DMN: Blog: Cowboys talking to Kyle Boller

[dallasfaniac]

Do you honestly believe as competitive Romo is, he would be ok with being outgunned in practice even if he was guaranteed to start? I don't.

Do you think Owens would be happy if a DB shut him down during practice even though there would be no threat to replace him? I don't.

These are football players that compete for a living and I just don't think there has been any sort of competition for Romo since Bledsoe left, as bad as he was.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Same here. Yea, he has his faults, but at least he has taken a team to the Super Bowl. Remember, we're looking for a backup, not a starter, and I think Grossman is the best available.

Exactly. People seem to forget "Good Rex" and only remember "Bad Rex".

In the Bears Super Bowl run, Grossman passed for 3200 yards, 23 TD's and 20 INT's. He had a QB rating of over 100 seven times in 15 games, passed for 250 yards or more six times, and passed for two or more TD's seven times. There is "Good Rex" And I'd take my chances on Good Rex for a few games if Romo goes down again.

In comparison, in Bollers career year in 2004, he passed for 2559 yards, 13 TD and 11 INT. His season high was 232 yards, and threw more interceptions than touchdowns in seven of 16 games.

Neither team had much on the offensive side of the ball, and Grossmen took his team to a Super Bowl and at times showed flashes if some decent talent. I'll take that in a backup quarterback anyday.

 

[Alexander]

Exactly. People seem to forget "Good Rex" and only remember "Bad Rex".

In the Bears Super Bowl run, Grossman passed for 3200 yards, 23 TD's and 20 INT's. He had a QB rating of over 100 seven times in 15 games, passed for 250 yards or more six times, and passed for two or more TD's seven times. There is "Good Rex" And I'd take my chances on Good Rex for a few games if Romo goes down again.

In comparison, in Bollers career year in 2004, he passed for 2559 yards, 13 TD and 11 INT. His season high was 232 yards, and threw more interceptions than touchdowns in seven of 16 games.

Neither team had much on the offensive side of the ball, and Grossmen took his team to a Super Bowl and at times showed flashes if some decent talent. I'll take that in a backup quarterback anyday.

The tradeoff is not that significant. Grossman is very much like Romo, reckless and will force the football, sometimes blindly into deep coverage. He also is very streaky. Boller on the other hand is a bit more judicious, not by much, but he does not have the gunslinger personality.

 

[TLCC]

Both Grossman & Boller suck!!!! ... as starters and we a looking at them as cheap (1-2 Million) backup options. If you don't like Boller or Grosman tell us who ya got.

My reason for Boller over Grossman is he has been pretty consistent, his completion % has increased every year and he can handle coming in off the bench. The year Grossman "took" the Bears to the SuperBowl. His QB rating was 74 that was his career high. Whereas, Boller's last 4 QB ratings are 71, 72, 104, 75. This year when Grossman was a backup his Completion % was 51.6 (even as a starter he only completes 54% of his passes) and his QB rating was 59.7. That is horrible. I'd expect more bad Rex coming off the bench then good Rex. If I had my choice I would take Boller.

Regarding drafting a QB. I don't think anyone posting has said that the Cowboys shouldn't draft a QB; whether it's Cantwell, Reilly, Holbrook, Boltus, Bomar, or whoever. This year we do not have the option of investing a high pick (2nd or 3rd) into drafting our backup QB for THIS SEASON. Henne was a backup last year yes, but they invested a 2nd round pick. So should we draft Freeman this year to be our backup? I think most people would say no.

Either way you got it if Romo goes down for an extended period of time. The Cowboys are screwed.

 

[Alexander]

Either way you got it if Romo goes down for an extended period of time. The Cowboys are screwed.

Yes but the idea is to be less "screwed" than we were last year. In either case of Grossman or Boller, we would be.

 

[Fletch]

Boller isn't the total hack some paint him to be. He's just under .500 as a starter. We can't get much better in this day and age.

Sounds like Charlie Batch while with the Lions before the Steelers picked him up to be a more than capable backup. Batch does what every team wishes there backup would do. Go out and help win games when your starter is down. Something the Cowboys haven't had in a while.

 

[Cochese]

Neither team had much on the offensive side of the ball, and Grossmen took his team to a Super Bowl and at times showed flashes if some decent talent. I'll take that in a backup quarterback anyday.

