DMN: Blog: Wade on the Hot Seat

[Boysboy]

And McCarthy helped to build the team he's currently coaching too. Wade inherited a talented team that Bill Parcells built. That gets factored in too.

Not quite-McCarthy pretty much took over a team where about 80% of the players were from Mike Sherman. That young D, in particular, was largely picked when Sherman was HC.

Now McCarthy, IMHO, is a better coach than Sherman-but that's a different story.

 

[redskins1]

You're adding nothing but your own biased, misguided opinions troll.

Fade back into obscurity where you and your team belong!

You win,im done..

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

the problem with this statement..."the offense makes this team go"....is why we did not win a playoff game. the NYG won the Super Bowl with defense...

We did not win the playoff game because Romo missed Owens, Hurd and/or Austin dropped a pass, Crayton dropped a few(game winner). The offense is set to win games. We didnt execute... there is a difference.

Even though the Giants defense should get alot of credit for the SB run and win... lets call it for what it is.... Game Winning Drive of the Patriots was executed to WIN THE GAME, the scored against the Giants defense when it counted most. Game over, set, match - Pats win again... except... It was pure luck on the Giants next offensive drive that won them the SB.

if Garret learned from Jimmy/Norv, then he saw we won with defense and running the ball. We emphasized the pass too much last year and we were left hanging when TO got hurt and/or the pass protection failed Romo...this team will not win in December until our defense plays up to it's draft status/dollars invested. Again, Jason did not look so smart in December.

Agreed.... no run game and no dedication to establishing it cost us.... AND it would have been needed to beat the Pats. If we went to SB last year we would have lost.

 

[leeblair]

I have to jump into this thread again,your cowboys are so overrrated..your defense isnt nowhere near as good as you guys think it is,you claim you have so much talent but can't show up at home for a playoff game..your offense is predicated more on romo's ability to avoid a rush to buy more time for your recievers to get open,you have no run game that any team respects..Yall are in for another big letdown..AND i am not trolling im giving you how i see it!!

Whoa there buddy!

Your Commanders played us when we were admitted not playing well. That's what is so upsetting to us- that we played poorly enough that it let a team like yours beat us, and play us close in the other game.

But, it still doesn't take away from the fact that the Commanders are a lower form of life. New England put a spanking on you that you are probably still wearing the mark from. :laugh2:


But, don't take it as a sign of weakness. The difference between the Cowboys and the Commanders is that we can actually analyze our weaknesses, and make them better.

The Commanders just spend large loads of money on over-rated players so they can hope to squeak into the playoffs with an 8-8 record- and you guys think it's a success.


I'm telling you like I see it- Danny boy hasn't learned how to manage his money. At least we can see how our team has been rebuilt over the last 5 years- whereas the Commanders use their big acquisitions for a tax write-off.

 

[Doomsday101]

not at all..we should have beat your team in dallas, and we crushed you at our place..i think were above average team as your cowboys..nothing special!!

Come on Dallas had nothing to play for when we faced the skins and Wash should have beaten us in Dallas give me a break. Evidenly you don't know talent to make these stupid comments about Dallas lack of. Most who cover the NFL sees it but it does not come as a suprise that a troll Commander fan can't see that.

 

[redskins1]

Whoa there buddy!

Your Commanders played us when we were admitted not playing well. That's what is so upsetting to us- that we played poorly enough that it let a team like yours beat us, and play us close in the other game.

But, it still doesn't take away from the fact that the Commanders are a lower form of life. New England put a spanking on you that you are probably still wearing the mark from. :laugh2:


But, don't take it as a sign of weakness. The difference between the Cowboys and the Commanders is that we can actually analyze our weaknesses, and make them better.

The Commanders just spend large loads of money on over-rated players so they can hope to squeak into the playoffs with an 8-8 record- and you guys think it's a success.


I'm telling you like I see it- Danny boy hasn't learned how to manage his money. At least we can see how our team has been rebuilt over the last 5 years- whereas the Commanders use their big acquisitions for a tax write-off.

I respect your opinion,but totally disagree!!

 

[Boysboy]

Agreed.... no run game and no dedication to establishing it cost us.... AND it would have been needed to beat the Pats. If we went to SB last year we would have lost.

:bang2:

Again-we DID establish the run game against the Giants in the playoffs. So ultimately, that was hardly a reason why we lost.

 

[Boysboy]

I respect your opinion,but totally disagree!!

I thought you said you were done.

 

[Stash]

You win,im done..

Well...............bye!

 

[redskins1]

I thought you said you were done.

oops..now im done..

 

[Stash]

oops..now im done..

Newsflash!

You were "done" before you started.

:shatfan:

 

[Hostile]

oops..now im done..

Get your maroon, black and yellow carcas out of this thread.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

As they have to do with the Cowboys, they're entirely relevant. Maybe not fair, but certainly relevant.

