DMN Blog: Ron Rivera on the Cowboys job

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At a morning news conference in Miami, Ron Rivera, the Bears defensive coordinator addressed the media concerning the Cowboys head coaching job.

"My wife called me and said, ‘Hey I heard this.’ I said ‘OK, I haven’t
heard anything.’ This morning I got up, I went on the internet, I did see it. She called me last night at about 4:30 a.m. and I saw it this morning at about 7:00. It’s a little frustrating because you can’t talk to anybody in the same respect. I’m here, my focus is Indianapolis, and that’s the exciting part about it.”


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Let's be real here, Ron Rivera, the Bears excellent defensive coordinator, isn't coming to Dallas to become the defensive coordinator.

Why would he?

He's the defensive coordinator of a Super Bowl-type team in Chicago.
Rivera, as he expressed today in Miami, wants to be a head coach and has expressed frustration with his lack of opportunity of becoming one because his team has gone deep into the playoffs.

The NFL should change the rules regarding assistant coaches. If an assistant coach has a chance to get a better position, he should interview, regardless if his team is in the Super Bowl.

If Rivera had a chance to interview somewhere during the playoffs, he might have a head job now.

I don't want to hear this talk about him getting distracted from his job. Rivera is a professional and he will handle it well. Plus, Lovie Smith, the Bears coach, is defensive minded, so I'm sure he can handle things.


Posted by Calvin Watkins at 11:28 AM (E-mail this entry) | Comments (0)

 

[Wood]

Why would he

Um money and lots of it. Chicago wont pay half of what dallas will for his services as DC. In my book...that shows appreciation. And if Rivera is half as good as many suggest he should be able to turn this defense around (without Lovie oversight) and then make a run at HC with Dallas or somone else.

 

[DipChit]

Um money and lots of it. Chicago wont pay half of what dallas will for his services as DC. In my book...that shows an appreciation.

Yeah but if he aspires to be an HC, taking the DC gig here might hurt his chances unless he can duplicate his success right away.

And theres certainly no guarantee that would happen.

 

[Wood]

I think Jerry would have to overwhelm him with money (probably 2 million a year) - I think chicago pays him less than 500,000. He grew up a Cowboy fan and there is no bigger stage than Dallas. Plus he gets an opportunity to showcase his coaching abilities without the shadow of Lovie Smith (who many say is the real reason for Rivera success).

 

[CATCH17]

Yeah but if he aspires to be an HC, taking the DC gig here might hurt his chances unless he can duplicate his success right away.
And theres certainly no guarantee that would happen.

Word on the street is thats why he wants to come here. So he can prove it in 2 spots.

We have talent on defense so its not like this is a bad place to come.

If the lack of change was as bad as our players and opposing teams players said it was than I think this defense can only get better.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Um money and lots of it. Chicago wont pay half of what dallas will for his services as DC. In my book...that shows appreciation. And if Rivera is half as good as many suggest he should be able to turn this defense around (without Lovie oversight) and then make a run at HC with Dallas or somone else.

And what about the risk involved. He is practically guaranteed a head coaching job next season if he stays with the Bears unless he has the misfortune of taking his team to the Superbowl again while the available positions get filled.

In Dallas, he has no such assurances.

Also, what makes you think we want him as our DC. So let's say we pay him 4-5 million to be a DC. He has success and then leaves for another team a year later. What good did that do us? And do you think Jerry is going to be dumb enough to hire him as a DC, watch him have success and then fire Norv as head coach and promote Rivera to head coach. Yeah....not likely to happen

Rivera will play it safe and remain with Chicago

 

[DipChit]

Word on the street is thats why he wants to come here. So he can prove it in 2 spots.

Well good. If proving that would be anywhere near as important to him as being a HC...

Then ladies and gentlemen lets welcome the new DC of the Dallas Cowboys, Ron Rivera!

 

[Wood]

Ron himself has stated he would accept a lateral move in the right situation. Why would he make such a statement if a HC job was guarenteed to him for next year. Thats the real question.

 

[Wood]

And do you think Jerry is going to be dumb enough to hire him as a DC, watch him have success and then fire Norv as head coach and promote Rivera to head coach. Yeah....not likely to happen

I have never seen a successful organization NOT hire someone because they may become successful and leave. I think Jerry first and foremost wants this defense fixed and then deal with the fall-out of having that success.

 

[DipChit]

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Also, what makes you think we want him as our DC.

Jerry does because for at least the short term he'd have the best of both worlds (in his mind).

A head coach with familiarity in Norv.. plus the grooming aspects.. JG/Romo.

And someone proven to whip the D into shape (who has nothing to do BUT that) rather than intrust that to someone like Bowles. And maybe once the D was whipped into shape in the first place, then he wouldnt feel so bad about Ron bolting if he did.. maybe then turning it over to Bowles wouldn seem like such a gamble.

 

[DizzG]

And what about the risk involved. He is practically guaranteed a head coaching job next season if he stays with the Bears unless he has the misfortune of taking his team to the Superbowl again while the available positions get filled.

In Dallas, he has no such assurances.

