DMN Blog: Jerry Jones talks playcalling, team's chances, GM

[DavidS]

It sure wasn't Jerry's doing, that's for sure.

Yeah, that's why Jerry Jones has Three Superbowl Championships on his fingers and were sitting here typing a bunch of BS on a stupid forum with NONE.

Jerry Jones and his football decisions >>>>>>>>> Us (because we dont know crap when it boils down)

 

[swj010]

You are confusing Jerry the owner with Jerry the GM maybe.

If you are pretty sure he could change it tomorrow no matter the cost, don't you think he would consider passing the GM duties on to Stephen Jones or bring in a GM?

Just something to consider.

Jerry has been distancing himself from the player/coaching decisions that a GM makes and is focusing on the stadium management/financial side this year. He is clearly deferring to Stephen with respect to the on field issues. He will always be the face of the franchise but it is clear with the cutting of TO that the on field aspects of the team are being moved to Stephen.

 

[KingintheNorth]

Yeah, that's why Jerry Jones has Three Superbowl Championships on his fingers and were sitting here typing a bunch of BS on a stupid forum with NONE.

Jerry Jones and his football decisions >>>>>>>>> Us (because we dont know crap when it boils down)

mmm, mmm good.

 

[STSINAZ]

You guys are ridiculous...jerry the owner...one of the best in the business..jerry the gm..one of the worst..thats all you need to know...get cowher and get out of the way jerry, best chance of winning

 

[wileedog]

In 1973 a man bought one of the premiere sport franchises in the world. They won Championships in 1977 and 1978 and this man began to believe he was solely responsible for this team's success. His meddling became ridiculous. Media outlets reported that he was interfering with the coach during the games, suggesting who should and shouldn't play. He ignored his coaching staff and advisors and made moves he felt the team needed.

Sound familiar?

This team went on a 12-year playoff drought and this owner and his ego were the laughing stock of the league. In 1996 he finally hired a qualified coach and in 1998 he hired a qualified GM. Something many writers and fans thought would never happen with this big-egoed Owner running the show. Since then, this team has won 4 Championships and are pretty much a contender every year. They are once again one of the top franchises in all of sports.

If George Steinbrenner can put his ego aside and hire qualified people why can't Jerry?

Technically he got suspended from baseball for several years and had to hire Stick Michaels to run the team. Michaels went out and drafted guys like Jeter, Bernie, Posada, etc and for a change George wasn't around to trade them away for washed up pitchers. By the time George was reinstated the team was playoff caliber again.

Think we could take up a collection to bribe Godell to suspend Jerry a couple of years?

 

[Bach]

Yeah, that's why Jerry Jones has Three Superbowl Championships on his fingers and were sitting here typing a bunch of BS on a stupid forum with NONE.

Jerry Jones and his football decisions >>>>>>>>> Us (because we dont know crap when it boils down)

Jerry has three rings because he made money in the oil business and bought a team that Jimmy built. IF Jerry was making the personnel decisions in those first 5 years with coaches like Switzer, Gailey, Campo or Wade, he would be sitting here right now with zero Super Bowl rings.

Jerry and his football decisions led us to three straight 5-11 seasons.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Jerry has three rings because he made money in the oil business and bought a team that Jimmy built. IF Jerry was making the personnel decisions in those first 5 years with coaches like Switzer, Gailey, Campo or Wade, he would be sitting here right now with zero Super Bowl rings.

Jerry and his football decisions led us to three straight 5-11 seasons.

No offense, but you're letting your blind hatred of Jerry get in the way everything related to him. Jimmy made several bad picks, and it was Jerry who orchestrated the Minnesota trade. Jimmy AND Jerry were great together.

I mean, it's not like Jimmy had any real say in the sense that he desperately wanted the three main stars who are associated with the 3 SBs during that era. Irvin was here before, Aikman was a no brainer, and Emmit fell into his lap when the linebacker he wanted was gone.

 

[zrinkill]

Jerry has three rings because he made money in the oil business and bought a team that Jimmy built. IF Jerry was making the personnel decisions in those first 5 years with coaches like Switzer, Gailey, Campo or Wade, he would be sitting here right now with zero Super Bowl rings.

Jerry and his football decisions led us to three straight 5-11 seasons.

^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^

Jerry had nothing to do with any aspect of the Cowboys between 1989 - 1996

Jimmy Johnson was solely responsible for everything that the franchise did in that span of time.

And since that time ...... Jerry has never hired a single solitary coach that new anything about the game of Football ..... not one.

And until you Homers realize that ..... he will continue to do it.


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[Bach]

No offense, but you're letting your blind hatred of Jerry get in the way everything related to him. Jimmy made several bad picks, and it was Jerry who orchestrated the Minnesota trade. Jimmy AND Jerry were great together.

