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Flo may be facing exit
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Cowboys owner/GM Jerry Jones hasn't closed the door on anything. But it sure sounded today like the team and Flozell Adams aren't approaching a contract extension, with Flo due to hit the market on Thursday at 11 p.m.

Complicating matters is the fact that Flo fired his agent, Roosevelt Barnes, last week and replaced him with Jordan Woy.

"We're listening to Flozell and his new agent. That's where we are," Jones said. "It wouldn't be fair for any of us to speculate on what our feelings are."

Feelings are funny thing, though. And Jerry's would be hurt just a little bit if Adams were to bolt.

"Careers change, they evolve and they change," Adams said. "This is one of the toughest things I've dealt with, in general, in 19 years. You get attached, I do, I feel that way. I get personal. Candidly, these are guys that have made quite a contribution and so when you look at them, you see the player they were 10 years ago, and it's hard to be objective like you need to be.

"This is probably one of the disadvantages of the way we've structured it with the Cowboys. You're just there and you're the decision-maker and you don't have any other objective influence pushing on you. So you call on what you should call on, and do what's in your best interest in order to win the ballgame."

But Jerry was adamant about this: At some point, young tackles like James Marten and Pat McQuistan and Doug Free need to be thrown to the wolves. For better or worse, this may be that time.

"One of the dilemmas is how do you see it, and get him on the field and see a Romo?" Jones said. "How do you do that? How do get to see a McQuistan, how do you get to see those guys, and how long do they sit over there, when they may have been able to play better than the people that had been playing?"

The question was rhetorical, of course, And Jerry could only answer it with a shrug of the shoulders.

"You do not (know)," Jones said. "You can get indications in practice situations, you can get indications in preseason games. But the bottom line is most of the time you have to see them in action. They've gotten chances because of injury. We know more about McQuistan than we did at this time last year, know a little bit more about Marten, know a little bit more about Free.

"And that's a part of this decision. You know Flo. You know where you are. One thing we did, obviously, Leonard Davis came in here as what we believed to be heck of a left tackle. He's hard to get around out there. So it's not just young guys out there. That gives you some things to think about. I'm not saying at all that's what you do, but certainly that was a consideration when we signed him."

At this point, there are plenty of consideration for that left tackle spot. Filling it with Adams in 2008 just seems to be less and less likely with each passing day.
 

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I get nervous every time Jerry mentions Bigg and LT in the same sentice.
 

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WoodysGirl;1966257 said:
Flo may be facing exit
3:36 PM Sat, Feb 23, 2008 | Permalink
Albert Breer E-mail News tips

Cowboys owner/GM Jerry Jones hasn't closed the door on anything. But it sure sounded today like the team and Flozell Adams aren't approaching a contract extension, with Flo due to hit the market on Thursday at 11 p.m.

Complicating matters is the fact that Flo fired his agent, Roosevelt Barnes, last week and replaced him with Jordan Woy.

"We're listening to Flozell and his new agent. That's where we are," Jones said. "It wouldn't be fair for any of us to speculate on what our feelings are."

Feelings are funny thing, though. And Jerry's would be hurt just a little bit if Adams were to bolt.

"Careers change, they evolve and they change," Adams said. "This is one of the toughest things I've dealt with, in general, in 19 years. You get attached, I do, I feel that way. I get personal. Candidly, these are guys that have made quite a contribution and so when you look at them, you see the player they were 10 years ago, and it's hard to be objective like you need to be.

"This is probably one of the disadvantages of the way we've structured it with the Cowboys. You're just there and you're the decision-maker and you don't have any other objective influence pushing on you. So you call on what you should call on, and do what's in your best interest in order to win the ballgame."

But Jerry was adamant about this: At some point, young tackles like James Marten and Pat McQuistan and Doug Free need to be thrown to the wolves. For better or worse, this may be that time.

"One of the dilemmas is how do you see it, and get him on the field and see a Romo?" Jones said. "How do you do that? How do get to see a McQuistan, how do you get to see those guys, and how long do they sit over there, when they may have been able to play better than the people that had been playing?"

The question was rhetorical, of course, And Jerry could only answer it with a shrug of the shoulders.

"You do not (know)," Jones said. "You can get indications in practice situations, you can get indications in preseason games. But the bottom line is most of the time you have to see them in action. They've gotten chances because of injury. We know more about McQuistan than we did at this time last year, know a little bit more about Marten, know a little bit more about Free.

"And that's a part of this decision. You know Flo. You know where you are. One thing we did, obviously, Leonard Davis came in here as what we believed to be heck of a left tackle. He's hard to get around out there. So it's not just young guys out there. That gives you some things to think about. I'm not saying at all that's what you do, but certainly that was a consideration when we signed him."

At this point, there are plenty of consideration for that left tackle spot. Filling it with Adams in 2008 just seems to be less and less likely with each passing day.

I think JJ is a great owner in terms of spending the $$$ to try to help the team win. I think he's come a long way since JJ left in terms of being a more savy football guy. But if this is an issue, then he's got no one to blame but himself. In short, don't whine about it....fix it.
 

