DMN Blog: Here's Troy Aikman on the ill-fated Romo to Hurd incompletion

[skinsscalper]

I would loved to had RW on the play but he was injured. As for Barber I highly doubt Dallas was thinking run and had they ran and been stopped short there is no doubt the same people would be hollering about running instead of throwing in this situation. As for what irks fans? losing the game irks fans but in the end the playcalled on that situation was not incorrect no matter how much fans whine about it because the fact is any play that fails to work comes under fire.

In short, if the play failed, it was incorrect. It means that you failed to create the mismatches required (either by scheme or personel) to achieve success.

BTW Barber is a pretty decent pass catcher out of the backfield and the lead draws and screens have been moderately successful this year. With that being said, Barber on the sidelines is a joke. There's not a player on this team that is better at sniffing and breaking the goal line, or pass blocking than Barber. Him in blocking and Witten out on a route makes a hell of a lot more sense.To have him on the bench when we are two yards away is a joke. You couldn't possibly come up with a rationalization that convinces me otherwise.

 

[khiladi]

In short, if the play failed, it was incorrect. It means that you failed to create the mismatches required (either by scheme or personel) to achieve success.

Exactly... It's like people saying Garrett's play-calling isn't owrking, because the team fails to execute. Failure to execute can be a result of many things, including predictability, poor design, the defense knowing what is coming and defending it well and so on.

 

[Doomsday101]

Exactly... It's like people saying Garrett's play-calling isn't owrking, because the team fails to execute. Failure to execute can be a result of many things, including predictability, poor design, the defense knowing what is coming and defending it well and so on.

And it could also be because the player flat out did not execute, there are plays for the taking that this team is not making them. It is up to Garrett to find out why and change it but for the 1st 3 games this offense has not had issues moving the ball or putting up points.

 

[Doomsday101]

In short, if the play failed, it was incorrect. It means that you failed to create the mismatches required (either by scheme or personel) to achieve success.

BTW Barber is a pretty decent pass catcher out of the backfield and the lead draws and screens have been moderately successful this year. With that being said, Barber on the sidelines is a joke. There's not a player on this team that is better at sniffing and breaking the goal line, or pass blocking than Barber. Him in blocking and Witten out on a route makes a hell of a lot more sense.To have him on the bench when we are two yards away is a joke. You couldn't possibly come up with a rationalization that convinces me otherwise.

Oh I see if the play does not work that is what makes it a bad call. At least now I know you don't have a fricken clue while before I was only guessing you didn't. :laugh2:

 

[rcaldw]

I repeat. Has anyone bothered to look at the replay of the 1st throw to Hurd? If it is in the right place it is a TD. Nothing wrong with the play call, poor throw.

2nd one? If he was told to go back to Hurd, stupid. But doesn't that play have 3 options? Who makes that choice?

 

[dbair1967]

Exactly... It's like people saying Garrett's play-calling isn't owrking, because the team fails to execute. Failure to execute can be a result of many things, including predictability, poor design, the defense knowing what is coming and defending it well and so on.

and of course that all would be moot had the QB looked to his left to see the wide open guy

 

[dbair1967]

I repeat. Has anyone bothered to look at the replay of the 1st throw to Hurd? If it is in the right place it is a TD. Nothing wrong with the play call, poor throw.

2nd one? If he was told to go back to Hurd, stupid. But doesn't that play have 3 options? Who makes that choice?

It doesnt do any good to present facts to boneheads

 

[Doomsday101]

I repeat. Has anyone bothered to look at the replay of the 1st throw to Hurd? If it is in the right place it is a TD. Nothing wrong with the play call, poor throw.

2nd one? If he was told to go back to Hurd, stupid. But doesn't that play have 3 options? Who makes that choice?

Normally around the goal line you don't have many 2nd and 3rd options as the defense does not have to cover much of an area and your not going to get much time to sit back there and go through all reads. Most of the reads on the goal line are pre-snap reads because you need to get the ball out fairly quick

 

[Hoofbite]

10:39 AM Wed, Oct 07, 2009 | Permalink
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I talked to Troy Aikman this morning about a myriad of topics that will help me fill this blog for the rest of the week as well as my Hot Air column for Saturday.

In the course of the conversation, we talked about the infamous unsuccessful pass to Hurd, defended by Champ Bailey, that ended the Cowboys hopes of winning in Denver

I can't quote Aikman directly here because he used all kinds of football jargon I pretended to understand. I jotted everything down but now I can't decipher most of the "code" words.

Anyway, Aikman said when the Cowboys got to the line of scrimmage, he did what he always does. Aikman looked at the defense and thought about the play he would call against it.

Guess what? Aikman liked the call.

He said he saw the CB (Champ Bailey) playing off the ball and thought the perfect call would be a slant to the wide receiver on the "short side" of the field. Yes, Miles Austin was on other side of the field (the long side) but that is the more difficult pass.

"I said to myself if they call a slant they have a walk-in touchdown," Aikman said. He didn't elaborate but I'm hypothesizing that would make the execution and not Bailey the reason the play was less than perfect.