Also, what makes you think we want him as our DC. So let's say we pay him 4-5 million to be a DC. He has success and then leaves for another team a year later. What good did that do us? And do you think Jerry is going to be dumb enough to hire him as a DC, watch him have success and then fire Norv as head coach and promote Rivera to head coach. Yeah....not likely to happen

Rivera will play it safe and remain with Chicago

he isnt guaranteed anything by staying with the bears either. He has been passed over before and he certainly wont be paid like one of the top DC's in the league by staying there....and many consider him one of the best

Look...its pretty obvious Jerry has more than just some casual interest by him waiting till after the bowl to talk to someone like Rivera...he even said it himself about talking to one or two guys down in Miami.

I would seriously consider Rivera for head coach but I dont think its a stretch at all that he would also have interest in DC. His contract is up. He isnt making the same as the top DC's. The bears have the rep of being cheap and are fixing to have to open things up to pay Lovie. Coaching in Dallas would give him a much higher profile than the bears. and its not like Dallas doesnt have some good talent to work with

 

[Chuck 54]

Word on the street is thats why he wants to come here. So he can prove it in 2 spots.

We have talent on defense so its not like this is a bad place to come.

If the lack of change was as bad as our players and opposing teams players said it was than I think this defense can only get better.

Exactly...when you're running a defense for a defensive minded HC who designed it, it helps to get out on your own and prove that it's you, not the HC.

Besides, he may have a great defense in Chicago, but he also has a team that has allowed his contract to expire...

As for interviewing, it's my understanding that teams who were interested could have interviewed him during the bye week before his first round of the playoffs...if that's true, they just didn't really want to do it.

 

[rangers71]

Well if the bears thought so highly of him they would have already locked him up for next year. Maybe he takes it as a slap in the face especially since they have said they are letting his contract expire.

 

[conner01]

if he comes here and does a good job he will get the credit as opposed to lovie in chicago.i think it would be a smart move for him. he has always had a great defensive mind over him and this is his chance to be the man, not to mention more money

 

[CATCH17]

Ron himself has stated he would accept a lateral move in the right situation. Why would he make such a statement if a HC job was guarenteed to him for next year. Thats the real question.

Plus we're the only team with a Head Coaching job available.

So its either stay put in Chicago and wait another year or go to Dallas, adopt a pretty talented defense, and get paid a lot more money.

I know what i'd do.

 

[CATCH17]

Well if the bears thought so highly of him they would have already locked him up for next year. Maybe he takes it as a slap in the face especially since they have said they are letting his contract expire.

The Bears wont even give the coach they have right now the money he deserves much less one of his assistants.

I think they said Lovie and the Bears are about 2.3 million dollars apart on their deal they are trying to make right now.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Well if the bears thought so highly of him they would have already locked him up for next year. Maybe he takes it as a slap in the face especially since they have said they are letting his contract expire.

The Bears Haven't Tied up Lovie Smith either. They might end up losing both guys.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

I have never seen a successful organization NOT hire someone because they may become successful and leave. I think Jerry first and foremost wants this defense fixed and then deal with the fall-out of having that success.

Yeah but those organizations would hire them at the appropriate post. They wouldn't hire him with the intent of firing his supervisor the following year.

Let's say Jerry hires him as the DC for 4 million per year. Rivera has success. Jones decides to fire Norv Turner and promote Rivera to head coach. Now, Jerry has to Rivera far more than 4 million when he could have just hired Rivera outright as the head coach for around what he would have to pay him as a DC. From a business stand point it makes no sense. Also, Jerry would have to pay the remaining amount of money on Norv's contract or whoever that head coach is.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

he isnt guaranteed anything by staying with the bears either. He has been passed over before and he certainly wont be paid like one of the top DC's in the league by staying there....and many consider him one of the best.

They were not in the Superbowl before and last year was only his second year as DC. It's not that suprising why he was passed up. He is in a lot more demand this year than last year.

I would seriously consider Rivera for head coach but I dont think its a stretch at all that he would also have interest in DC. His contract is up. He isnt making the same as the top DC's. The bears have the rep of being cheap and are fixing to have to open things up to pay Lovie. Coaching in Dallas would give him a much higher profile than the bears. and its not like Dallas doesnt have some good talent to work with

The Bears are in the Superbowl; how much higher of a profile can you get than that? Our team only has one guy that can pass rush. The bears front 4 can all pass rush. He has a lot more to work with in Chicago than here. I think he is a great coach but I'm not expecting miracles in his first year here. He will need time to establish himself.

Plus there is the issue of pride. Why should he take a DC position when he obviously deserves the head coaching especially over a guy like Norv Turner who has had his chance to be head coach and failed to produce.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Yeah but those organizations would hire them at the appropriate post. They wouldn't hire him with the intent of firing his supervisor the following year.

Let's say Jerry hires him as the DC for 4 million per year. Rivera has success. Jones decides to fire Norv Turner and promote Rivera to head coach. Now, Jerry has to Rivera far more than 4 million when he could have just hired Rivera outright as the head coach for around what he would have to pay him as a DC. From a business stand point it makes no sense. Also, Jerry would have to pay the remaining amount of money on Norv's contract or whoever that head coach is.

I would think that any deal Norv signs would probably be a 2 year thing max with possible option years at the clubs discretion.

I just think Norv is the wrong guy. I would love to see Rivera come here but that's going to be up to Jerry. If Norv comes over, who's going to come to play for him? I don't know of anybody. If Rivera comes over, guys like Tommie Harris, Briggs, Alex Brown, Vasher, Charles Tillman lots of guys who might be coming up on contracts might give us a look see. Money talks, we all know that but all things even, maybe we get the benifit of Rivera coaching those guys.