DMN Blog: Football Outsiders: Terrell Owens has been terrible

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FuzzyLumpkins;2433293 said:
He has been having issues getting off the line all year. You pay $8 mil a season to be able to get off the ball and beat double teams. He used to do just that as he was one of the most physical players in the league. Unfortunately he no longer does.

Even when TO is beating the bump off the line of scrimmage there is a safety sitting over the top. That either makes the QB go somewhere else with the ball or he has to try to force it in a small area. I have also seen linebackers dropping back into the passing lanes essentially meaning TO is sometimes triple teamed.

I think TO is doing fine. If teams are going to focus so much attention on him then it is up to the rest of the team to take advantage of one on one match ups and less guys in the box against the run. That has been inconsistent. Part of that is on the O-line and part of that was due to the back up QBs not being up to par.

I wouldn't worry about TO at all. The game as always will come down to the performance of the offensive line and the QB as it always does.
 

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AmericasTeam31;2433396 said:
From my seat at the Washington game T.O. was running alone over the middle of the field on at least 3-4 occasions but didn't get the ball.... The play where he did get it and got to the one or two yard line... That route was open EVERY time he ran it!!! But only hooked up on it once... He still has it, he still gets seperation, he just doesn't always get the ball....

Thanks for the insight. This is something missed by those who seek to prove points exclusively with stats.
Though I rarely watch ESPN, I occasionally see bits of one their shows where they break down game film. That is a heckuva lot more valuable than pure stats.
 

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Sounds like a TO hater to me. I don't know how anyone can come to the conclusion that TO is terrible with Bollinger and Brad Johnson at quarterback. He failed to mention that before Romo got hurt Witten was 3rd in the LEAGUE in receiving yards. Now he's 12 or 13. Its all about the qb. TO hasn't been great but I wouldn't put the blame all on him.
 

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BraveHeartFan;2433054 said:
LOL! He's just lucky, not skilled, when he scrambles about and makes a third down play.

Great observation by this group.

What part of We can't figure him out because "I really think it's because he's such a rare player and his skillset is so unique" (direct quote) doesn't compute?

He acknowledges that in Romo's case, 3rd down performance may not be luck at all.

I'm actually curious as to why this team performs so much better on 3rd down than on 1st and 2nd down. This is the reason why penalties have been prevalent for years with this team, but we've been able to overcome them: we convert so many third-and-longs compared to other teams, it's ridiculous. And it's been true ever since Romo's been QB (which Barnwell also aknowleges by the way).

The best explanation I can come up with is that Romo's tendency to want to force plays actually works in his favor here. Knowing that it's complete the pass or punt, he's more free to just let rip and take his chances.
 

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I think that is clouding some peoples judgement on him is the fact that watching it on TV you can't see what he's doing most of the time. THe people live get a much better look at what he's able to do.
 

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49ers-Cowboys Statistical Preview: The Fading Dallas Star
Friday, November 21, 2008

Niners Nation

As I talked about in my comments during the all-time #2 WR voting, I'm seriously conflicted when it comes to T.O.'s 8 seasons in a 49ers uniform. On one hand, there's the consistent elite performance and The Catch II. Those are fond memories. On the other hand, there's the insubordination against Mooch, the slandering of Jeff Garcia, the isolation from his teammates, the untimely dropped passes, and the constant drama surrounding his endzone celebrations. Those are not fond memories.

The one event that coalesced all of T.O.'s negatives was his total lack of class at Texas Stadium on December 8, 2002. It's unbelievably ironic that, nearly 6 years to the day of that stunt, T.O. will be playing the 49ers in that stadium, wearing the uniform of the team he so disrespected. And what an irony it would be if, in this week's game, the 49ers played a role in the continued demise of T.O. as an elite wide receiver. The question for Niner fans this week is, "Which T.O. is going to show up?" Will it be the T.O. that made the Niners secondary look like a junior varsity unit 3 years ago? Or will it be the T.O. that has failed to show up in game after game this season, with or without Tony Romo. That is the question I'll address in this week's statistical preview.

HAS THE SHARPIE RUN OUT OF INK?

