DMN Blog: Time to give up on Pacman and go after Lito Sheppard?

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Time to give up on Pacman?

10:07 AM Tue, Apr 22, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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With this latest story of Pacman Jones being extorted, is it time for the Cowboys to move on and give up their attempt to trade for Jones?

In the beginning, I was OK with this because of the low cost to get a big-time talent. I figured it was worth the risk. The latest just kind of set me back to Jacques Taylor's side of this argument. There's always something with Pacman. If he was being extorted, did he tell Commissioner Goodell or was the NFL caugth off guard? Would this affect reinstatement?

I'm ready to say forget Pacman, go after Lito Sheppard.


The Eagles have made the Cowboy killer available now that they signed Asante Samuel in free agency. Sheppard has had a hard time staying healthy. He's played 16 games just once in his career. But he's only 27 and can make plays.

Would Philly deal him in the division? They have done trades with the Cowboys in the past, allowing them to get back in the first round last year to take Anthony Spencer. Maybe they wouldn't be so reluctant as you think. They know him better than anybody. They know his flaws as much as his skills. Part of the reason Bill Belichick wasn't afraid to send Drew Bledsoe to Buffalo in 2002 is because he knew everything about Bledsoe.

DeAngelo Hall cost Oakland a second round pick this year and a fifth rounder next year.

What would you give up to get Sheppard?

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per John Clayton

Sheppard sweepstakes: Three teams are showing interest in Eagles cornerback Lito Sheppard. The price could come down to a No. 2 pick. The Rams are one of the interested teams, but the Eagles won't deal Sheppard unless they get satisfactory value. Talks were expected to pick up this week and they have.
 

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Why would Philly trade us him?

Yeah they have done trades with us before, but not with a high profile player involved.
 

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I wouldn't mind bring in Sheppard, however there are two sticking points. The compensation with the Eagles and the contract with Sheppard. Either could nix the deal.
 

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ajk23az;2044125 said:
Why would Philly trade us him?

Yeah they have done trades with us before, but not with a high profile player involved.

They pretty much gave us TO, and we didn't even have to give them anything
 

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ajk23az;2044125 said:
Why would Philly trade us him?

Yeah they have done trades with us before, but not with a high profile player involved.
Exactly, there is no way that the Eagles would trade him to us, unless we do something Stupid like offer them a First Rounder.
 

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If he is going to miss a bunch of games every year I am not sure I would want to give up anything for him, especially with a new contract on the horizon.

Newman has to get paid. Rookies make the most sense financially.

Hopefully Allan ball will be good enough to play as the 4th corner.
 

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Whats the real story here? Pacman was paying money or someone tried to extort him?

And if you're going to give up on Pacman, why pay a ton for Lito when you can DRAFT SOMEONE on the cheap.
 

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dargonking999;2044138 said:
They pretty much gave us TO, and we didn't even have to give them anything

they released TO

while everyone thought it was a foregone conclusion he'd come here, he did visit with some other teams...I am pretty sure he went to Denver well before he came here

David
 

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ajk23az;2044125 said:
Why would Philly trade us him?

Yeah they have done trades with us before, but not with a high profile player involved.

It would be hard to imagine a team trading a player like that to a division rival.
 

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dbair1967;2044147 said:
they released TO

while everyone thought it was a foregone conclusion he'd come here, he did visit with some other teams...I am pretty sure he went to Denver well before he came here

David

Didn't he say he wanted to play for dallas before he was released?
 

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Hasn't he had knee problems lately and missed about 1/2 the games the last two years? Unless it's a bargain, no thanks!

We already have our own injury prone CB.
 

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Thomas82;2044154 said:
It would be hard to imagine a team trading a player like that to a division rival.

I agree...and if they did they've probably suckered us

I just cant imagine they'd WANT to trade a probowl CB (even though I think he is somewhat overrated) for no apparent real reason (especially to us)...something else is probably going on behind the scenes

David
 

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dbair1967;2044169 said:
I agree...and if they did they've probably suckered us

I just cant imagine they'd WANT to trade a probowl CB (even though I think he is somewhat overrated) for no apparent real reason (especially to us)...something else is probably going on behind the scenes

David

They may know something we don't about his injuries.
 

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Interesting how Archer omits the terrible realities of his idea.

It would take at least a 2nd rounder from the Cowboys - probably more - to get Sheppard.

They're willing to pay a 5th rounder for Pacman.

It would cost them a huge free agent cornerback contract for Lito Sheppard - that's why the Eagles are moving him.

Pacman Jones can be had for under $2 million a year for the next 3 years.

Jones returns punts as well. Lito Sheppard is hurt for at least 3 games a year.

If the Pacman Jones deal doesn't happen, fine, draft a cornerback at #22.

But don't think about selling the ranch for Lito Sheppard.
 

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I'm not as interested in Lito because you would have to pay a pretty nice draft pick to get him, and then you would have to give him big money.

However, I am about ready to leave this Pacman thing behind. I don't know all of the details or reasons why things happened the way they did, but I just don't think you can trust the guy. I'd just as soon get a corner in the draft and go with it.
 

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Better idea...draft Cason, Jenkins, or Talib at 22 and get another CB in round 3 and see if a veteran like Shawn Springs doesn't come free after June 1.

Tell Pacman to eat some ghosts.
 

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Hostile;2044267 said:
Better idea...draft Cason, Jenkins, or Talib at 22 and get another CB in round 3 and see if a veteran like Shawn Springs doesn't come free after June 1.

Tell Pacman to eat some ghosts.

Agreed, don't give a division rival anything.
 

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JPM;2044363 said:
How exactly would one go about doing this ????
I think you need a lot of quarters first. Luckily he has a lot of folding money in trash bags.
 
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