Don't confuse the issue with fairness. It's not fair at all. But it's accurate.

And McCarthy helped to build the team he's currently coaching too. Wade inherited a talented team that Bill Parcells built. That gets factored in too.

No, what happened under Aikman's final days and Quincy Carter and Vinny and the rest are not relevant to Wade.

But for the interest of the thread, instead of the words "fair" and "unfair", let's use "smart" and "not smart". Or "sensible and "misguided". Forget fair -- is it smart to fire a guy in his second year if he's taken a team farther than it ever went before? Is it smart to blame a coach for what happened a decade before he arrived? Because that's what we're talking about.

And on the McCarthy example, let's say we go 12-4 and lose in the NFC Championship game. Are you going to give Wade a pass because he helped build a team that in two seasons did far more than Parcells' teams ever did? Somehow I doubt it. I thought it was all about winning, not team building?

 

[leeblair]

I respect your opinion,but totally disagree!!

All in good fun.



But, seriously; you guys are in the right city, and Danny-boy could work with the present administration in the White House.

Neither group knows what they are doing- so they just keep spending money hoping to get lucky!

 

[redskins1]

Get your maroon, black and yellow carcas out of this thread.

hostile,you made me come back!! that is so freaking funny...but stop bringing that up,its not fair..thats my headcoach!! you get it?:

 

[InmanRoshi]

While firing a coach after 2 years would be rather unique, it would fall in line with the rather unique situation Wade stepped into.

Most new head coaches take over bad franchises that are coming off horrible seasons and are rebuilding. Think someone like Wisenhunt taking over the Cardinals, Mike Smith taking over the Falcons, Sparano taking over the Dolphins. These guys didn't take over those jobs because coaching a horrible Falcons team in disarray is their "dream job", they took the job because that's typically the price you have to pay to be a head coach in the NFL, and beggars can't be choosers. Not a lot of head coaching vacancies for winning teams loaded with talent. Those teams don't fire their coaches, and their coaches typically don't want to leave.

Wade was afforded a tremendous luxory taking over a team where most of the heavy lifting had already been done. They already had a playoff caliber team (a bobbled FG snap away from being a winning playoff team), a young Pro Bowl QB groomed and in place, and had a team stacked with talent and depth. That's the equivalent of winning the lottery as far as new head coaches are concerned.

So it would seem rather disingenuous for Wade to say "Hey, thanks for giving me a situation that 95% of new head coaches would kill for, but I want 5 years just like the guy who took over the Cardinals." Norv took over a very similar situation to Wade with the Chargers, and if their team would have been embarassed in the first round of the playoffs last year his name would be #1 on the hot seat this offseason.

 

[Stash]

No, what happened under Aikman's final days and Quincy Carter and Vinny and the rest are not relevant to Wade.

They are if they factor into Jerry Jone's patience - or lack thereof. Again, I'm not saying it's fair, I'm saying it's accurate. I think Jones' patience is wearing thin.

But for the interest of the thread, instead of the words "fair" and "unfair", let's use "smart" and "not smart". Or "sensible and "misguided". Forget fair -- is it smart to fire a guy in his second year if he's taken a team farther than it ever went before? Is it smart to blame a coach for what happened a decade before he arrived? Because that's what we're talking about.

I think that would depend on if the owner feels he had a lot or little to do with those results? Did the team win because of Wade Phillips or in spite of him? Would the team have been as successful with another coach? That's up to the owner to decide.

And on the McCarthy example, let's say we go 12-4 and lose in the NFC Championship game. Are you going to give Wade a pass because he helped build a team that in two seasons did far more than Parcells' teams ever did? Somehow I doubt it. I thought it was all about winning, not team building?

I don't know, did McCarthy build his team in just two seasons? And how much 'building' has Wade done so far? I think most of the talent was here before he arrived. Not sure you can say the same for McCarthy.

On topic, 12-4 and an NFC Championship Game loss might be enough to keep Wade around. But I'd probably put it at 50-50.

 

[Hostile]

hostile,you made me come back!! that is so freaking funny...but stop bringing that up,its not fair..thats my headcoach!! you get it?:

I will never stop bringing that up. I consider it to be pure gold.

But you wouldn't know about gold. Not one of the crayons in your box.

 

[STSINAZ]

unless we get to the superbowl he is gone...bring in the redhead...the better we are the better we can become! wade is too much of a slacker all the way down to his slow talking....

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

:bang2:

Again-we DID establish the run game against the Giants in the playoffs. So ultimately, that was hardly a reason why we lost.

Barber had about 130 yards in that game.... I believe about 100 came in first half.

Its a moot point... we were not a running team even if in your mind we had a good running game for that Giants game. We didnt... not when it counted anyways... IN THE 2nd HALF.

Dont hurt your head.