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Yeah, Bailey had nothing to do with it at all.

 

[rcaldw]

Normally around the goal line you don't have many 2nd and 3rd options as the defense does not have to cover much of an area and your not going to get much time to sit back there and go through all reads. Most of the reads on the goal line are pre-snap reads because you need to get the ball out fairly quick

Ok. Who made the pre-snap read? Since Austin was open the first time, and knowing the nature of receivers I doubt he was silent about that, why wasn't he looked at the 2nd time? Who made that choice?

I'll tell you what else you don't usually get around the goal line in these situations. Another opportunity to cash in on a throw you missed the first time.

 

[rcaldw]

It doesnt do any good to present facts to boneheads

Sometimes it is literally like little kids. What I don't want to have to acknowledge I just act like I didn't hear, or act like it didn't happen.

Everyone wants to keep talking about play call, play call, play call.

Go back and look at the first throw, I challenge anyone to do it, if the ball is below his shoulder pads it is a TD. Play call works, Dallas ties the game. Instead, it sailed over his head.

 

[Doomsday101]

Ok. Who made the pre-snap read? Since Austin was open the first time, and knowing the nature of receivers I doubt he was silent about that, why wasn't he looked at the 2nd time? Who made that choice?

I'll tell you what else you don't usually get around the goal line in this situations. Another opportunity to cash in on a throw you missed the first time.

QB comes up to the line and makes the read, Garrett can't do that for Romo as the headset is turned off at that point so that leaves Romo to see where the defenders are. You say Austin was open yet I saw 2 WR to that side and 2 defender right there with them, on the other side 1 WR and 1 CB. I think Romo went with what most others would have gone at.

 

[dbair1967]

Sometimes it is literally like little kids. What I don't want to have to acknowledge I just act like I didn't hear, or act like it didn't happen.

Everyone wants to keep talking about play call, play call, play call.

Go back and look at the first throw, I challenge anyone to do it, if the ball is below his shoulder pads it is a TD. Play call works, Dallas ties the game. Instead, it sailed over his head.

which according to some of the genius crowd here, is the fault of the coordinator

 

[dbair1967]

QB comes up to the line and makes the read, Garrett can't do that for Romo as the headset is turned off at that point so that leaves Romo to see where the defenders are. You say Austin was open yet I saw 2 WR to that side and 2 defender right there with them, on the other side 1 WR and 1 CB. I think Romo went with what most others would have gone at.

but would most other fan bases then turn around and blame the coordinator for that?

 

[rcaldw]

which according to some of the genius crowd here, is the fault of the coordinator

Right now, for some people, EVERYTHING is the Coordinator.

I've seen Romo, and before that, Aikman, make plenty of throws that unless it was in that perfect spot wouldn't have been the play that it turned out to be. Aikman's rocket TD throw to Irvin, right front corner of the Endzone, 1995 NFC Championship game, 2 defenders, 1 on each side of the play, perfect throw, TD.

PLAY CALLS REQUIRE PRECISE EXECUTION SOMETIMES.

The Hurd throw (1st one) just had to be where it had to be and it was a score. It wasn't. That isn't play call.

 

[rcaldw]

QB comes up to the line and makes the read, Garrett can't do that for Romo as the headset is turned off at that point so that leaves Romo to see where the defenders are. You say Austin was open yet I saw 2 WR to that side and 2 defender right there with them, on the other side 1 WR and 1 CB. I think Romo went with what most others would have gone at.

Yea, but they were in man coverage weren't they? If so, then when the routes began to play out (2 slants on the left side), all the receivers to the left have to do is beat the DB just like the guy on the right? No?

 

[craig71]

Ok. Who made the pre-snap read? Since Austin was open the first time, and knowing the nature of receivers I doubt he was silent about that, why wasn't he looked at the 2nd time? Who made that choice?

I'll tell you what else you don't usually get around the goal line in these situations. Another opportunity to cash in on a throw you missed the first time.

That's what I can't figure out,Austin was open the first time.It seems that would validate calling the same play back to back,except that you target Austin on the second attempt.Something else I thought about,in the game against Carolina the previous week.Romo threw a ball to Crayton on a slant,the pass ended up being incomplete.The thing about the play that sticks out is that the ball was threw way early,Crayton didn't have a chance at it.So either it's an issue with timing with his receivers or he's locking onto a receiver no matter what.

Craig

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

It is not a coincidence that Troy saw what Tony saw and would call the same play.

If you look at thinks closely you will realize that Troy and Tony share three of the same letters in their first names.

It is really quite alarming how things work out in the world.

 

[johnson2]

jaws also broke the play down sunday night and said romo made the right reads/decisions and good throws on both plays but its up to the reciever to either get seperation or better body position to make the play

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I wonder if the reasoning for running basically the same play back to back had to do with Austin being open on the far side.It would seem that they had to see him open over there on the previous play.

Craig

I don't know. It's possible but if that is the case, it would seem odd that he wouldn't look for Austin on the next throw. He was open.