DMN: Blog: Wade on the Hot Seat

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stasheroo;2134829 said:
One bottom-feeder, maybe. But the Cowboys were better than all of the teams they lost to - save for New England - and they were significantly better than the teams they almost lost to - in Detroit and Buffalo.

I could see a hiccup along the way, but this was a pattern of decline.



Ellis was actually healthy this season, and that makes a big difference. That and Wade's attacking style certainly played to Ellis' strengths, no doubt.

We can debate the 13 Pro Bowlers if you'd like but several of them had made Pro Bowls before Wade came around and two others were first year free agents that Jerry had signed. It's arguable how much influence Wade had on them making the Pro Bowl.



I agree that it was 'pretty good', but I don't know that 'pretty good' is good enough this year.

No matter how you want to spin this team played the best football it has in a long long time. Yes we folded down the end going 2-2 in Dec and losing in the playoffs but what I saw was a big differance from what I had been seeing out of this team. Dallas has addressed some weakness we had last season by beefing up the secondary and addressing the running game. Heck last year we start off with Newman out of the lineup yet won. Once he returned we lose Henry yet we continue to win. We still have some weak links as most teams do but I think Wade has this team moving in the right direction and feel these guys will step up for Wade
 

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Moving into the new stadium puts more pressure on this team (and it's head coach) than usual. Jerry wants enthusiasm and optimism in Dallas surrounding this team heading into 2009. If there's another dud playoff appearance, fans are going to want blood and Wade will likely be the sacrificial lamb to appease the angry mob.
 

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stasheroo;2134812 said:
I wouldn't think so, given that Garrett would be a first-year, rookie head coach - unlike Wade who has had multiple opportunities before.

Built in excuse. My point isn't for why Garrett should get less time but that you can't pull the rug out from someone after a year. If there is no change, then after two then I can understand beginning to worry. But one year is way too soon for the chants.

Also, Wade has a track record of improving his teams status very much with each stop. It ends at playoff victories but that is where our next step is. Maybe that next step will be together (cue hallmark moment).


stasheroo;2134812 said:
Wade exactly did Wade 'put together'?

Again, I am trying to say that Parcells put together a team that Wade used better (imho). But I was agreeing it was what Parcells put together. But Parcells also instilled this habit of not winning. It is Wade's to break, but it has been here. I saw an improvement in this team from everyones attitude to how they showed up on this field. I liked that change.


stasheroo;2134812 said:
Because it's Wade's job to win here, it's not Parcells' job to win here any longer. Parcells' players are still here, but it's Wade's job to ensure that the 'December habits' go away. He obviously failed to accomplish that. This whole 'losing in December' pattern is a real head-scratcher anyway. Nobody can figure out why it happens, and thus far they've been unable to change it.

Failed to accomplish that? It has been one year. Romo failed to win his first playoff game in his first full season. Should we replace him? Oakland, Washington... places like these are the ones that have "one year to prove yourself" attitudes and those orginazations suck. I would rather not be that.


My personal belief is that you don't hire a playoff struggling coach to coach a playoff struggling team. That is my personal belief. But I also believe that you give more than a year and out to any coach you end up hiring.
 

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InmanRoshi;2134800 said:
Well, Jerry Jones said it was the greatest Cowboy team he's had that didn't go to a Superbowl, so evidently he felt the team Wade inherited was pretty good. You'll have to take it up with him. Since he's the guy with the ability to hire and fire coaches, I imagine his opinion is the one that matters most.

Agree on Jerry. But if wade gets fired in the offseason, it's because Jerry thinks there's a better option available and not because Wade wasn't able to get it done. Winning a superbowl isn't easy, and many good coaches fail at it every year.

InmanRoshi;2134800 said:
I would also note that choking in the playoffs is not just a reputation Wade inherited from this team. Wade has never won a playoff game in 6 full seasons as a head coach. He's taken teams to the playoffs four times, and lost in the first round all four times. His teams also have a significantly lower winning% in December and January than they do earlier in a the season. For that reason, Wade is a viewed as a "journeyman" head coach, and those types of coaches don't get nearly the leeway that coaches with playoff skins on the wall do.

Last year was the first time he lost a playoff game when he had the clearly better team. And the team that beat us did go on to win the whole thing, so it's not like they were chumps.

His December won/loss record has already been deconstructed, and it's not all that telling.
 

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Velvet Jones;2134886 said:
Built in excuse. My point isn't for why Garrett should get less time but that you can't pull the rug out from someone after a year. If there is no change, then after two then I can understand beginning to worry. But one year is way too soon for the chants.

Also, Wade has a track record of improving his teams status very much with each stop. It ends at playoff victories but that is where our next step is. Maybe that next step will be together (cue hallmark moment).




Again, I am trying to say that Parcells put together a team that Wade used better (imho). But I was agreeing it was what Parcells put together. But Parcells also instilled this habit of not winning. It is Wade's to break, but it has been here. I saw an improvement in this team from everyones attitude to how they showed up on this field. I liked that change.




Failed to accomplish that? It has been one year. Romo failed to win his first playoff game in his first full season. Should we replace him? Oakland, Washington... places like these are the ones that have "one year to prove yourself" attitudes and those orginazations suck. I would rather not be that.


My personal belief is that you don't hire a playoff struggling coach to coach a playoff struggling team. That is my personal belief. But I also believe that you give more than a year and out to any coach you end up hiring.

No doubt he used them differently. Barber became a bigger part of the offense both in carries and catches this past year than he was in his 1st 2 years. I having nothing but respect for Parcells but this team performed to a level this past year that we have not seen from them in a while
 

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Velvet Jones;2134886 said:
Built in excuse. My point isn't for why Garrett should get less time but that you can't pull the rug out from someone after a year. If there is no change, then after two then I can understand beginning to worry. But one year is way too soon for the chants.

Excuse?

More like fact.

And if and when Garrett were to get the job, unlike Wade, he wouldn't have a 'coach-in-waiting' on his staff.

That's another factor.

One guy is young and just entering his coaching career. The other is nearing the end.

That's also a factor.

Velvet Jones said:
Also, Wade has a track record of improving his teams status very much with each stop. It ends at playoff victories but that is where our next step is. Maybe that next step will be together (cue hallmark moment).

As much of a track record of playoff failure. Hopefully that does change for everyone this year.

Velvet Jones said:
Again, I am trying to say that Parcells put together a team that Wade used better (imho). But I was agreeing it was what Parcells put together. But Parcells also instilled this habit of not winning. It is Wade's to break, but it has been here. I saw an improvement in this team from everyones attitude to how they showed up on this field. I liked that change.

So do I. And I love the increased aggressiveness on both offense and defense as well.

Velvet Jones said:
Failed to accomplish that? It has been one year. Romo failed to win his first playoff game in his first full season. Should we replace him? Oakland, Washington... places like these are the ones that have "one year to prove yourself" attitudes and those orginazations suck. I would rather not be that.

I'm not advocating the move, but explaining how it could happen. And if Jerry had to chosse between losing Garrett or losing Wade, I think he would choose Garrett.

Velvet Jones said:
My personal belief is that you don't hire a playoff struggling coach to coach a playoff struggling team. That is my personal belief. But I also believe that you give more than a year and out to any coach you end up hiring.

He's gotten his one year. Now he needs to move forward or risk being replaced.
 

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redskins1;2133988 said:
oops..now im done..:D

Yo mama is overrated. In a poll here, it was 1 satisfied and 50 not satisfied with yo mama's performance.
 
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