DMN Blog: Tashard Choice doesn't want to leave Cowboys

[superonyx]

I love the kid but if the coaches especially Wade who had Cromartie for a year (maybe?) feels that Cromartie is a special CB talent then you have to think about the trade seriously.

It is much harder to find a good CB then a good RB. I keep hearing Newman is getting up in age and declining. I love to have another quality CB ready to take Newman spot soon. If you can get a sure thing with Cromartie and do it with your 2nd or 3rd RB , then it's not a bad deal.

The big question is: why is the Chargers wanting to trade their "best" CB for our #2/3 back? is this a straight up trade or they want Choice + draft picks?

Finally someone that realizes realizes the reality of the situation. People get so upset and go over the top in their defense of their chosen player around here. Choice and Ogletree seem to have the biggest following these days.
It isnt a ripping of choice. I love all the cowboys. We all should. But if i am in control of the team and i have a player that i realize is probably going to leave due to a log jam of talent at his position then i would move him if i were offered a young probowl caliber CB in exchange.

 

[superonyx]

The NFL is not a league of "one starter" anymore, its definitely a 2 back league and definitely 2 backs with different skill sets. I understand the game of football, you dont have to talk to me like Im a little kid with your: "cant understand why this pretty simple point is so hard for you to grasp?", "Let me clarify one more time for you", If jerry wants them both to be here, they will be here, its not a case of career back up, how many teams do you now see using a two back system? Probably more than 50% of the league, the game is more physical and backs in general dont hold up as well.
My answer to this situation is simple: Choice is under contract through next year, take some of barbers carries away and utilize him more for short yardage situations and his "closer" role, get the ball in Choices hands another 5 times a game to assess where he is and see if he truly is the back to pair with jones for the long run then draft a back in the 3rd or 4th round next year for special teams and back up-, its pretty simple actually if you werent so busy trying to be slick and condisending in your replys. The bottom line again is: If both backs prove worthy and Jerry wants them, they will both be here and barber will be gone next year.

Again your response help me make the point. You want to give choice another 5 carries a game to figure out if he is the back to play Felix. If you turn down a young probowl player in exchange for Choice then you should already know he is the guy. You dont turn down that kind of trade for a 3rd running back that you still dont know if he is the guy to play with Felix.

 

[Idgit]

Because Cromartie had a down year, was out of place alot of the time last year.

There were rumors last offseason that the Chargers were willing to move him, and people here couldn't believe it b/c they'd spent so much time ruing not taking him in the draft in the first place. They didn't want to waste all that gnashing and rending.

Undernormal circumstances, you take a trade involving a starting CB and a backup RB. In this case, though, it's a flashy dilettante in exchange for a team player with huge heart who's your eventual replacement for Marion Barber. Moving Choice for Cromartie at this point in their respective careers would be a mistake.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

Again your response help me make the point. You want to give choice another 5 carries a game to figure out if he is the back to play Felix. If you turn down a young probowl player in exchange for Choice then you should already know he is the guy. You dont turn down that kind of trade for a 3rd running back that you still dont know if he is the guy to play with Felix.

you are lost and dont understand football.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

Undernormal circumstances, you take a trade involving a starting CB and a backup RB. In this case, though, it's a flashy dilettante in exchange for a team player with huge hears who's your eventual replacement for Marion Barber. Moving Choice for Cromartie at this point in their respective careers would be a mistake.

exactly.

 

[superonyx]

you are lost and dont understand football.

I'd bail out with a weak response if i were you also.

I guess the coaches on this team must not understand football either. Otherwise it would have been choice in the game instead of Felix or barber this year. You are blindly in love with a 3rd running back to a fault.

Felix is the guy who will take carries away from barber this coming season.

Lets just watch the Choice situation play out and see who doesnt know football.

I hope one of your back becomes the best back in the league....doesnt matter which one..... I hope they can all stay here and be happy getting 8 carries per game each for the rest of their careers....... It just not reality. Not enough carries to go around and not enough money either. Something has to give.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

Not a bailout-just tired of arguing with someone who doesnt understand the situation & how it will playout.
Im not blindly in love, I just see talent and like to see it on the field to help the team succeed.
I guess you didnt read any of the other posts in this thread on choice I wonder why you havent addressed any of them??...i guess im the only one(the dumb one) to keep bickering with you about it.
Im done arguing with you...its to a mute point.

 

[superonyx]

Not a bailout-just tired of arguing with someone who doesnt understand the situation & how it will playout.
Im not blindly in love, I just see talent and like to see it on the field to help the team succeed.
I guess you didnt read any of the other posts in this thread on choice I wonder why you havent addressed any of them??...i guess im the only one(the dumb one) to keep bickering with you about it.
Im done arguing with you...its to a mute point.

Huh? I think you mean a "Moot Point".......