Although some of you might not like them (what's up methodrampage?), those of you that have been reading my previews and reviews already know about DYAR and EYds by now, so I'm not going to re-explain them in depth here. All I'll remind you of is that DYAR tells you a player's overall value, while the discrepancy between EYds and actual yards tells you a player's value per play. Below is a graph showing the trajectory of T.O.'s DYAR per game over the course of his career. I've made the "per game" adjustment to account for differences in the number of games he's played each season.



After the jump, I'll quantify just how bad a season T.O. is having, tell you what kind of numbers I expect from him this week, identify two crucial game situations to watch for during the Cowboys game, and make my game prediction...


As the graph shows, 2008 is the first season of T.O.'s career that he actually has a negative DYAR (-6.8), making this his worst season from a value standpoint. His previous worst DYAR/G was 5.9 in 1999, and his rookie-year DYAR/G was 6.7. So basically, the 2008 version of T.O. is 13.5 yards less valuable per game to the Cowboys than he was to the 49ers in his rookie season, when some guy named Jerry Rice was the Hall of Famer in waiting. What's especially interesting, though, is that T.O.'s collapse in value is totally unexpected. Not only does it go against the fact that he's never had a negative DYAR before; it comes only one season removed from the best DYAR/G season of his career. An argument might be made that his substandard DYAR/G this season is due to Tony Romo's injury or any of the other injuries surrounding T.O. in the Cowboys' offense. Honestly, though, does anything T.O.'s going through right now compare to having the two-headed monster of J.J. Stokes and Tai Streets lining up on the other side of the formation?

Now let's look at the difference between T.O.'s EYds and his actual receiving yards over the course of his career. Positive numbers mean he was better than the league average given the game situations he caught passes in, while negative numbers mean he was worse than the league average in those game situations.



Again, we see that the 2008 season has been totally out of character for T.O. Unlike most seasons, in which he's played better than the league average on a situational basis, he's gaining 8.6 yards per game this season less than an average wide receiver would gain in the same game situations. Not only is this his worst season in terms of situational value, it's almost 8 times worse than his rookie season!!! Also notice that, like his DYAR/G collapse, his situational efficiency collapse comes immediately after one of the best seasons of his career. Just last season, T.O. performed 13.3 yards per game better than average on a situational basis.

Clearly, whether you look at DYAR or EYds, you find the same thing. This is easily T.O.'s worst season in the NFL. Both overall and on a situational basis, he's currently a worse wide receiver than he was in his rookie season. That's pretty hard to fathom being that the intervening 11 seasons have been so consistently good. What does this mean for answering the question, "Which T.O. is going to show up?" Well, given his DYAR and EYds for this season, we should not expect T.O. to put up the 143-yard, 2 TD performance that he did last time he played the 49ers. Factoring in the 49ers' 16th-ranked pass defense DVOA, I figure we should expect a 2008-type performance from T.O. this week; something like 4 catches for 50 yards and a touchdown.

49ERS-COWBOYS DVOA MATCHUP

Here's how the 49ers stack up against the Cowboys in terms of DVOA:

Team
Total DVOA
Rank
Offense
Rank
Defense
Rank
Special Teams
Rank

SF
-11.8%
25
-14.3%
28
4.5%
15
7.1%
1

DAL
-5.4%
22
5.9%
16
4.9%
16
-6.4%
30



All in all, this is actually a pretty even matchup for the 49ers. They're not playing the really bad Rams; nor are they playing the really good Giants. The 6.4% overall disadvantage they have against the Cowboys is almost identical to the 6.6% disadvantage they had going into their 30-21 loss to the Patriots. With respect to the three team units, the top-ranked 49ers special teams has a huge 13.5% advantage over the Cowboys' special teams, which offsets the Cowboys' 10.4% advantage when the 49ers defense is on the field. Finally, although the 49ers offense performs about 12% worse than league average, at least they're going against a defense that also performs below average.

THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS

Aside from the special teams matchup I just identified, the two other SVW's to focus on during this week's 49ers-Cowboys matchup are detailed below:

Situation
SF Rank
DAL Rank

SF DEFENSE VS. DAL OFFENSE ON 2ND AND LONG
8
29

SF DEFENSE VS. DAL OFFENSE ON 2ND AND SHORT
28
5



The conclusion here is pretty straightforward. The 49ers need to stop the Cowboys on 1st down by whatever means necessary. If they succeed, they end up with a huge advantage on 2nd down. If they don't succeed, they end up with a huge disadvantage. Simple as that.

