DMN: BLOG: Breer: Yes, there's that too...

[Cbz40]

Yes, there's that too ...

4:04 PM Sun, Mar 02, 2008 | Permalink
Albert Breer


I guess it's a mistake to ever underestimate D-Mac Desire around here.
Several people hit the comments section of Cowboys Blog to mention that Michael Turner's arrival in Atlanta means the Falcons are likely out of the running for a tailback in the draft. (Although, if Marion Barber's a better player, as I contended, wouldn't that put the Cowboys in the same boat?)
Anyway, yes, it would seem then that D-Mac could easily slither through the Top 3 picks and that would put the Raiders on the clock with the Arkansas phenom still on the board. The Raiders, yes, could be amicable to a trade.


Still, the trusty draft value chart says that it'd probably take more than just 22 and 28 to get it done. The Cowboys' two first-round picks add up to 1,440 points. The fourth pick is worth 1,800 points, whicch means the Raiders could reasonably ask for the second-round pick (61st overall). And if you go by the letter, if you add that to the total, it still comes to just 1,732.


So let's go by that, if some of you are so in love with D-Mac -- would you deal two firsts and a second for D-Mac? I wouldn't even think about doing that. And indications we've gotten are that Jerry wouldn't either (I know he cites picks 1, 2, and 3, but come on ... read the whole thing and a trade-up sounds pretty unlikely).

 

[CATCH17]

I just switched up my Signature and Avatar today on 2 different boards useing Marion Barber and it took me forever how to figure it out on the other board so if we get rid of him im going to be super pissed for that reason alone.

 

[speedkilz88]

The Falcons are in rebuilding mode and getting two high priced rbs doesn't make any sense for them when they could grab another position of need like qb, de, ot. Falcons also have another very good rb on the team in Jerrious Norwood.

 

[ajk23az]

I just switched up my Signature and Avatar today on 2 different boards useing Marion Barber and it took me forever how to figure it out on the other board so if we get rid of him im going to be super pissed for that reason alone.

At least you know how to do it quickly now! :

 

[big dog cowboy]

would you deal two firsts and a second for D-Mac?

Heck no. Not even a consideration.

 

[Jay]

Now here's my question..

Remember the ESPN BS report about how it would have to be for two 1st rounders and Marion Barber? Essentially, that's like saying Marion Barber is only worth a 2nd rounder, if you go by the chart. If you want to go after Barber as is, it's a 1st and a 3rd. I think if we only put the 1st round tender (2nd level) on him he would have already gotten some offers.

Not saying something like this is going to get done, so don't attack me... but I think if we do trade for McFadden, no way in hell is Barber part of that deal.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Now here's my question..

Remember the ESPN BS report about how it would have to be for two 1st rounders and Marion Barber? Essentially, that's like saying Marion Barber is only worth a 2nd rounder, if you go by the chart. If you want to go after Barber as is, it's a 1st and a 3rd. I think if we only put the 1st round tender (2nd level) on him he would have already gotten some offers.

Not saying something like this is going to get done, so don't attack me... but I think if we do trade for McFadden, no way in hell is Barber part of that deal.

Considering the overwhelming fan support for Barber and the negative press Jerry was getting for even thinking about trading him, I am 100% certain that Barber is going nowhere.

That is why a trade for #1 was not feasible. Now, if DMac starts falling to 4, 5, 6, .......then I think you have to consider moving up and grabing him to team with Barber.

Maybe that is why Jerry has been clearing cap space, not for Moss but McFadden. Maybe

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

i would give up 22 and 28 in a heartbeat. Anything more than that and no friggin way.

 

[Rampage]

i would give up #22 or #28,next years 1st and a player(akin maybe) but i wouldn't want to give up all our 1st day picks. al davis has offocially lost his mind though giving all these average players huge contracts so it might not even take that much.

 

[speedkilz88]

i would give up #22 or #28,next years 1st and a player(akin maybe) but i wouldn't want to give up all our 1st day picks. al davis has offocially lost his mind though giving all these average players huge contracts so it might not even take that much.

I like McFadden but three #1s, thats too steep.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I like McFadden but three #1s, thats too steep.

I agree. We dont really need to do any deals unless thy are favorable to us. id rather sit pat unless a deal gives us an obvious advantage over the stus quo.

Three firsts doesnt do that for me.

Two firsts does.

 

[IronCowboy]

Brandon Jacobs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Darren McFadden

 

[Nors]

Nooooooooooo

 

[Rampage]

I like McFadden but three #1s, thats too steep.

no i meant a player, next years #1 and one of our #1s this year. thats why i said #22 OR #28. so it's still 2 #1 draft picks and a player maybe. but than we can still have a high 1st round draft pick this year.

 

[STSINAZ]

all we need is warrick dunn when he is cut, then pick the best receiver and corner in the 1st round...case closed...all positions of need are addressed! build up the rest of the team from there...

 

[DallasKnight]

No trading up for any player right now. We need CB's, WR's, AND a RB. We can have all of those in the 1st 2 rnds. Why trade up for just ONE?!? I don't care how good he is.

 

[speedkilz88]

no i meant a player, next years #1 and one of our #1s this year. thats why i said #22 OR #28. so it's still 2 #1 draft picks and a player maybe. but than we can still have a high 1st round draft pick this year.

Fair enough, I mis-read it.

 

[ENGCowboy]

I dont like giving up future firsts because you never know what position you might be in desperate need of a starter for next year.

 

[vlad]

I would not give up those picks. This isn't basketball, one player at a position where we already have a pro-bowler is not going to help us when Nate Jones is getting torched by Steve Smith, or S. Moss, or freaking Hank Baskett.

Stick where you are, hope you can land a CB, a young WR, or if you are uncertain and two value picks are there I'm fine with drafting 2 CBs. We have a bunch of windows in the house, but the first one is closing with TO getting older.

Ideally imho we find a way to pry Roy Williams away from Det with the later pick, and draft a CB with the first pick, they pick up Ray Rice in round 2.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

GET-R-DONE......this would be a WOW player