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Sounds to me like he personally wants Flo back, but realizes that it might not be the best long term move for the franchise.
 

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junk;1966274 said:
Sounds to me like he personally wants Flo back, but realizes that it might not be the best long term move for the franchise.
i agree, but i'm okay with Hudson training the younger guys:bow:
 

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thats how I envisioned jerry responding to flo's situation, yes we all get the feeling that JJ does want Flo back, but it all comes down to how much is he really worth...9 mil ??? don't think so, Flo is one serious injury away from costing him his career and a team a lot of dough, if FLo walks jerry's right, we do have some money and time invested in other LT's its time for them to shine, and for FLO to move on, and I am betting that he will move on, whichever team picks him up I wish them luck, unless it's in the NFC east...
 

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whatever happened to the report that both the cowboys and adams are already in the neighborhood as far as numbers are concerned?
 

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DeepBleu;1966292 said:
whatever happened to the report that both the cowboys and adams are already in the neighborhood as far as numbers are concerned?

That's what I thought.

It appeared the parameters included a 4 year deal, etc.

Who knows . . . . maybe Flo is asking for more than the cap can tolerate without sacrificing other positions . . . . or maybe this is all just postering and something gets hammered out.

I really hope Free/McQ step up and we can leave Bigg at OG.
 

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big dog cowboy;1966268 said:
I get nervous every time Jerry mentions Bigg and LT in the same sentice.

I think that is the fallback plan. If the youngsters cant handle it, Bigg is going to move to LT.

I am assuming McQ would then move to guard?
 

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Beast_from_East;1966312 said:
I think that is the fallback plan. If the youngsters cant handle it, Bigg is going to move to LT.

I am assuming McQ would then move to guard?

Yes, I think there was some speculation that McQ could even challenge Kosier later on. So, the staff must feel that McQ could maybe handle the Guard position in the NFL.

I'm still hoping we reach some sort of deal with Flo, but if not, I guess we're going to have to test out the young guys, like JJ said.
 

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All Jerry is saying about Davis is that if the young guys fail as a LT, he knows he can put Davis out there and at least have a guy that has played the position as a starter in the NFL. Sure it's not Davis' best position, but he is serviceable and he is an insurance policy. The salary cap forces Jerry to make those kind of decisions.

Flo is probably getting reports that he is going to get a HUGE $$ contract offer from the Jets or the Dolphins or someone else, so it will be hard for him to turn that down knowing this is the last contract he will ever sign.
 

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CaptainAmerica;1966318 said:
All Jerry is saying about Davis is that if the young guys fail as a LT, he knows he can put Davis out there and at least have a guy that has played the position as a starter in the NFL. Sure it's not Davis' best position, but he is serviceable and he is an insurance policy. The salary cap forces Jerry to make those kind of decisions.

Flo is probably getting reports that he is going to get a HUGE $$ contract offer from the Jets or the Dolphins or someone else, so it will be hard for him to turn that down knowing this is the last contract he will ever sign.

You're right.

But IMO, Flo's got about 2-3 years left in the league. I don't think he's got any shot at a ring with either the Jets or Miami, for example.

It's sort of like Z Thomas. The guy has made something like $50mm in his career. He wants first and foremost to play for a winner. He wants a legitimate shot at a ring.

I don't know how much Flo has made over the years, but I think quite a bit.

It will be interesting if he takes an extra couple of million and bails, or if he wants to try and win it all. I'm not making a judgement decision on Flo. I'm just saying it will be an interesting decision for him.
 

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On a separate note, the Reskins still made the playoffs with Hoyer (sp?) playing OT, and I think it was his first season in the NFL, if I'm not mistaken. Plus, he was a drafted in the lower rounds I think.

I guess with the time we've already spent on McQ/Free, we're going to have to take an educated guess when these guys are ready. It's not like they are rookies either. We've been able to do some evaluation on them.
 

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Man the dolphins are counting the hrs until he hits the market. It would suck losing flozell to them. I'll wait until Wed before I start to panic.
 

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big dog cowboy;1966268 said:
I get nervous every time Jerry mentions Bigg and LT in the same sentice.

i don't understand it either. he's never shown he can do it. i dont understand why they think he'd suddenly become a different player in dallas.
 

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If Dallas could get solid play out of either McQ or Free as a starting left tackle, it would be incredibly advantageous to Dallas because both are a minimal cap hit and even if they played well in 2008 and got a new contract, it wouldn't be very expensive in the short term. Dallas could then use the money to get other players and/or re-sign quality players or cut players they no longer need.

The counter to this is that quality left tackles don't grow on trees and keeping a QB healthy is paramount in the NFL. Flo is an established quality left tackle.

With that, I see Flozell going elsewhere unless he gets no offers from other teams. Jerry prides himself on being a gambler (although I wish he would take more calculated risks) and this is exactly the type of gamble he likes to make.





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I'm sad and worried about the idea of losing Flo but i'm coming more and more around to the idea that it's just simply going to happen. I just don't think we're going to be able to keep him.
 
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