"WITH HIGH HOPE FOR THE FUTURE, NO PREDICTION IS VENTURED." - ABRAHAM LINCOLN

Before I give my prediction, I'd just like to say that my 28-13 prediction last week was pretty close, but it would have been even closer if I had actually trusted the stats, which predicted 35-13. I discounted a TD because I just didn't think the 49ers offense could score 35 points with Shaun Hill at QB. Not because I thought he's bad, but because I thought the grind-it-out kind of game that Martz would call with Hill limited the quick-strike scoring that's usually necessary for putting up 35 points. Guess I failed to account for Bulger gift-wrapping short fields. Anyway, given the statistical matchup between the 49ers and the Cowboys, here's my prediction for this week's game:

San Francisco 49ers
21


Dallas Cowboys
27





**DVOA, DYAR, and EYds statistics used to produce this article were obtained from Football Outsiders.
 

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good post Theebs. I still will never forgive him for disrespecting this team.
 

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MrMom;2433181 said:
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Turrible!

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theebs;2434093 said:
from the sf paper

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49ers-Cowboys Statistical Preview: The Fading Dallas Star
Friday, November 21, 2008

Niners Nation

As I talked about in my comments during the all-time #2 WR voting, I'm seriously conflicted when it comes to T.O.'s 8 seasons in a 49ers uniform. On one hand, there's the consistent elite performance and The Catch II. Those are fond memories. On the other hand, there's the insubordination against Mooch, the slandering of Jeff Garcia, the isolation from his teammates, the untimely dropped passes, and the constant drama surrounding his endzone celebrations. Those are not fond memories.

The one event that coalesced all of T.O.'s negatives was his total lack of class at Texas Stadium on December 8, 2002. It's unbelievably ironic that, nearly 6 years to the day of that stunt, T.O. will be playing the 49ers in that stadium, wearing the uniform of the team he so disrespected. And what an irony it would be if, in this week's game, the 49ers played a role in the continued demise of T.O. as an elite wide receiver. The question for Niner fans this week is, "Which T.O. is going to show up?" Will it be the T.O. that made the Niners secondary look like a junior varsity unit 3 years ago? Or will it be the T.O. that has failed to show up in game after game this season, with or without Tony Romo. That is the question I'll address in this week's statistical preview.

HAS THE SHARPIE RUN OUT OF INK?

Although some of you might not like them (what's up methodrampage?), those of you that have been reading my previews and reviews already know about DYAR and EYds by now, so I'm not going to re-explain them in depth here. All I'll remind you of is that DYAR tells you a player's overall value, while the discrepancy between EYds and actual yards tells you a player's value per play. Below is a graph showing the trajectory of T.O.'s DYAR per game over the course of his career. I've made the "per game" adjustment to account for differences in the number of games he's played each season.



After the jump, I'll quantify just how bad a season T.O. is having, tell you what kind of numbers I expect from him this week, identify two crucial game situations to watch for during the Cowboys game, and make my game prediction...


As the graph shows, 2008 is the first season of T.O.'s career that he actually has a negative DYAR (-6.8), making this his worst season from a value standpoint. His previous worst DYAR/G was 5.9 in 1999, and his rookie-year DYAR/G was 6.7. So basically, the 2008 version of T.O. is 13.5 yards less valuable per game to the Cowboys than he was to the 49ers in his rookie season, when some guy named Jerry Rice was the Hall of Famer in waiting. What's especially interesting, though, is that T.O.'s collapse in value is totally unexpected. Not only does it go against the fact that he's never had a negative DYAR before; it comes only one season removed from the best DYAR/G season of his career. An argument might be made that his substandard DYAR/G this season is due to Tony Romo's injury or any of the other injuries surrounding T.O. in the Cowboys' offense. Honestly, though, does anything T.O.'s going through right now compare to having the two-headed monster of J.J. Stokes and Tai Streets lining up on the other side of the formation?