I mean, it's not like Jimmy had any real say in the sense that he desperately wanted the three main stars who are associated with the 3 SBs during that era. Irvin was here before, Aikman was a no brainer, and Emmit fell into his lap when the linebacker he wanted was gone.

SO these weren't Jerry's decisions either then, right?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

DMN Blog: Jerry Jones talks playcalling

I forgot to mention. IMO Jerry should not be commenting on playcalling. Who is he to comment on it??? I mean, really.

 

[Bach]

Jimmy Johnson was solely responsible for everything that the franchise did in that span of time.

No, not really. Jimmy wasn't solely responsible. He had a great staff that HE hired and we had some great scouts like Ackles and Wooten, etc. Jimmy had a lot of help and input from others.

 

[SultanOfSix]

SO these weren't Jerry's decisions either then, right?

What part of Jerry and Jimmy were great TOGETHER that you don't understand? There are a lot of things that go into creating a SB winner. Luck is one of them. Unfortunately, it doesn't take much to screw things up. It's not like Jimmy won everything DESPITE Jerry.

 

[Bach]

What part of Jerry and Jimmy were great TOGETHER that you don't understand? There are a lot of things that go into creating a SB winner. Luck is one of them. Unfortunately, it doesn't take much to screw things up. It's not like Jimmy won everything DESPITE Jerry.

Outside of hiring his former college roommate, Jerry's contributions were minimal. He's proven the last 15 years his talent evaluation is worse than a guy throwing darts at a board.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Outside of hiring his former college roommate, Jerry's contributions were minimal.

Umm...orchestrating the Minnesota trade was NOT MINIMAL.

 

[Bach]

Umm...orchestrating the Minnesota trade was NOT MINIMAL.

The trade would've meant jack and squat if we didn't come up with good players in the draft with the picks we gained. And we all know who made those picks, and it wasn't Jerry.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

We're debating the wrong issue, in my opinion.

The level of credit Jerry may or may not deserve for the success of the 1990s Dallas Cowboys is completely irrelevant to the franchise's current malaise.

Regardless of whether Jerry was solely or partially responsible for those Super Bowls, he has demonstrated absolutely no ability to assemble a playoff-winning team in the contemporary NFL, hence the 12 year drought.

Past accolades do not guarantee future success or continued employment. Consider, for instance, Tom Landry. He, more than anyone else, was responsible for building the Cowboys into a perennial contender and America's Team. Yet, he wasn't even given the opportunity to go 12 consecutive seasons without a playoff win before he was unceremoniously canned.

 

[SultanOfSix]

The trade would've meant jack and squat if we didn't come up with good players in the draft with the picks we gained. And we all know who made those picks, and it wasn't Jerry.

So, you think Jimmy made them all? Do you think Jimmy didn't rely on the scouts or others? Do you think Jerry just sat there and said, "uh huh, yeah Jimmy, err, umm, lip smack, you um, smack go with what whatever you durn want?"

No offense, but it doesn't seem like you understand anything about management or delegation.

Jerry made atrocious decisions during the late 90s to early 00s, trying to prolong the career of the trios (although Michael Irvin's injury decimated the best SB contender we had post-Jimmy) and bringing Lacewell on board, but he's seemingly turned that part around when he hired Parcells and instilled his scouting and philosophy into the organization. Now, he has to work on getting good coaches because I think that is the problem right now.

 

[Bach]

We're debating the wrong issue, in my opinion.

The level of credit Jerry may or may not deserve for the success of the 1990s Dallas Cowboys is completely irrelevant to the franchise's current malaise.

It's true past success doesn't equate current or future success. But too many want to cling to a past success and attribute it to Jerry as if he can do it again, when in fact, he wasn't primarily responsible for it the first time.

The reason we haven't had any success the last 12 years or so is because the franchise hasn't been run during that time the way it was the first five years of Jerry's ownership.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

It's true past success doesn't equate current or future success. But too many want to cling to a past success and attribute it to Jerry as if he can do it again, when in fact, he wasn't primarily responsible for it the first time.

The reason we haven't had any success the last 12 years or so is because the franchise hasn't been run during that time the way it was the first five years of Jerry's ownership.

I agree to a point.

It was Jerry's animosity towards the prevailing power structure that drove Jimmy away, and then Jerry quickly changed the power structure once Jimmy had departed.

However, even if Jerry was willing to return to such a power structure, there's no guarantee the Cowboys would reach the same level of success. The NFL is constantly changing.

 

[wileedog]

However, even if Jerry was willing to return to such a power structure, there's no guarantee the Cowboys would reach the same level of success. The NFL is constantly changing.

Of course there is no guarantee. But at what point can we concede this current model certainly isn't working? 15 years? 20?

I wasn't happy the day Jerry signed Parcells because I thought it would gaurantee us a Lombardi, but I thought it at least got us a chance.

I have zero faith in Go It Alone Jerry that this team will produce anything different than the first time a great coach walked away from Jerry and he celebrated it.