 

[btcutter]

One of the problems we have as fans is falling in love with back up players who has shown a little flash.

We hope our coaches see these players every day knows who is valuable and worth keeping for Cowboys future.

We wanted Barber over Jones too. Didn't last very long did it? Barber's weaknesses were exposed over course of the season and it's not long till we drafted another 2 RB.

You HAVE to put some faith into our coaching evaluation. They've done well in keeping Austin, Ratliff and Free. If they believe Choice will take over for Barber and he is SPECIAL then say no to the trade. However, if you believe you can replace Choice with Barber/Jones or Jones/draft pick and you think Cromartie is a special CB who has a place in Dallas' future (starting/replacing Newman/strengthening our secondary) then you pull the trigger.

 

[superonyx]

One of the problems we have as fans is falling in love with back up players who has shown a little flash.

We hope our coaches see these players every day knows who is valuable and worth keeping for Cowboys future.

We wanted Barber over Jones too. Didn't last very long did it? Barber's weaknesses were exposed over course of the season and it's not long till we drafted another 2 RB.

You HAVE to put some faith into our coaching evaluation. They've done well in keeping Austin, Ratliff and Free. If they believe Choice will take over for Barber and he is SPECIAL then say no to the trade. However, if you believe you can replace Choice with Barber/Jones or Jones/draft pick and you think Cromartie is a special CB who has a place in Dallas' future (starting/replacing Newman/strengthening our secondary) then you pull the trigger.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Huh? I think you mean a "Moot Point".......

Did you know what he meant?

I thought so.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

Huh? I think you mean a "Moot Point".......

Oh now youre a spelling teacher?
The spelling of that word was about the extent of your knowledge in this thread.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

somehow i see you bowing down alot.....
call me wrong i guess......lol....

 

[superonyx]

Oh now youre a spelling teacher?
The spelling of that word was about the extent of your knowledge in this thread.

its actually a different word. Moot and mute are not the same words.
It looks like you have a difficult time being wrong.
So it has nothing to do with spelling. You did an excellent job spelling mute.:nana:

 

[superonyx]

Did you know what he meant?

I thought so.

Sure i did. But what fun would that have been?
Now beat it.

 

[isawoj]

Wow! This thread is a bit of an overreaction. Is choice good enough to be our feature back? I know how message board fans love the underdog (ogletree type), but lets be realistic. Choice is at best going to be a number 2 back on this team. He isnt special in any way. He is pretty quick, he is pretty fast, he is pretty productive in a pretty limited role. Could he be a special franchise back? I dont see it. I just cant see choice being mentioned with Chris Johnson and Adrian Peterson.

A question for some of the Choice ballriders out their. If dallas had to trade either Choice or Felix Jones who do you pick to be traded?.....and no not barber..... Jones or Choice?

That isn't what is being debated.

How about this question:

What would be the better 1-2 combo; Jones/MBIII or Jones/TC?

The reason I ask is that I just don't see Garrett utilizing all three and I think if he did, he would be forcing some plays that don't need to be run.

Give me Choice and Jones and go find a 3rd back in free agency.

 

[isawoj]

If we keep him, which I certainly hope that we do, he HAS to be utilized more than he was. Roster spots are precious commodities on game day and it's a disservice to him and the team to have him just standing there on the sidelines.

It definitely is a disservice to Choice, but really, it is a wasted opportunity to turn a little used player into a trade that can fill a need at another position.

If Choice plays as little as he did this season next season, I think the team is really just wasting a roster spot.

 

[isawoj]

Anyone that does not see the quality of running back that TC is, needs to take the blinders off, ... and that includes the Dallas coaching staff.

He led the ACC in rushing not once, but twice, .. in back to back years.

That means that after leading the ACC in rushing one season, and having every team gear their defensive gameplan to stop him the next, he led the ACC in rushing again.

And every time that Dallas has given him any chance at all he has come through in a big way and proved his talent, which is running north and south, running downhill behind his pads. He is an extremely solid NFL RB. His style reminds me of Emmitt. No, I'm not comparing him to the great one, I'm just saying his running style is a lot like Emmitt's.

If you are not sold on Choice, show me where he did not come through for the Cowboys when given a chance.

If he goes to another team I will be extremely disappointed.

And he was without Calvin Johnson the second year he lead the ACC.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

its actually a different word. Moot and mute are not the same words.
It looks like you have a difficult time being wrong.
So it has nothing to do with spelling. You did an excellent job spelling mute.:nana:

It is a different word??? Hmm, thanks, i didnt figure that out by the 2 different spellings. Youve helped me so much today, youre pretty knowledgeable (except when it comes to football i guess.)

 

[WV Cowboy]

Sure i did. But what fun would that have been?

Tells me everything I need to know.

Now beat it.

Oh no, are you kidding me? .. another internet tough guy.