DMN Blog: Watkins' Stock Report

[speedkilz88]

Eric Bjornson was much better than Fasano, and LaFluer was a lot better than Bjornson. David's problem was that he had an injured back. He had plenty of talent, intelligence, and motivation.

I was about to post the same thing. Lafluer was way better as a blocker than Fasano and he was still a better receiver as well. Dude had back problems from college and it didn't work out because of that. We could post reception totals of these three guys and Fasano would be firmly planted on the bottom.

 

[YosemiteSam]

“Some people are perceived that way,” Phillips said. “If they are kind of laid back, people don’t think they are really into it. I’ve been around people like that, but a lot of them have a lot of desire to do well, and I think he does.

See, laid back maybe, but this guy is upbeat. He isn't a recluse or anything like that. He is a jokester. I call spin.

 

[speedkilz88]

See, laid back maybe, but this guy is upbeat. He isn't a recluse or anything like that. He is a jokester. I call spin.

It may be but they knew he had that tag before they drafted him. So it apparently doesn't bother them.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Eric Bjornson was much better than Fasano, and LaFluer was a lot better than Bjornson. David's problem was that he had an injured back. He had plenty of talent, intelligence, and motivation.

I was about to post the same thing. Lafluer was way better as a blocker than Fasano and he was still a better receiver as well. Dude had back problems from college and it didn't work out because of that. We could post reception totals of these three guys and Fasano would be firmly planted on the bottom.

Bjornson better than Fasano? Lets just say I STRONGLY disagree.

I'm well aware of of the fact that LaFluer was talented, but I'm fully aware that he was a bust straight and simple. This all started because of Bennett, and Bennett is more talented than was LaFluer (I believe anyhow) The question is, does he have the will and the heart to make that talent come to fruition in the NFL? At this point, I'm questioning that.

 

[YosemiteSam]

It may be but they knew he had that tag before they drafted him. So it apparently doesn't bother them.

Rashard Mendenhall had that tag also, and the Cowboys skipped him.

 

[bbgun]

Bennett sure is turning up on a lot of **** lists.

 

[speedkilz88]

Rashard Mendenhall had that tag also, he the Cowboys skipped him.

Mendenhall had the tag that he was soft and didn't give it all until his senior season when handed the starting spot. Bennett's tag is that he has poor body language when being coached and doesn't appear to hustle between snaps/drills. They also had an alternative in Felix Jones in the first round who had no such questions. In the second there wasn't any top WRs left and Bennett was by far the most talented TE left.

 

[AtlCB]

Bjornson better than Fasano? Lets just say I STRONGLY disagree.

I'm well aware of of the fact that LaFluer was talented, but I'm fully aware that he was a bust straight and simple. This all started because of Bennett, and Bennett is more talented than was LaFluer (I believe anyhow) The question is, does he have the will and the heart to make that talent come to fruition in the NFL? At this point, I'm questioning that.

In what way was Fasano better than Bjornson? Bjornson was a much better pass receiver than Fasano. Bjornson wasn't a very good blocker, but neither was Fasano.

As far as talent with Bennett or LaFluer, comparing the talent of both is subjective. LaFluer was clearly a first round talent and would have been a very good player if his back held up. The Cowboys took a risk and got burned, but I don't see how you can say that Fasano was better. Fasano was shipped out, because Tony Curtis was better - not exactly a ringing endorsement for Fasano. How many board members are now crying about us not taking McNeil? He was another very talented player with back problems. San Diego took a chance and it worked out for them. LaFluer was a very good receiver and a very good blocker.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Bennett's tag is that he has poor body language when being coached and doesn't appear to hustle between snaps/drills.

Bennett has a lot of tags from college ... looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Makes more memorable quotes than memorable plays. Never met a microphone or camera he didn't like. I've disliked this guy since he was in high school mugging up for cameras. I hope he loves football half as much as he loves to run his mouth and tell everyone how great he is, because there's a lot of unglamorous dirty work involved in being an NFL tight end. Maybe he'll eventually "get it", but I think he's going to have to be humbled for a year or two first.

 

[speedkilz88]

Eric Bjornson
1995 7 53 7.6
1996 48 388 8.1
1997 47 442 9.4
1998 15 218 14.5
1999 10 131 13.1
2000 20 152 7.6

 

[YosemiteSam]

In what way was Fasano better than Bjornson? Bjornson was a much better pass receiver than Fasano. Bjornson wasn't a very good blocker, but neither was Fasano.

As far as talent with Bennett or LaFluer, comparing the talent of both is subjective. LaFluer was clearly a first round talent and would have been a very good player if his back held up. The Cowboys took a risk and got burned, but I don't see how you can say that Fasano was better. Fasano was shipped out, because Tony Curtis was better - not exactly a ringing endorsement for Fasano. How many board members are now crying about us not taking McNeil? He was another very talented player with back problems. San Diego took a chance and it worked out for them. LaFluer was a very good receiver and a very good blocker.

