DMN Blog: Was Jerry Jones serious about moving Roy Williams to LB?

[WoodysGirl]

Was Jerry Jones serious about moving Roy Williams to LB?

9:46 AM Wed, Jan 21, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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Let's hope not. Cross your fingers that Jerry's hint about making Roy Williams a linebacker was just a way to avoid saying No. 31/38's days in Dallas are done.

If Roy Williams has a future as a linebacker, it isn't in a 3-4 scheme. And the Cowboys would be foolish to pay Williams $6.6 million to prove that he can't play linebacker in Wade Phillips' system. If you don't want Williams at strong safety, cut him and create $2.2 million in salary cap room.

Williams can still be a force against the run, but not if he's expected to battle with offensive guards who outweigh him by 100 pounds play after play. It might make sense to convert a strong safety into a nickel/dime linebacker, except the Cowboys tried that for one season and spent the next spring scheming up ways to put Williams on the sideline in those packages.

Maybe Jerry was just joking.



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[Stash]

Maybe Jerry was just joking.

Or maybe he simply doesn't have a clue...

 

[Alexander]

Maybe Jerry was just joking.

If he was, it was a bad one.

 

[dallasfaniac]

So a blog quoting a blog no less. Here's the original quote.

"We always thought he was really, at any time be an impact player up near the line and certainly when you're talking about putting pressure on a team, we've always thought he was capable of doing that"

Which part says that he is being moved to linebacker? Was it because they asked him, are you moving Roy to linebacker? Or was this Watkins reading the tea leaves to find some meaning behind Jerry's words?

 

[superpunk]

Just to play devil's advocate I think Donnie Edwards and Roy are about the same size. They are listed on NFL.com as 13 pounds different but honestly I don't think that's a big deal. I think Roy has shown he can put on the weight.

Maybe he could take over Burnett's role in the nickel if that's what Jerry was getting at.

 

[Aven8]

You know Roy.....since he's been on vacation most of the season he's probably balloned up to around 250-255 lbs! Jerry saw him at the local Krispy Kreme and said, man he could be a LB!

 

[Chocolate Lab]

So a blog quoting a blog no less. Here's the original quote.

"We always thought he was really, at any time be an impact player up near the line and certainly when you're talking about putting pressure on a team, we've always thought he was capable of doing that"

Which part says that he is being moved to linebacker? Was it because they asked him, are you moving Roy to linebacker? Or was this Watkins reading the tea leaves to find some meaning behind Jerry's words?

Exactly what I was thinking.

But this is the kind of crap we get these days from guys like McMahon. One person speculates and then, even if the speculation didn't make much sense, another comments on it as if it's a fact.

If anything, I suspect it's what SP said. They may just be trying to decide if it's worth the money to pay him for that one specialized role.

 

[Iago33]

Listen, guys. I've been thinking about this for years. I think Roy would be perfect as a full-back/H-back. He likes to hit, so he can lead block. He also has decent but not great speed, so he can run wheel-routes and screens. It's perfect!

 

[Yoshimitsu]

What the hell is Jerry doing in moving Roy to LB?
Jerry should not be into the process of changing a players position. The only thing he should be involved in with this matter is if Wade comes to him and tells him about the plan. Jerry should not be a guy in deciding if its good for Roy. He should not be that guy in the room saying "Yes this is a good idea" or "No it isn't a good idea"

Shouldn't Wade be the one saying **** about this.

This is the problem with this team Jerry.

 

[superpunk]

What the hell is Jerry doing in moving Roy to LB?
Jerry should not be into the process of changing a players position. The only thing he should be involved in with this matter is if Wade comes to him and tells him about the plan. Jerry should not be a guy in deciding if its good for Roy. He should not be that guy in the room saying "Yes this is a good idea" or "No it isn't a good idea"

Shouldn't Wade be the one saying **** about this.

This is the problem with this team Jerry.

Oh hai.

Allow me to introduce you to Jerry Jones. You appear to have never met him before.

Looks good in the shower...

 

[dallasfaniac]

Exactly what I was thinking.

But this is the kind of crap we get these days from guys like McMahon. One person speculates and then, even if the speculation didn't make much sense, another comments on it as if it's a fact.

If anything, I suspect it's what SP said. They may just be trying to decide if it's worth the money to pay him for that one specialized role.

No idea who SP is. I didn't post the part just before Jerry's quote from the other article so I'll add it now:

But, Jones hinted that Williams could get a position change. Maybe to linebacker.