Now let's look at the difference between T.O.'s EYds and his actual receiving yards over the course of his career. Positive numbers mean he was better than the league average given the game situations he caught passes in, while negative numbers mean he was worse than the league average in those game situations.



Again, we see that the 2008 season has been totally out of character for T.O. Unlike most seasons, in which he's played better than the league average on a situational basis, he's gaining 8.6 yards per game this season less than an average wide receiver would gain in the same game situations. Not only is this his worst season in terms of situational value, it's almost 8 times worse than his rookie season!!! Also notice that, like his DYAR/G collapse, his situational efficiency collapse comes immediately after one of the best seasons of his career. Just last season, T.O. performed 13.3 yards per game better than average on a situational basis.

Clearly, whether you look at DYAR or EYds, you find the same thing. This is easily T.O.'s worst season in the NFL. Both overall and on a situational basis, he's currently a worse wide receiver than he was in his rookie season. That's pretty hard to fathom being that the intervening 11 seasons have been so consistently good. What does this mean for answering the question, "Which T.O. is going to show up?" Well, given his DYAR and EYds for this season, we should not expect T.O. to put up the 143-yard, 2 TD performance that he did last time he played the 49ers. Factoring in the 49ers' 16th-ranked pass defense DVOA, I figure we should expect a 2008-type performance from T.O. this week; something like 4 catches for 50 yards and a touchdown.

49ERS-COWBOYS DVOA MATCHUP

Here's how the 49ers stack up against the Cowboys in terms of DVOA:

Team
Total DVOA
Rank
Offense
Rank
Defense
Rank
Special Teams
Rank

SF
-11.8%
25
-14.3%
28
4.5%
15
7.1%
1

DAL
-5.4%
22
5.9%
16
4.9%
16
-6.4%
30



All in all, this is actually a pretty even matchup for the 49ers. They're not playing the really bad Rams; nor are they playing the really good Giants. The 6.4% overall disadvantage they have against the Cowboys is almost identical to the 6.6% disadvantage they had going into their 30-21 loss to the Patriots. With respect to the three team units, the top-ranked 49ers special teams has a huge 13.5% advantage over the Cowboys' special teams, which offsets the Cowboys' 10.4% advantage when the 49ers defense is on the field. Finally, although the 49ers offense performs about 12% worse than league average, at least they're going against a defense that also performs below average.

THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS

Aside from the special teams matchup I just identified, the two other SVW's to focus on during this week's 49ers-Cowboys matchup are detailed below:

Situation
SF Rank
DAL Rank

SF DEFENSE VS. DAL OFFENSE ON 2ND AND LONG
8
29

SF DEFENSE VS. DAL OFFENSE ON 2ND AND SHORT
28
5



The conclusion here is pretty straightforward. The 49ers need to stop the Cowboys on 1st down by whatever means necessary. If they succeed, they end up with a huge advantage on 2nd down. If they don't succeed, they end up with a huge disadvantage. Simple as that.

"WITH HIGH HOPE FOR THE FUTURE, NO PREDICTION IS VENTURED." - ABRAHAM LINCOLN

Before I give my prediction, I'd just like to say that my 28-13 prediction last week was pretty close, but it would have been even closer if I had actually trusted the stats, which predicted 35-13. I discounted a TD because I just didn't think the 49ers offense could score 35 points with Shaun Hill at QB. Not because I thought he's bad, but because I thought the grind-it-out kind of game that Martz would call with Hill limited the quick-strike scoring that's usually necessary for putting up 35 points. Guess I failed to account for Bulger gift-wrapping short fields. Anyway, given the statistical matchup between the 49ers and the Cowboys, here's my prediction for this week's game:

San Francisco 49ers
21


Dallas Cowboys
27





**DVOA, DYAR, and EYds statistics used to produce this article were obtained from Football Outsiders.

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Isolated himself from teammates? Pretty much everyone in the 49er locker room liked Terrell Owens. He still has numerous friends from his days in SF.

49er fans are such drama queens, too. Like they should give a damn about him celebrating on the star...or other unconventional TD celebrations.

And the "slandering" of Jeff ".237 DUI" Garthia. Yeah, poor him...the two-time DUI sleaze weasel.
 
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