thing this year again. Trade #28 for somebody who could stink next year for their 2009 first. Dallas needs quality right now, not quantity.
 
Actually I read somewhere else that Miami wanted our 22nd pick if Lb Dan Connors was still on the board. In return they'd give us both their 2nd rounders. Frankly such a trade only makes sense if Cowboys don't see anyone they interested in being available -- doubt that would happen unless all the good CBs are long gone, etc. If Cromartie or Jenkins still undrafted when we on the board with our 22nd pick, you better believe we should draft Cromartie there.
 
This is Our Year;1989262 said:
That trade wouldn't be that bad IMO.
I guess me and you are the only ones that feel this way. As deep as I have been hearing this draft is, I've been wanting to find a way to load up on 2nd round picks, obviously the higher the better.

The Dolphins 2nd pick is the 32nd pick this year because of New England losing its pick. In essence, its still a first round pick. Their 3rd round pick is in essence the last pick in the 2nd round for the same reason.

Ending up with the 28th, 32nd, 56th & 64th pick doesn't seem too bad to me assuming we can evaluate talent. Lots of picks to work with gives us lots of options.

I do wish we could do this on draft day so we could see how things were sliding before we pulled the trigger, but the P-Fins may not go for that
 
**** THAT! If Miami wants 22 they'll pay what the Browns did last year or keep walkin'.
 
skinsscalper;1989640 said:
**** THAT! If Miami wants 22 they'll pay what the Browns did last year or keep walkin'.

I'm with you. Jerry has done Parcells enough favors, no more screwing around.
 
sago1;1989638 said:
Actually I read somewhere else that Miami wanted our 22nd pick if Lb Dan Connors was still on the board. In return they'd give us both their 2nd rounders.

I would do that so fast, Big Bill's head would spin.

(Unless DRC were still on the board.)
 
I'd welcome a trade down from #22, but I'd expect a similar deal as last year. If Miami wants the #22 pick trade us the top pick in rd 2 and their first next year. But I'd only do this trade if the following guys are off the board (as well as obvious guy I won't bother listing like Dmac or Chris Long).

-Rashard Medenhall
-Jonathan Stewart
-Dominique Rogers Cromartie
-Mike Jenkins
-Aquib Talib
-James Hardy (no way he lasts this long imo, but didn't want to create confusion cause many think he'll last)

But imo it's more likely a team tries to trade up to 28 for Joe Flacco. Who ever doesn't get a QB in rd 1 (Miami, Atlanta, Kansas City, Baltimore, Chicago, Carolina and Minnesota are all posibilities). It's unreasonable to expect a 2nd and a 1rst from a team picking in the early in rd 2, but if it's a team out of the top 10, I'd get the deal I expected at 22.
 
I like what these two said, combine them and thats where I'm at.

Manwiththeplan;1989660 said:
I'd welcome a trade down from #22, but I'd expect a similar deal as last year. If Miami wants the #22 pick trade us the top pick in rd 2 and their first next year. But I'd only do this trade if the following guys are off the board (as well as obvious guy I won't bother listing like Dmac or Chris Long).

-Rashard Medenhall
-Jonathan Stewart
-Dominique Rogers Cromartie
-Mike Jenkins
-Aquib Talib
-James Hardy (no way he lasts this long imo, but didn't want to create confusion cause many think he'll last)

But imo it's more likely a team tries to trade up to 28 for Joe Flacco. Who ever doesn't get a QB in rd 1 (Miami, Atlanta, Kansas City, Baltimore, Chicago, Carolina and Minnesota are all posibilities). It's unreasonable to expect a 2nd and a 1rst from a team picking in the early in rd 2, but if it's a team out of the top 10, I'd get the deal I expected at 22.

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I'd actually strongly consider that with Miami.

But I wouldn't make that selection with #28.

Actually, if the deal was right and the valued players were off the board for us at the positions we were looking for at #22 and #28..

I'd trade down with both our #1's and do trades similar to this.

If there is as much deep talent after the 1st rd. as many are saying, I'd definitely think we could pick up as many as 5 more picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds for our two #1's to go along with our own picks in those rounds.

That would let us rule the deep rounds and pluck alot of talent at affordable prices.

We don't need starters, what we need is quality depth that could be starters in the next year or two. and to take some snaps in the meantime.

I'd trade them both and grin as long as our scouts really had rds. 2-4 dialed in and we had picks at the tops of those rounds to play with plus our own.

:starspin RedBall ExPreSS:starspin
 
Ya right. Not trading away one of our picks and then using the other one on a RB. Won't happen. Maybe if they had said we were drafting a WR or a CB, but we're not going to pass on those two areas of need and settle for a guy at a position where we already have our eyes on a greater prize.
 
Yea.. I think that there is precedent that shows a first rnd pick can only be had for another first rnd pick the following year, both Dallas and NE have done this.

However I would be willing to give them 22 for both seconds and 6th this year and their second next year

#28 can be had for just both seconds and 4th next year

I like piling up future picks wherever possible.
 
I'd wrather have 3 2nd's this year than the extra 1st round pick. The only person i could see us targetting with such a high pick would be Michael Crabtree. However since theres no promise he will enter the draft next year i say we 2 the two seconds and pick up quality players that would also be helpfull.
 
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