NO, THE DEFENSE DID. They got to the Superbowl in SPITE of Grossmans best efforts to sabotage them.

 

[dbair1967]

NO, THE DEFENSE DID. They got to the Superbowl in SPITE of Grossmans best efforts to sabotage them.

Grossman was the model of inconsistency in Chicago, but as somebody else posted he did put up pretty big numbers in about half their games, and he did that with far less talent around him than what we'd have here.

The other positive with him is I am pretty sure Ron Turner was his OC in Chicago, and there will be some similarities in scheme to what Garrett does.

No matter who we sign, if they have to throw 30-35-40 times we are screwed. If however the running game is solid and the defense is good, either Grossman, Boller, Batch and maybe even Simms would all do fine.

 

[Cochese]

Grossman was the model of inconsistency in Chicago, but as somebody else posted he did put up pretty big numbers in about half their games, and he did that with far less talent around him than what we'd have here.

The other positive with him is I am pretty sure Ron Turner was his OC in Chicago, and there will be some similarities in scheme to what Garrett does.

No matter who we sign, if they have to throw 30-35-40 times we are screwed. If however the running game is solid and the defense is good, either Grossman, Boller, Batch and maybe even Simms would all do fine.

No, Grossman was consistently crappy, with the exception of possibly 6 games in 2006. Ive seen pretty much every game this guy has played, and he is an absolute clown. Completely passionless, with body language worse than Romo and TO combined. There are times where I wonder if he can even see over his offensive line. He is listed at 6'1", but that has to be in cleats with 3/4 inch lifts.

I am surrounded by Bears fans, and this guy has been the absolute scourge of their existence for the past 5 years, I dont want any part of it.

 

[dbair1967]

No, Grossman was consistently crappy, with the exception of possibly 6 games in 2006. Ive seen pretty much every game this guy has played, and he is an absolute clown. Completely passionless, with body language worse than Romo and TO combined. There are times where I wonder if he can even see over his offensive line. He is listed at 6'1", but that has to be in cleats with 3/4 inch lifts.

I am surrounded by Bears fans, and this guy has been the absolute scourge of their existence for the past 5 years, I dont want any part of it.

Well again barring major injury to Romo, he wouldnt be playing that much.

I think he'd have almost assuredly given us a better chance in those 3 games Romo missed this yr than Brad Johnson did, and maybe would have played ok enough for Romo to rest that injury another week or two.

 

[BourbonBalz]

The tradeoff is not that significant. Grossman is very much like Romo, reckless and will force the football, sometimes blindly into deep coverage. He also is very streaky. Boller on the other hand is a bit more judicious, not by much, but he does not have the gunslinger personality.

Exactly. Grossman IS more like Romo. As a result, if he had to fill in for a few games, we wouldn't have to change the offense as much as we would with another backup. Just makes sense.

 

[BourbonBalz]

NO, THE DEFENSE DID. They got to the Superbowl in SPITE of Grossmans best efforts to sabotage them.

Who was the QB on that team????????? Everyone knows the D was the best part of that Bears team, but who QBed the team to the Super Bowl?????? I thought so.

 

[tunahelper]

I'd much rather have Rex Grossman.

I agree. At least Grossman can produce yardage and points at times to go with his TO's. Boller has a habit of TO's and low points with low yardage of offense.

A wasted signing from I have seen of the guy. He seems to be a scared pitcher now and hesistates to wing it because he thinks he will get picked and low behold he is right more than he is wrong.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Who was the QB on that team????????? Everyone knows the D was the best part of that Bears team, but who QBed the team to the Super Bowl?????? I thought so.

Jim McMahon. What did I win?

 

[MWILL]

Who was the QB on that team????????? Everyone knows the D was the best part of that Bears team, but who QBed the team to the Super Bowl?????? I thought so.

You need to watch the Bears vs Colts SB game again.

To even mention Rex's name on this board is a joke.

 

[AbeBeta]

You need to watch the Bears vs Colts SB game again.

To even mention Rex's name on this board is a joke.

To based your evaluation of a BACKUP QB candidate on a singel game is more of a joke.

 

[MWILL]

To based your evaluation of a BACKUP QB candidate on a singel game is more of a joke.

Your "evaluation" of my comment is a joke.

I was responding to a statement about Rex "takin" Chicago to a SB. Rex has been crap for years and he can't be trusted even as a backup QB.