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The rebuilding of Roy Williams

3:30 PM Fri, Aug 08, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Tim MacMahon


Nobody will say it with the cameras and tape recorders rolling, but Roy Williams will not be a Cowboy next season unless he performs significantly better than recent years.


Forget the Pro Bowl appearances, the result of reputation and a weak crop of NFC safeties. Never mind Wade Phillips rattling off last season's tackling stats and the fact that Williams didn't get beat deep, which is evidence simply that the Cowboys schemed well to mask his coverage deficiencies.


It'd be overdramatic to say that Roy hit rock bottom when he was summoned to Valley Ranch for a spring meeting with defensive coordinator Brian Stewart and safeties coach Brett Maxie. But that meeting was certainly a clear sign that something was wrong and Williams needed to change.


One of Dave Campo's most important tasks is steering Williams back to stardom. And Campo likes what he's seen from No. 38 so far, saying Williams has been intense, aggressive and is paying attention to details.


Williams will never be an elite coverage player. The Cowboys don't need him to be, especially with Anthony Henry sliding inside to replace Williams in the substitution packages.


But there's no reason Williams, who hasn't forced a fumble in more than two seasons, shouldn't get back to being a punishing, playmaking presence on first and second downs.
"It's all based on, 'I wanna get it done, and I'm gonna do it,'" Campo said.
 

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Hold on, maybe there are updates. Surely the can't be the end...and no I didn't just call you Shirley.
 

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Listened to Campo on KTCK the other day talk pretty frankly about Roy. He basically said Roy's was a good player right away, but "being a good player prevented him from becoming a great player" because he stop paying attention to details and fundamentals and stopped trying to get better. He's basically starting from scratch with him trying to get him lined up and positioned right (which seems like rookie camp stuff to me). He also said that Roy lost his confidence and the criticism got inside his head.
 

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Pro Bowl safeties don't get taken out during key plays or when the team is driving for a winning touchdown. Pro bowl safties don't have offenses scheme to isolate him on their te like teams have been doing.

Williams will be "back" when I see him playing a lot on passing downs. Otherwise if I am the OC of the other team I run lots of passes on first down in his direction.
 

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InmanRoshi;2181545 said:
Listened to Campo on KTCK the other day talk pretty frankly about Roy. He basically said Roy's was a good player right away, but "being a good player prevented him from becoming a great player" because he stop paying attention to details and fundamentals and stopped trying to get better. He's basically starting from scratch with him trying to get him lined up and positioned right (which seems like rookie camp stuff to me). He also said that Roy lost his confidence and the criticism got inside his head.
Sadly your post is more informative than the original blog entry..

Thanks for the blurb.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2181591 said:
and the agenda continues...

It is so not my agenda. But that people keep saying it is makes me want to push it and joke about it.

You can search my posts, I WANT Roy to do well. I WANT to be wrong about him. The haters with agendas don't.
 

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AbeBeta;2181621 said:
It is so not my agenda. But that people keep saying it is makes me want to push it and joke about it.

You can search my posts, I WANT Roy to do well. I WANT to be wrong about him. The haters with agendas don't.

but I didn't push you into making that comment...
 

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InmanRoshi;2181545 said:
Listened to Campo on KTCK the other day talk pretty frankly about Roy. He basically said Roy's was a good player right away, but "being a good player prevented him from becoming a great player" because he stop paying attention to details and fundamentals and stopped trying to get better. He's basically starting from scratch with him trying to get him lined up and positioned right (which seems like rookie camp stuff to me). He also said that Roy lost his confidence and the criticism got inside his head.

I'm buying this as being pretty close to right on.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2181626 said:
but I didn't push you into making that comment...

Not at all.

But you have to admit, the Roy defense league has been pretty touchy this off-season. So you can't complain when someone baits a hook for 'em.
 

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AbeBeta;2181638 said:
Not at all.

But you have to admit, the Roy defense league has been pretty touchy this off-season. So you can't complain when someone baits a hook for 'em.

I won't, but you have to agree that this was a useless piece produced by the equally useless Tim McMahon, who is quickly establishing himself as a hack journalist, all he's been doing this offseason is ripping off people and using old material, he's reaching back to the Roy/coaches meeting, when they wanted to quiet his talk and comfort him about his role (after all, you want your investment to be as comfortable as possible), which is contrary to McMahon's version of events

a bunch of half-truths and useless conjecture
 

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Bob Sacamano;2181642 said:
I won't, but you have to agree that this was a useless piece produced by the equally useless Tim McMahon, who is quickly establishing himself as a hack journalist, all he's been doing this offseason is ripping off people and using old material, he's reaching back to the Roy/coaches meeting, when they wanted to quiet his talk and comfort him about his role (after all, you want your investment to be as comfortable as possible)

a bunch of half-truths and useless conjecture

Oh yeah, the piece is useless.

I imagine anything we read on Roy will be because he's alienated most of the press. They hate him.

The only good piece I've read on him this year was the Mosley piece -- primarily b/c he got perspectives on Roy from fellow players (although unnamed) and Clancy Pendergrast. People didn't like that article but I felt it was the best piece we've had on the guy - likely b/c it came from someone who isn't going to have to deal with him in the future.
 

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Eh...Tim's not that bad. Kind of a pointless article/post, but whatever.
 

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InmanRoshi;2181545 said:
Listened to Campo on KTCK the other day talk pretty frankly about Roy. He basically said Roy's was a good player right away, but "being a good player prevented him from becoming a great player" because he stop paying attention to details and fundamentals and stopped trying to get better. He's basically starting from scratch with him trying to get him lined up and positioned right (which seems like rookie camp stuff to me). He also said that Roy lost his confidence and the criticism got inside his head.


It doesn't matter which side of the Roy debate you are on because Campo is talking about basic fundamentals, confidence and thin skin.

Roy has a uphill battle and with him already being battle tested (already failing mentally). The mental aspect of the game is going to be hard to overcome.

Jason Garrett:
"Swagger, what is swagger? Romo's got it, Witten's got it and TO's got it. Swagger is confidence. If you don't have it, then there's the door."

Does this also apply to Roy?
 

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mmillman;2181559 said:
Pro Bowl safeties don't get taken out during key plays or when the team is driving for a winning touchdown. Pro bowl safties don't have offenses scheme to isolate him on their te like teams have been doing.

Williams will be "back" when I see him playing a lot on passing downs. Otherwise if I am the OC of the other team I run lots of passes on first down in his direction.
Right on the money!the idea that we will bench him on third down plays only is stupid. teams will attack this guy on first down. then what?the guy is flatout terrible.
 
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