DMN Blog: NFL admits fault in Jerrytron fiasco *MERGE* Advertisements Update Post #12

[BotchedLobotomy]

Mitsubishi is certainly getting their moneys worth of advertising the last few days.

 

[Venger]

They should rent the bottom of the sign as an advertisement with a bullseye that says "hit this sign, everyone gets a free taco from Taco Bell". "Hit this sign, the punter gets a free steak from Outback Steakhouse".

It could be brilliant...and the only tacky AA ball gimmick in the league.

 

[HoosierCowboy]

This is one of the biggest non-stories in sports

 

[Boyzmamacita]

They can always put the word Mitsubishi at the bottom of video itself. The screen is big enough for a permanent logo, that's for sure.

 

[DallasEast]

Mitsubishi is certainly getting their moneys worth of advertising the last few days.

Quoted For Truth.

 

[DallasEast]

They can always put the word Mitsubishi at the bottom of video itself. The screen is big enough for a permanent logo, that's for sure.

That's true, but it's not really advantageous for Mitsubishi if it were placed in that location. Easily visible sign placement only enhances their corporate image and promotes brand awareness for both the entire stadium audience and those at home.

Placing the sign at the bottom of the videoboard will only be visible to those within it's line of sight. That would be akin to Mitsubishi embossing their brand name underneath the consoles of their televisions. It wouldn't surprise me if they'll be much happier with the signs being relocated to somewhere else within the stadium where it will still be seen by a large number of eyes.

 

[dogberry]

Any cost estimates on moving the sign?

 

[kmd24]

What is so inexact about it?

Simple physics: if a ball is dropped from 90 feet, it takes an easily calcuable time to hit the ground:

t = sqrt(2*90/32) = 2.37 seconds

The number 32 is the acceleration of gravity (actually 32.174 ft/s^2), and this relationship comes from the laws of motion, specifically that

d = (a * t^2) / 2

It's elementary physics.

Now, double that number because the ball has to travel the 90 feet twice, and you will see that any punt that stays in the air for longer than 4.75 seconds has a good chance to hit the videoboard.

Not understanding what "research" needs to be done here, Mr. Goodell.

 

[DallasEast]

What is so inexact about it?

Simple physics: if a ball is dropped from 90 feet, it takes an easily calcuable time to hit the ground:

t = sqrt(2*90/32) = 2.37 seconds

The number 32 is the acceleration of gravity (actually 32.174 ft/s^2), and this relationship comes from the laws of motion, specifically that

d = (a * t^2) / 2

It's elementary physics.

Now, double that number because the ball has to travel the 90 feet twice, and you will see that any punt that stays in the air for longer than 4.75 seconds has a good chance to hit the videoboard.

Not understanding what "research" needs to be done here, Mr. Goodell.

Do these equations factor in the relative distance which the ball will travel? Say, within an ideal environment where wind, etc., does not effect the football's inertia significantly?

 

[YosemiteSam]

A guesstimate?

On a billion dollar project.

$40 million, not billion. The mistake was about the video board, not the entire stadium.

 

[superpunk]

So how high do you think we should put this $40 million video board?

*burps loudly* Eh, about 85 feet.

Sounds good.

 

[YosemiteSam]

What is so inexact about it?

Simple physics: if a ball is dropped from 90 feet, it takes an easily calcuable time to hit the ground:

t = sqrt(2*90/32) = 2.37 seconds

The number 32 is the acceleration of gravity (actually 32.174 ft/s^2), and this relationship comes from the laws of motion, specifically that

d = (a * t^2) / 2

It's elementary physics.

Now, double that number because the ball has to travel the 90 feet twice, and you will see that any punt that stays in the air for longer than 4.75 seconds has a good chance to hit the videoboard.

Not understanding what "research" needs to be done here, Mr. Goodell.

They obviously didn't ask an engineer's opinion otherwise they wouldn't have been so cavalier about it. Then again, it's a video board and not structural.

 

[kmd24]

Do these equations factor in the relative distance which the ball will travel? Say, within an ideal environment where wind, etc., does not effect the football's inertia significantly?

It's an idealized model that should approximate reality with some fidelity. I think it is all you need to determine that it is a distinct possibility that NFL punters will hit the board.

 

[Yeagermeister]

What is so inexact about it?

Simple physics: if a ball is dropped from 90 feet, it takes an easily calcuable time to hit the ground:

t = sqrt(2*90/32) = 2.37 seconds

The number 32 is the acceleration of gravity (actually 32.174 ft/s^2), and this relationship comes from the laws of motion, specifically that

d = (a * t^2) / 2

It's elementary physics.

Now, double that number because the ball has to travel the 90 feet twice, and you will see that any punt that stays in the air for longer than 4.75 seconds has a good chance to hit the videoboard.

Not understanding what "research" needs to be done here, Mr. Goodell.

My head hurts now.....thanks

 

[DallasEast]

It's an idealized model that should approximate reality with some fidelity. I think it is all you need to determine that it is a distinct possibility that NFL punters will hit the board.

Well, that goes without question, but the same could be said that every punter in this league has the leg necessary for hitting the videoboard, but will not do so. I'm no physicist (not even close), so I was curious as to how far would the ball travel based on hang time. Of course, I should have also inquired about relative field position in retrospect to where the punt originated, but it's all good I guess.

 

[true blue]

They should rent the bottom of the sign as an advertisement with a bullseye that says "hit this sign, everyone gets a free taco from Taco Bell". "Hit this sign, the punter gets a free steak from Outback Steakhouse".

It could be brilliant...and the only tacky AA ball gimmick in the league.

lol. that's awesomeness.


How 'bout everytime it's hit you hear a cow moo along the lines of the Bull in the outfield in Bull Durham? heh!

 

[kmd24]

Well, that goes without question, but the same could be said that every punter in this league has the leg necessary for hitting the videoboard, but will not do so. I'm no physicist (not even close), so I was curious as to how far would the ball travel based on hang time. Of course, I should have also inquired about relative field position in retrospect to where the punt originated, but it's all good I guess.

You don't need to know how far the ball travels to determine how high the punt will go. All you need to know is the hang time. So all they would have had to do is look at hang times for the last few years to figure it out.

Since the board extends from one 20-yard line to the other, every punt would be affected.

 

[DallasEast]

You don't need to know how far the ball travels to determine how high the punt will go. All you need to know is the hang time. So all they would have had to do is look at hang times for the last few years to figure it out.

Since the board extends from one 20-yard line to the other, every punt would be affected.

Every punt? Wow.

 

[kmd24]

Every punt? Wow.

What I mean is that every punt would have the potential to hit the board due to the location of the board relative to the hash marks and the fact that you will never have a punt that travels only between the 20 yard line and the closest goal line.