Let see, he only played six seasons in the NFL. He was never the starter, he was always a backup. When he did start games, it was generally due to injury (LaFluer). The Cowboys let him go because he wasn't a starting caliber TE. While you could say the same about Fasano here, but then again, Fasano was behind Witten and LeFluer isn't even close to what Witten is. Secondly, Fasano could start for several teams and will probably be the starter for the Dolphin this season.

Parcells didn't trade for him because he sucks. So many people like to bash Parcells for his draft picks, but take a look at today's roster. Most of them arrived in the Parcells era.

 

[speedkilz88]

Hey, Witten is protecting Bennett now.

Pro Bowl tight end Jason Witten said Bennett’s body language isn’t an issue with his teammates.

“I think naturally that his demeanor is a little bit, kind of laid back,” Witten said. “But (tight ends coach) John Garrett isn’t giving him much room to breath. (Bennett) understands that. And naturally he understands he’s got to be upbeat.”

With Witten given the day off Sunday by Phillips, Bennett got reps with the first team.
“He’s doing good,” Witten said. “He still has a long way to go as far as his speed and execution. But it was good for him to get in there some.”

 

[lkelly]

Let see, he only played six seasons in the NFL. He was never the starter, he was always a backup. When he did start games, it was generally due to injury (LaFluer). The Cowboys let him go because he wasn't a starting caliber TE. While you could say the same about Fasano here, but then again, Fasano was behind Witten and LeFluer isn't even close to what Witten is. Secondly, Fasano could start for several teams and will probably be the starter for the Dolphin this season.

Parcells didn't trade for him because he sucks. So many people like to bash Parcells for his draft picks, but take a look at today's roster. Most of them arrived in the Parcells era.

He was never the starter but he did start games. I think you have all the bases covered.

Parcells traded for Fasano because the price was a K-mart Special. He can churn that awful roster with little investment. We'll see how much Parcells loves Fasano when he takes a TE in the draft next year.

As for Bennett, sounds like the light will either turn on and he'll get it or he'll be available for a late round pick in a few years.

 

[BruceWayne]

I was thinking this was stock report on Patrick Watkins. Kept waiting to read his status. ha ha

me to :laugh2:

 

[AtlCB]

Let see, he only played six seasons in the NFL. He was never the starter, he was always a backup. When he did start games, it was generally due to injury (LaFluer). The Cowboys let him go because he wasn't a starting caliber TE. While you could say the same about Fasano here, but then again, Fasano was behind Witten and LeFluer isn't even close to what Witten is. Secondly, Fasano could start for several teams and will probably be the starter for the Dolphin this season.

Parcells didn't trade for him because he sucks. So many people like to bash Parcells for his draft picks, but take a look at today's roster. Most of them arrived in the Parcells era.

Really? Do you realize that Bjornson started 10 games his second year in the league and 14 games his third year? In his second year, he had more receptions (48), more yards (388), more touchdowns (3), and more starts (11) than Fasano has combined in his first two years combined (29 receptions, 269 yards, 1 touchdown, 0 starts). Bjornson ranked third among NFC tight ends after his third season. Bjornson started off as a backup to Novacek - not LaFluer. Bjornson started 14 games during LaFluer's rookie season. We can debate why the Cowboys let Bjornson walk. Part of the reason was that he wasn't a very good blocker, and part of the reason was that he couldn't stay healthy. The fact is that he was a much, much better receiver than Fasano ever thought about being in Dallas.

Fasano will not start over David Martin or Justin Peele, and I can't think of a team where he could start!

 

[AtlCB]

He was never the starter but he did start games. I think you have all the bases covered.

Parcells traded for Fasano because the price was a K-mart Special. He can churn that awful roster with little investment. We'll see how much Parcells loves Fasano when he takes a TE in the draft next year.

As for Bennett, sounds like the light will either turn on and he'll get it or he'll be available for a late round pick in a few years.

Bjornson was the starter in 1996 and 1997.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Really? Do you realize that Bjornson started 10 games his second year in the league and 14 games his third year?

LaFluer injuries.

 

[AtlCB]

LaFluer injuries.

That's a neat trick, since LaFluer was playing for LSU during Bjornson's second year in Dallas.

 

[LeonDixson]

Lafluer wasn't terrible. In fact, until his back problems he was a devastating blocker. He didn't have the best hands, but his total TD catches (11) were better than either Doug Cosbie (6) or Billy Joe Dupree (10) after their 3rd year in the league. He probably dropped a few more passes (I don't really know) than they did and his YPC were lower, but he wasn't terrible.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

3. Evan Oglesby. The surprise of the camp. Leads the team in picks and continues to get pass breakups.

wasn't Deion Sanders drooling over him? maybe he's onto something...