So Jerry only hinted at a position change and that position might be linebacker. Which part of Jerry's quote hinted at a position change or was that left out of the article, errr blog? Also, which part hinted that the position would be linebacker? Or was it also left out?

 

[khiladi]

Roy Williams never played with Wade as the defensive coordinator. During his brief stint under the new 3-4, he played with Brain Stewart, who couldn't get the best out of any of his players. The defense was also pretty conservative. It was only with Wade, did James start making a real impact at the LB position, let alone Roy. Wade even hid a lot of the weakness of Keith Davis.As long as Wade is coaching this defense, I would wait to see how Roy actually plays out in his system. I think he could actually be pretty good.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

No idea who SP is. I didn't post the part just before Jerry's quote from the other article so I'll add it now:

That weird dude superpunk above, who posted that Jerry could've been talking about the nickel safety/linebacker role Kevin Burnett played last year.

And I'm kind of with khiladi... If Keith Davis can be hidden that well, I don't see why Roy couldn't be. And who knows, Roy might have a new perspective on things after having to sit out most of the year.

So I think I'd like to have him on the team one more year before we let him go.

 

[Idgit]

So a blog quoting a blog no less. Here's the original quote.

"We always thought he was really, at any time be an impact player up near the line and certainly when you're talking about putting pressure on a team, we've always thought he was capable of doing that"

Which part says that he is being moved to linebacker? Was it because they asked him, are you moving Roy to linebacker? Or was this Watkins reading the tea leaves to find some meaning behind Jerry's words?

Thanks, dallasfaniac. My first reaction was to go look for the quote, so you saved me the work. Shockingly, Jerry doesn't say anything at all about moving Roy to LB. I'm agog that Macmahon would run with something that wasn't really said in order to get attention. By 'agog' I mean 'not the least bit surprised'.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I really think people are ********. The actual quote was listed before and some of the assumptions about the conclusion the writers were coming to were put into serious question. Do people care? Of course not.

Heck a week ago this same writer amde the assumption that because Jones said he was evaluating TO that meant he was not evaluating anyone else. That also was pure stupidity. Did people care? Of course not and a multipage thread about how Jones was incompetent followed.

I really have never had much faith in the critical thinking skills of people in general but this is just about getting rid of the little I have.

Again, see my sig.

 

[Iago33]

I have another solution--let's make Roy live with Owens (aka the Devil) all offseason. That should wake up Roy's passive spirituality. Either Roy will "join the devil's party" or Roy will see demons all over the field and ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK!



[And, no, I'm not being religiously insensitive--I'm being insensitive to Owens. Get it straight.]

 

[dallasfaniac]

There's another article in the Daily Zone by Rick Herrin that says:

He’s a part of our evaluation and assessment. There’s an area that Roy can really excel in and help us, and we’ve got to really evaluate that.

I do not think this is a direct quote, however once again where in there does it say anything about linebacker. It could be talking about stopping the big runs or even special teams play.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

There's another article in the Daily Zone by Rick Herrin that says:

He’s a part of our evaluation and assessment. There’s an area that Roy can really excel in and help us, and we’ve got to really evaluate that.

I do not think this is a direct quote, however once again where in there does it say anything about linebacker. It could be talking about stopping the big runs or even special teams play.

Jerry never said Roy at LB but the answer he did give was to a question about possibly moving Roy to a hybrid SS/LB role on the team.

Then jerry gave his answer about them thinking roy was a better player near the line of scrimmage and so on.

Again he never said at LB but it was an answer someone asked about moving Roy to a hybrid SS/LB role.

So I think that is where this whole thing is confusing. If jerry did not think of him at being a LB he should have just said no to moving him to LB or clarify his position a little more to a question that directly asked about moving roy.

 

[dallasfaniac]

That makes a little more sense but doesn't in a way. Two years ago, Roy was moved from SS to LB on passing downs (this was when the media said Roy was taken off the field) so the SS/LB role would be nothing new.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

That makes a little more sense but doesn't in a way. Two years ago, Roy was moved from SS to LB on passing downs (this was when the media said Roy was taken off the field) so the SS/LB role would be nothing new.

And Jerry saying that they wanted to basically keep him close to the LOS instead of being in coverage is nothing new either.

It is just another reporter asking questions and other reporters making speculations abound from it while not giving the whole question/response.