DMN Blog: Cowboys want to run the "Razorback"

[AsthmaField]

at least he would give the D something to think about, if we ever get into blowout games, I'd put McGee in, have him throw some, and run alot, get his confidence up

not only does he get experience, but so do the other players

I agree - but it wouldn't have to be blowout games. That's what I'm saying.

Give him maybe 6 or 7 plays to get down perfectly and put him in the Razorback in a game. If we are going to run the offense (Razorback), then we are going to have somebody like McGee, Crayton, Stanback, etc. taking the snap... I'd rather it be McGee than anyone else. He has a better arm and would be much more of a threat to throw out of that formation.

If it is Crayton or Stanback, the defense won't worry about a passing option nearly as much as they would with McGee. He can run very well and could hurt a defense with his legs... but he definately could hurt them just a much with his arm.

It would be a very difficult thing for a team to defend against.

 

[Doomsday101]

i dont understand this crap at all. why put romo in the wr position when everyone knows he wont catch a ball. worse is that a cb will try to knock him down within 5 yards and try to injure him. at least take romo out and put a real wr in that slot. stupid formation

Who to say Romo could not go into motion on the play and have the ball pitched to him for a pass? The main reason you would keep him in is so that you do not tip your hand on the play

 

[Wayfaring Stranger]

I am glad they are trying to be creative.

But I just cannot help but remember what Troy said about gadget plays.

He said teams use that on offense when they do not think they can beat the other guy .... that is why they never needed any.

I agree with that.

There is a time and a place for trick plays, they should only be run at the right time, not as a base offense. You also have to make the best use of the personnel you have, also Troy didn't have the type of players to run the wildcat type of offense, didn't need them.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I agree - but it wouldn't have to be blowout games. That's what I'm saying.

Give him maybe 6 or 7 plays to get down perfectly and put him in the Razorback in a game. If we are going to run the offense (Razorback), then we are going to have somebody like McGee, Crayton, Stanback, etc. taking the snap... I'd rather it be McGee than anyone else. He has a better arm and would be much more of a threat to throw out of that formation.

If it is Crayton or Stanback, the defense won't worry about a passing option nearly as much as they would with McGee. He can run very well and could hurt a defense with his legs... but he definately could hurt them just a much with his arm.

It would be a very difficult thing for a team to defend against.

 

[AsthmaField]

So then in games that count if we are running a Wildcat formation, who do you think should be playing QB?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So then in games that count if we are running a Wildcat formation, who do you think should be playing QB?

who do you think should be playing QB?

 

[AsthmaField]

who do you think should be playing QB?

I've already said that if we're running the WC formation, that I'd like to see them have McGee run it for the reasons I listed.

You seemed to disagree, so I'm wondering who you'd rather see us using.

To me, I wouldn't use the formation very much... but when we do I'd like to see McGee.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I've already said that if we're running the WC formation, that I'd like to see them have McGee run it for the reasons I listed.

You seemed to disagree, so I'm wondering who you'd rather see us using.

To me, I wouldn't use the formation very much... but when we do I'd like to see McGee.

Stephen McGee?

 

[dcfanatic]

I've already said that if we're running the WC formation, that I'd like to see them have McGee run it for the reasons I listed.

You seemed to disagree, so I'm wondering who you'd rather see us using.

To me, I wouldn't use the formation very much... but when we do I'd like to see McGee.

McGee has already said he won't be running any Wildcat stuff for the Cowboys.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

If you watch the PC from today, it's pretty clear that Wade doesn't think much of the Wildcat/Razorback.

I don't think we'd run it very much based on what he said today.

 

[AsthmaField]

McGee has already said he won't be running any Wildcat stuff for the Cowboys.

I know... it's what I would like to see though.

 

[Big Dakota]

If you watch the PC from today, it's pretty clear that Wade doesn't think much of the Wildcat/Razorback.

I don't think we'd run it very much based on what he said today.

Ya, he's the HC, but somewhow i don't see Wade having much to say about what gets called on O.

 

[28 Joker]

Feed Felix the Rock!

Get it done!

There are indeed many ways to feed Felix the rock.

I am so loving Jerry Jones' comments today about Felix Jones' touches going significantly up and about Felix Jones being a "major touch factor in the offense".

 

[WoodysGirl]

Jun 4, 2009 4:31 PM
"The Razorback" Unveiled
Posted by CBS11
Bill Jones

About the time Jerry Jones called the assembled media away from the sidelines to conduct an impromptu filibuster Q&A session during today's OTA workout, back out on the practice field the Cowboys unveiled their version of the "Wildcat" formation.

As Jerry began his press conference, droning on and on about the makeup of the secondary, I spotted Tony Romo split out to the left side as a wide receiver as the first team offense came to the line of scrimmage. At that point, I decided that what was happening on the field was far more interesting than what I was hearing from Jerry. So, I ventured back to the sideline to see what Jason Garrett was up to.

After watching a couple of reps of what the Cowboys are calling the "Razorback" formation, I'm here to report that Romo was splitting wide left, Roy Williams was in the slot, Marc Colombo was lining up outside left tackle Flozell Adams in an unbalanced line with Jason Witten an eligible receiver next to Leonard Davis on the right side. Patrick Crayton took the direct snap from center where he either faked or handed off to Felix Jones in motion right to left across the backfield. The one pass I witnessed from Crayton, a former QB at NW Oklahoma State, came on a rollout to the right side. The pass sailed harmlessly out of bounds.


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This apparently was the first time the Cowboys have worked on the Razorback formation, so obviously it's in its very formative stages. Frankly, I'd rather see the Cowboys play a RB at the QB position in this offense. It would seem to threaten an NFL defense far more if Tashard Choice took the snap and either handed off to a streaking Felix Jones running behind behemoths Colombo and Adams, or Choice can run to the short side in what essentially is an NFL version of the college zone read play. I just find it hard to believe that Patrick Crayton, Isaiah Stanback, or any Cowboys WR or RB represent any sort of passing threat in this formation.

 

[OAM]

Not true... he scares me....

The only thing Patrick Crayton scares is a trade partner.

 

[staubach]

Maybe we need to bring in a new player to run it...an available free agent. Let's see what criteria we'd need filled:

Someone who can run the ball.
An accurate passer.
Someone with experience running the read-option.
And someone comfortable running a play called the "Razorback".

Throw in "someone with experience cutting up cocaine in his backseat" and I know the PERFECT guy.

You got it right bigdave, this who i would like see running it also.....sign him jerry.....

 

[Hoofbite]

Renaming the Wildcat the "Razorback" doesn't make the formation any less stupid.

Teams that use this formation use it because they don't have a legitimate QB.

Its horse crap. How bout enough with the gimmicks and side shows front this team. Get out there and just run the ball.

How stupid it is that a team with this much offensive talent is even considering using this formation.

What a waste of time this formation is.

 

[Hoofbite]

After watching a couple of reps of what the Cowboys are calling the "Razorback" formation, I'm here to report that Romo was splitting wide left, Roy Williams was in the slot, Marc Colombo was lining up outside left tackle Flozell Adams in an unbalanced line with Jason Witten an eligible receiver next to Leonard Davis on the right side. Patrick Crayton took the direct snap from center where he either faked or handed off to Felix Jones in motion right to left across the backfield. The one pass I witnessed from Crayton, a former QB at NW Oklahoma State, came on a rollout to the right side. The pass sailed harmlessly out of bounds.


This apparently was the first time the Cowboys have worked on the Razorback formation, so obviously it's in its very formative stages. Frankly, I'd rather see the Cowboys play a RB at the QB position in this offense. It would seem to threaten an NFL defense far more if Tashard Choice took the snap and either handed off to a streaking Felix Jones running behind behemoths Colombo and Adams, or Choice can run to the short side in what essentially is an NFL version of the college zone read play. I just find it hard to believe that Patrick Crayton, Isaiah Stanback, or any Cowboys WR or RB represent any sort of passing threat in this formation.

Jesus. This formation is going to suck worse than the typical wildcat.

Crayton poses no threat to run the ball.

I guess I fail to see where this is anything even remotely progressive. Basically Crayton and Romo are switching spots. Crayton is only moderately faster than Romo and sure as hell can't throw as well. Romo is no threat to actually run a route which means he is just going to stand there and wait for a backwards pass so he can throw.

Essentially Dallas will reduce its capacity to throw and catch all so they can slightly improve the running ability of the person receiving the snap. Good God what a joke.

I cannot wait to see this debacle unfold during the regular season.

 

[Clove]

Maybe we need to bring in a new player to run it...an available free agent. Let's see what criteria we'd need filled:

Someone who can run the ball.
An accurate passer.
Someone with experience running the read-option.
And someone comfortable running a play called the "Razorback".

Throw in "someone with experience cutting up cocaine in his backseat" and I know the PERFECT guy.

Sounds like Vick to me. Punt Returner/4th receiver/wildcat QB.